eSnips user changes

king_arthur · Post by **king_arthur** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:34 pm

Hey -

To anybody who is using eSnips to host song files, be aware that they recently made a change in how the site works. In order for visitors to be able to download your songs, you have to explicitly say so. For each song, you have to go into "edit details" and click the box that says it's okay for people to download the song.

I mention this because I am setting up this:

http://www.songfight.net/covers/

...and some of the existing mp3 files are on eSnips, and it won't let me get at them.

I will be posting a request for help in finding missing songs so we can get them hosted on songfight.net. Give me a few more days to finish getting things set up, though. In the meantime, if you have song files on eSnips, you might want to update your song details to allow downloads.

Charles (KA)

j$ · Post by j$ » Sat Jan 12, 2008 1:15 pm

Hi Charles - what does the rubber duck mean? Are you looking for files from those ones? Or are you markin' em as rubbish?

Also, 'Elvis In Space' (MK and Caravan Ray's version of mine) is mis-spelt

Anything you need from me, let me know.

j$

Caravan Ray · Post by **Caravan Ray** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:52 pm

j$ wrote:Hi Charles - what does the rubber duck mean? Are you looking for files from those ones? Or are you markin' em as rubbish?

My guess is that these were the ones that scored ducks (0) in the voting.
http://songfight.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2734

j$ · Post by j$ » Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:17 pm

Except there is no voting on Hxaro, so that can't be it. I'm thinkin' dead link ...

jack · Post by **jack** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:21 pm

both links work. any other ideas?

Billy's Little Trip · Post by **Billy's Little Trip** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:58 pm

It must be zero votes, because if you click on the folder for each with a rubber duck, that person had zero votes, IE: The first one with a rubber duck, Jack shite

Lord of Oats · Post by **Lord of Oats** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 9:13 pm

Clearly, it's a reference to how many votes the original got in the fight it was in. Pretty simple. If I understand correctly, a duck is a game of Cricket in which you score no points, or here, a song that gets no votes. As was explained to me just around when I showed up (emphasis mine):

king_arthur wrote:Something else you may see mentioned around songfight is hxaro! ("schwaro") which is our misappropriation of a term for some sort of African tribal exchange thing. What it has come to mean here is doing a cover version of somebody else's songfight song. Of course, this also requires figuring out a "hosting solution," but hxaro is kinda cool in that these covers are generally not critiqued and the person whose song you covered is generally thrilled to hear somebody else do their song.

You may also see references to "Dux," which is a hxaro cover of a song that received no votes at all in the weekly fight. And then every now and then the Secret Hxaro Santa will come out of hiding and organize a lovefest where a bunch of people cover a particular person's songs, and the covered person gets a special treat, their very own tribute album

I know it's not songwriting, but you can generally be quite creative in your "interpretation" of somebody else's song, and it's a good way to hone those honing skills...

Charles (KA)

Caravan Ray · Post by **Caravan Ray** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:22 am

Yes, you are right. I am fairly certain that is why KA has added the ducks

...but please, this bit just made me cringe in horror:

Lord of Oats wrote:If I understand correctly, a duck is a game of Cricket in which you score no points

NO! NO! NO! - you don't understand correctly!!!!

You don't score "points" in cricket. You score runs dammit!. RUNS!!!
And there has never been a cricket match (excluding the backyard variety) where no runs were scored (the current record for a first-class match was 12 by Northamptonshire (v Gloucestershire) back in 1907).

A "duck" is when a batsman is dismissed without scoring any runs in a particular innings.

Now memorise that and write it out a hundred times before next lesson or I'll see you in my office to bend you over for six of the best.

Lord of Oats · Post by **Lord of Oats** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:00 am

Well, you can't reasonably expect an American to know much about Cricket. Of course, baseball has runs too. And innings. I should have expected as much. Please excuse the hideous oversight on my part. Clearly, I didn't understand correctly, but at least I allowed for that possibility. I suppose that without the whole 'if' clause, this would have been even more embarrassing than it is now. Thank you for the explanation, and you have my sincerest apologies for causing this incident.

Reist · Post by **Reist** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:08 pm

If you want a real sport without runs, watch hockey. The battle of Alberta's on tonight (oilers vs flames), and it'll be intense.

Caravan Ray · Post by **Caravan Ray** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:48 pm

Lord of Oats wrote:Well, you can't reasonably expect an American to know much about Cricket.

Yes, of course you are right.
cough can't expect 'em to know too much about anything as far as I can tell... cough

Lord of Oats · Post by **Lord of Oats** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:05 pm

Caravan Ray wrote:
Lord of Oats wrote:Well, you can't reasonably expect an American to know much about Cricket.
Yes, of course you are right.
cough can't expect 'em to know too much about anything as far as I can tell... cough

...especially when we rely on the American media for our information, which is ruled by such tycoons as your country's Rupert Murdoch.