Submit an original song by June 21st at 11:59 PM (EDT) that fits the following criteria
Title: Homestretch
Challenge: Polyrhythm
Examples:
“Touch and Go”, The Cars
“Is This Love?”, Bob Marley
“The Great Curve”, Talking Heads
“Stand”, Sly and the Family Stone
“Diamonds on the Soles of Her Shoes”, Paul Simon
“Fake Empire”, The National
“Til the World Ends”, Britney Spears
“The March of the Black Queen”, Queen
(Lots of Jazz, prog rock, Afrobeat, electronica, metal, Zappa...go crazy!)
Final Round: Cover David Bowie's Ch-Ch-Ch-Changes!
Challenge: write a cha cha cha
(Just to make sure it's clear, I'm not dissing the judges here. Thanks again for all your hard work! I'm sure this was just a totally random coincidental thing. I just happened to notice it and thought it was unusual.)
Re: Nur Ein XV Round Six "Homestretch"
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:15 am
by glennny
Okay Judges.
Whomever had glennny on Wednesday wins the pool.
Here we go....
Let's talk about Polymeter vs. Polyrhythm
The challenge is clearly written as "Polyrhythm"
However the first example is "Touch and Go" by the Cars. I would call that an example of Polymeter.
So is poly-meter acceptable for challenge fulfillment?
We considered whether we should go back and proactively clarify “polyrhythm or polymeter” or if it was clear enough as is. I said yesterday I thought we didn’t need to and the examples should be fine:
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....and here we are
So yes. Polymeter is fine too!
Re: Nur Ein XV Round Six "Homestretch"
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:30 am
by frankie big face
Glennny, you beat me to it! Mike and I were just having this very discussion.
Re: Nur Ein XV Round Six "Homestretch"
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:38 am
by mo
Yes, speaking for myself (and I think most of the judges in this case, if not all), I think we prefer to be more inclusive of multiple rhythmic concepts than exclusive, if that will get more interesting songs. So I would say polyrhythms, polymeters, cross-rhythms, have at it.
I now have "I'm A Barbie Girl In A Barbie World" stuck in my head as a mnemonic for 7:4 polyrhythm so anything that will get it out is good with me.
Re: Nur Ein XV Round Six "Homestretch"
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:49 am
by mo
For what it's worth, I had Frankie as the guy who would bring it up first. Frank, you lost me $5
Re: Nur Ein XV Round Six "Homestretch"
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 10:18 am
by frankie big face
Haha. Well, I hadn't listened to the examples yet. However, I do have proof that I said to Mike at 12:01pm that I expected most people would interpret this as polymeter rather than polyrhythm. And at 12:29pm, I said "I was considering asking them to clarify but I figured I'd listen to the examples first." Maybe you can get a couple of bucks back. I also said at 12:09pm "Yeah, this is a pretty pedantic challenge. I'm sure it came from Mo."
Re: Nur Ein XV Round Six "Homestretch"
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:06 am
by mo
I think you guys should hold a betting pool about which challenges came from which judges, I'm super curious now to know what you think.
I'm also curious to know what you all think are good challenges, because I have a theory about this. Possibly for a different thread though.
Re: Nur Ein XV Round Six "Homestretch"
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:09 am
by frankie big face
I think the challenges have mostly been fine. Oftentimes, it's the combo that creates the problem. But as I said to Mike at precisely 11:49am, "Problem is just another word for opportunity, Mike!"
Re: Nur Ein XV Round Six "Homestretch"
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:50 pm
by mo
What I realized last year is the challenge is as good as you make it for yourself. Of course last year Glenn and I went a little overboard anyway, but that's sort of our personalities.
Re: Nur Ein XV Round Six "Homestretch"
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:04 am
by JonPorobil
Upgrading my DAW when I'm further along in the contest than I've ever gotten before may prove to have been a tactical error.
Re: Nur Ein XV Round Six "Homestretch"
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 6:16 am
by BoffoYux
Link to the Round 6 Listening Party. We're going to the finals next!
'Homestretch' is at 9PM Monday, June 22. Preshow should start a bit earlier.