Niv and the Exploration

Discuss the many little competitions/projects that spring up amongst the Song Fight community.
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I think the introduction of multiple fights may have had something to do with increased numbers. A lot of musicians did every title during in that time, so it may be a slightly false positive, so to speak.

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Hmm, that could definitely do it. I always found the idea of doing multiple titles in one week kind of daunting -- seems like trying to do all of them would be a good way to get a lot of kind of half-assed songs. But then again that's just me. I guess our intrepid Niveous will be finding out firsthand whether or not that's the case.
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On the other hand, the multiple titles were a reaction to the individual title fights getting really huge, I thought?
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correct. we just got tired of ppl complaining about listening to all the songs. and of course after a time we decided to take it to the absurd, for the LULZ
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On the other hand, the multiple titles were a reaction to the individual title fights getting really huge, I thought?
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I couldn't resist making a graph of songs per year. Obviously we're nowhere near the peak anymore, but if 2020 continues apace (I multiplied the current 2020 number by 12/7 to get a projection of 555 songs by the end of the year), it will make three straight years of growth and the biggest year in a decade. Go us! (says the guy who hasn't submitted a single song in 2020.)
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sleepysilverdoor wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:39 am
Hmm, that could definitely do it. I always found the idea of doing multiple titles in one week kind of daunting -- seems like trying to do all of them would be a good way to get a lot of kind of half-assed songs. But then again that's just me. I guess our intrepid Niveous will be finding out firsthand whether or not that's the case.
There aren't a lot of half-assed songs. So far in my journey (currently at March 2004 at time of writing), very few people did both fights. You would think there would be some exponential growth in the Trash category with the extra title and sure, there was some new trolls arriving on the scene. Early Wreckdom was particularly inane. All things considered, more titles didn't change the songfight consistency, at least to my ears.
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Fun fact:
There are 3285 artists listed in the archive but only 504 of those have 5 songs or more attached to them.

Of course, there's some funny business with that stat (like it doesn't include songds with features) but it is interesting that there are only about 500 artists at a base level who have crossed that threshold.
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Day 13-14

I put these two days together because yesterday's listening was literally interrupted by construction. I jumped back in today and between both days went through about 270 songs. The craziest thing is all I got through is Feb and some of March 2004. Is this my favorite time in SF. Not really. I'm not a big Josh Woodward fan and a lot of the songs fell into an adult contemporary vein that didn't just out at me. This was a lot of songs that were OKAY.

Oddity: Max the Cat was all over this set of songs. Max the Cat is SF's worst kept secret. He performs under a psuedonym but his voice is so recognizable that you'd be dazed and confused if you thought it was anyone else. If you listen to the Boarding Call/ Rabies/ Danger Bus trio of fights, you'll find songs by Max the Cat, IMAX, and Minimax. They are all Max the Cat. in fact, they are all the same song. You can call it "Boarding Call, This Danger Bus has got rabies". What kind of maniac does that? Max the Cat does.

Another oddity in this set of songs is my greatest SF shame- Blueberry Hassle by Suave Noise Youth. I've done a lot of bad music at SF but that is the only one that I wish could be erased and replaced with a monologue of me saying "Dear friends, I was a 25 year old jerk. I'm sorry."

Here are the GEMS:
  • Back From Brazil by Drink Drank Drunk
  • Moscow, Idaho by Arcati Crisis
  • Moscow, Idaho by sonofsupercar
  • Romantic Cheapskate by Henrietta and the Hostage
  • Romantic Cheapskate by MC Frontalot w/ Badddspellah
  • Save a Pony From the Glue Factory by Johnny Cashpoint
  • Save a Pony From the Glue Factory by Spy Vs. Pie
  • That's Not What I Need by Doctor Worm
  • That's Not What I Need by his name is dan
  • That's Not What I Need by Octothorpe
  • I Want To Get Better by Dylan Nau
  • I Want To Get Better by Nineteen Foot Cactus Kills Gunslinger
  • Deuce by Revel Yth
  • Upcoming Downtime by Leaf 62
  • Upcoming Downtime by State Shirt
  • Lizard Wizard by Pompeii
  • Across the Dusty Plains by Henrietta and the Hostage
  • Danger Bus by Loaded Lobster and the Meat Cleavage Brigade
  • Danger Bus by Pompeii
  • Rabies by Baby in the Corner
  • Boarding Call by c.layne
  • Boarding Call by Sam Tyndall
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Day 15

Today was sexy day. Dinga da Donga got a little sexy. Gettin' All Sweaty got a lot sexy. Lucky Man, Lavender Splendor, She's on My Mind... yep. There was just something about April 2004. It was everyone sharing those hot hot Gmail invites. Remember those? Maybe it wasn't that. What was the top movie? Passion of the... Okay, not that. Blame it on Usher. Everyone was big on Usher then.

Oddity of the day: There is only one choice for this day. "The Puppet's Dream" by Lightning Ear Fart. Who doesn't love two hours of noise in the middle of your fight. Thankfully I remember that one was coming and didn't waste any time on it.

It's an interesting time. Jonathan Mann is still entering as 40 Second Songs. Josh Woodward is still doing that adult contemporary that voters really dug in 2004. There are a lot of Brits like Pompeii and J$ doing good things. Redcar is a big band in the mix. And this set of songs included the debuts of The Hell Yeahs and Loyalty Day. This all will evolve over the next few months. But time is weird in SF. A band's career can be huge and short. Wait until I get up to Deshead. He had 22 SF wins but only fought between Nov 2004 and Feb 2006. Isn't that nuts.

Here are today's GEMS:
  • Nicely Toasted by Abominominous
  • Lavender Splendor by Lonbobby feat. Maiko
  • Zombie Son by The Frontalittle Squad
  • Zombie Son by Jim Tyrrell
  • Zombie Son by Roy Castle
  • Lucky Man by Abominominous
  • Don't Forget to Come to My House on Wednesday by The Idiot Kings
  • Don't Forget to Come to My House on Wednesday by Johnny Cashpoint
  • She's On My Mind by Jim of Seattle
  • She's On My Mind by Josh Woodward
  • Dinga Da Donga by Dreamy Mo and the Commoners
  • The Puppet's Dream by King Arthur
  • The Puppet's Dream by Motor Monkeys
Still enjoying this journey. There is a ton of good music. If anyone wants to a figure out a way to have a Songfight only radio station, I'd happily be your DJ. (Tommy G can handle the morning show, I'll do drive time)
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Niveous wrote:
Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:37 pm
Still enjoying this journey. There is a ton of good music. If anyone wants to a figure out a way to have a Songfight only radio station, I'd happily be your DJ. (Tommy G can handle the morning show, I'll do drive time)
I'm game! I'm looking to do recaps of your Gem songs in the off weeks from the current SongFight soon if you'd like to drop some background in audio clips. I think it'd be a fun show to listen to.
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Day 16

Still knee deep in 2004. Made my way from April to May. Lots of smaller fights. 160+ songs in a month's time. This section included a couple of songs that raised an eyebrow for me. For instance, "A Promise is a Promise" by Pompeii. I used to love that song wholeheartedly. But now it's 2020 and it kinda reeks of things like kink shaming. It feels like when you're watching Revenge of the Nerds again or Porky's or American Pie... gosh sex comedies don't age well. Still love the guitar work on the thing and I still would listen to it a second time but with greater hesitation than I used to. Hmmmm.

Oddity: Another song that hasn't stood the test of time is Eddiebangs with Glenn and Rachel doing a sea shanty about pirating music. That's a thing that happened.

I should take a moment to mention a story from this time. This period sees the creation of Suave Noise Youth. I think we had 4 songs in the span of that month. Suave Noise Youth is an anagram for Niveous Hates You. I was a part of this "record label" with a bunch of Songfighters in it and we were all so angsty about the state of Songfight that we made a supergroup. And we gave ourselves some of the most insane psuedonyms. http://songfight.org/artistpage.php?key ... oise_youth. I'm honestly struggling to remember who was who in this motley crue: MC Menasor, Howard the Human, Bucko, Amateur Drunken Samurai, Threepac Bastard, Skinny Pete, Blondeshell, Tendril Menudo Jr., Dopplegang$ta, DH Hussy, Insane Prophet, Trilobite TK, Excessive Desperado and Heather the Boy Chicken. I know that participants included me, J$, Jon Eric, HInc, Starfinger, Fruedian Slip, His Name is Dan, my sister, my friend Mike, Fishboy Rex, TVIYH and others but I can't recall who had which name other than a few. Can't recall all the punchlines from 14 year old jokes. shrug.

Here are the GEMS:
  • Take a Pill by Glenn Case feat. Eddiebangs
  • Take a Pill by Squirrel Damage
  • Take a Pill by Tonetripper
  • Fight the Sea by Josh Woodward
  • A Very Unlikely Occurrence by The Idiot Kings feat. Jim of Seattle
  • Mission Accomplished by The Idiot Kings
  • Hold This For Me by The Hell Yeahs
  • Hold This For Me by The Idiot Kings
  • Hold This For Me by Sissy Fist
  • There Are So Many Possibilities by Forty Second Songs
  • There Are So Many Possibilities by Puce
  • There Are So Many Possibilities by The Sober Irishman
  • Snooter by Johnny Cashpoint
  • Snooter by Josh Woodward
  • A Promise is a Promise by C Hack
  • A Promise is a Promise by Loyalty Day
  • A Promise is a Promise by Pompeii
  • So Kind Stacey by Pompeii
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So, as of yesterday, I had gone through 2489 songs. That means I'm just about at 20% done with the archive!

Here is where my findings stand:
227 GEM
1583 OKAY
669 TRASH
10 OTHER
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Niveous wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:36 am
So, as of yesterday, I had gone through 2489 songs. That means I'm just about at 20% done with the archive!

Here is where my findings stand:
227 GEM
1583 OKAY
669 TRASH
10 OTHER
~10% gem rate seems awfully generous. Exhibit A:
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Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:50 am
  • There Are So Many Possibilities by The Sober Irishman
I feel you on the archive cringe. I don't think I outright dropped any "cancel"-able lyrics, but there's certainly some stuff of mine in the archive I'd rather forget. Hopefully we grow and get better.
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Yeah I have a couple from way back in the day I deliberately didn't claim during the last gift of music cause nobody needs to hear that...
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