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by Caravan Ray
Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:26 am
Forum: Politics and Other Crap
Topic: Where would you move to if <not your candidate> wins in November?
Replies: 72
Views: 873

Re: Where would you move to if <not your candidate> wins in November?

Electric cars you say? Well, you've got to get the power from somewhere. Geothermal doesn't work everywhere. Hydroelectric doesn't work everywhere. Solar is nice...when it lasts, but to roll it out at that scale would require covering tons and tons and tons of land with unthinkable amounts of solar...
by Caravan Ray
Sun Sep 20, 2020 12:08 am
Forum: Politics and Other Crap
Topic: Where would you move to if <not your candidate> wins in November?
Replies: 72
Views: 873

Re: Where would you move to if <not your candidate> wins in November?

I fully expect you to respond telling me that "no you're stupid what the fuck is this even I can't oh my god you idiot" , and I'm at the point where I'm convinced that I'm arguing with a brick wall. And that's fine cause obviously you are too. So you're going to reply, get the last word in, insult ...
by Caravan Ray
Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:49 pm
Forum: Politics and Other Crap
Topic: Where would you move to if <not your candidate> wins in November?
Replies: 72
Views: 873

Re: Where would you move to if <not your candidate> wins in November?

I fully expect you to respond telling me that "no you're stupid what the fuck is this even I can't oh my god you idiot" Yes. When you say things like: To dramatically reduce the amount of carbon emissions throughout the world would inherently crash the global economy. That is how most people will r...
by Caravan Ray
Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:27 pm
Forum: Politics and Other Crap
Topic: Where would you move to if <not your candidate> wins in November?
Replies: 72
Views: 873

Re: Where would you move to if <not your candidate> wins in November?

But action on this clearly doesn't start at the government level. It starts at the personal level. And I seriously cannot repeat how completely wrong this statement is. Your government determines energy policy. Your government - like my government - have really bad energy policies This must change ...
by Caravan Ray
Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:00 pm
Forum: Song Fight! Live
Topic: Song Fight! Live(Stream) - September 2020
Replies: 141
Views: 2696

Re: Song Fight! Live(Stream) - September 2020

neutronflow wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:58 pm
Caravan Ray wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:56 pm
Did we ever get live Lichen Throat?
I played a cover of one of Lichen Throat's songs, but otherwise not yet.
Yep. thought so. Lichen Throat is a Russian bot
by Caravan Ray
Sat Sep 19, 2020 10:56 pm
Forum: Song Fight! Live
Topic: Song Fight! Live(Stream) - September 2020
Replies: 141
Views: 2696

Re: Song Fight! Live(Stream) - September 2020

Did we ever get live Lichen Throat?
by Caravan Ray
Sat Sep 19, 2020 9:40 pm
Forum: Politics and Other Crap
Topic: Where would you move to if <not your candidate> wins in November?
Replies: 72
Views: 873

Re: Where would you move to if <not your candidate> wins in November?

But there is. Because renewables aren't always available on demand. That is nonsense. They are. Storage. They are far more dispatchable than coal plants And hydroelectric is only available in some areas. And geothermal is only available in some areas. Yes Nuclear is by far the most reliable non-fos...
by Caravan Ray
Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:53 pm
Forum: Politics and Other Crap
Topic: Where would you move to if <not your candidate> wins in November?
Replies: 72
Views: 873

Re: Where would you move to if <not your candidate> wins in November?

You didn't answer my question. What is stationary energy? From the NZ EPA: "The stationary energy sector includes all fossil fuels (gas and coal) used in electricity generation and in the direct production of industrial heat, as well as geothermal energy. It does not include energy used for transpo...
by Caravan Ray
Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:55 am
Forum: Politics and Other Crap
Topic: Where would you move to if <not your candidate> wins in November?
Replies: 72
Views: 873

Re: Where would you move to if <not your candidate> wins in November?

The global economy is dependent on extremely stupidly high amount of energy inputs, is it not? That's why I followed that by touching on the relative portability and energy density of alternatives. International commerce is primarily driven by cargo planes, freighters, resource extraction, and manu...
by Caravan Ray
Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:33 am
Forum: Politics and Other Crap
Topic: Where would you move to if <not your candidate> wins in November?
Replies: 72
Views: 873

Re: Where would you move to if <not your candidate> wins in November?

sleepysilverdoor wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:17 am
To dramatically reduce the amount of carbon emissions throughout the world would inherently crash the global economy.
This is the sentence you wrote the offended me the most


It is absolute bollocks.
by Caravan Ray
Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:29 am
Forum: Politics and Other Crap
Topic: Where would you move to if <not your candidate> wins in November?
Replies: 72
Views: 873

Re: Where would you move to if <not your candidate> wins in November?

Where am I getting it? About a decade of obsessing over the topic and an understanding of thermodynamics. Explain to me how we can redo our transportation and energ manufacturing industries on solar. I'd love to hear it in terms other than "you're an idiot, where'd you get this garbage" You said: T...
by Caravan Ray
Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:57 am
Forum: Politics and Other Crap
Topic: Where would you move to if <not your candidate> wins in November?
Replies: 72
Views: 873

Re: Where would you move to if <not your candidate> wins in November?

Solar is nice...when it lasts, but to roll it out at that scale would require covering tons and tons and tons of land with unthinkable amounts of solar panels which must be mined and manufactured...and much of those richest mines? In China. Where are you getting this shit from? Seriously? WTF?!?!? ...
by Caravan Ray
Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:40 am
Forum: Politics and Other Crap
Topic: Where would you move to if <not your candidate> wins in November?
Replies: 72
Views: 873

Re: Where would you move to if <not your candidate> wins in November?

That isn't 100% bollocks and to proclaim otherwise is to proclaim something based entirely on faith. Unfortunately, it's an article of faith shared by a lot of people, largely as a result of hundreds of years of endless technological progress *seemingly* able to solve all problems... With as much i...
by Caravan Ray
Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:35 am
Forum: Politics and Other Crap
Topic: Where would you move to if <not your candidate> wins in November?
Replies: 72
Views: 873

Re: Where would you move to if <not your candidate> wins in November?

grumpymike wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:19 pm
Well, I wasn’t going to move, but now the prospect of the next ~46 days of toxic political discourse makes me want to.
It will be fine Mike. Your 250 year old Constitution is working perfectly. Just as the slave owners who wrote it meant it to be.
by Caravan Ray
Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:06 am
Forum: Politics and Other Crap
Topic: Where would you move to if <not your candidate> wins in November?
Replies: 72
Views: 873

Re: Where would you move to if <not your candidate> wins in November?

To dramatically reduce the amount of carbon emissions throughout the world would inherently crash the global economy. There are no renewables that have anywhere near the energy density, flexibility, or reliability provided by fossil fuels. Look into the concept of EROEI "energy return on energy inv...
by Caravan Ray
Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:56 am
Forum: Politics and Other Crap
Topic: Where would you move to if <not your candidate> wins in November?
Replies: 72
Views: 873

Re: Where would you move to if <not your candidate> wins in November?

I'm also a complete doomer who largely picked up aforementioned foraging skills because I don't want to rely so much on industrialized agriculture - an industry extremely threatened by climate change Yep - we probably have a lot in common. The big thing for me is my daughter. Are you a parent? I fi...
by Caravan Ray
Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:35 am
Forum: Politics and Other Crap
Topic: Where would you move to if <not your candidate> wins in November?
Replies: 72
Views: 873

Re: Where would you move to if <not your candidate> wins in November?

To dramatically reduce the amount of carbon emissions throughout the world would inherently crash the global economy. There are no renewables that have anywhere near the energy density, flexibility, or reliability provided by fossil fuels. Look into the concept of EROEI "energy return on energy inv...
by Caravan Ray
Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:29 am
Forum: Politics and Other Crap
Topic: Where would you move to if <not your candidate> wins in November?
Replies: 72
Views: 873

Re: Where would you move to if <not your candidate> wins in November?

sleepysilverdoor wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 6:32 am
Believe me -- I don't need an explanation of climate change and its impacts on daily life.
I apologise. My post was an angry drunk post that was not aimed at you personally. My patronising tone was not helpful.
by Caravan Ray
Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:33 am
Forum: Politics and Other Crap
Topic: Where would you move to if <not your candidate> wins in November?
Replies: 72
Views: 873

Re: Where would you move to if <not your candidate> wins in November?

What does have an impact on my local life is that I can go outside, enjoy a mild climate Your President is a climate change denier. He has withdrawn the USA for the Paris Accord. This should make you very, very angry. If it doesn't - you really need to read a bit more about global warming. I would ...
by Caravan Ray
Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:20 am
Forum: Politics and Other Crap
Topic: Where would you move to if <not your candidate> wins in November?
Replies: 72
Views: 873

Re: Where would you move to if <not your candidate> wins in November?

I don't want to abandon the US, and being a white middle-class guy I hardly suffer personally from its class and racial divides. And that is why you must abandon the USA Roy. You - like me - are privileged white guys who have been the absolute winners of the world in the last century. Good on us. I...