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Re: Song Fight! Live 2014 Live Stream?

Postby roymond » Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:22 pm

fluffy wrote:Ha ha, this might be an interesting wrinkle - my songs are registered with AdRev now, so it's possible (albeit unlikely) that Google might decide that my set is infringing. Wouldn't that be hilarious?

What's your YouTube channel so I can whitelist it in AdRev?

The audio fingerprint won't match your live performance, but maybe your recordings played during the breaks will match if that's what you registered...
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Re: Song Fight! Live 2014 Live Stream?

Postby fluffy » Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:36 pm

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fluffy wrote:Ha ha, this might be an interesting wrinkle - my songs are registered with AdRev now, so it's possible (albeit unlikely) that Google might decide that my set is infringing. Wouldn't that be hilarious?

What's your YouTube channel so I can whitelist it in AdRev?

The audio fingerprint won't match your live performance, but maybe your recordings played during the breaks will match if that's what you registered...

It depends on what kind of fingerprinting they're doing. I know that AdRev gives a LOT of content matches based on tiny fragments and 12-tone analysis and so on, given some of the hits that have turned up on my dashboard (and some of the hits that led me to register in the first place, because of other peoples' registered uses of songs that use some of the same Logic loops I've used).

For example, I got an AdRev hit on a ccMixter remix that just used a sample from one of my songs but doesn't sound at all similar to the original. So I wonder.
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Re: Song Fight! Live 2014 Live Stream?

Postby Generic » Tue Aug 12, 2014 4:58 pm

fluffy wrote:
roymond wrote:
fluffy wrote:Ha ha, this might be an interesting wrinkle - my songs are registered with AdRev now, so it's possible (albeit unlikely) that Google might decide that my set is infringing. Wouldn't that be hilarious?

What's your YouTube channel so I can whitelist it in AdRev?

The audio fingerprint won't match your live performance, but maybe your recordings played during the breaks will match if that's what you registered...

It depends on what kind of fingerprinting they're doing. I know that AdRev gives a LOT of content matches based on tiny fragments and 12-tone analysis and so on, given some of the hits that have turned up on my dashboard (and some of the hits that led me to register in the first place, because of other peoples' registered uses of songs that use some of the same Logic loops I've used).

For example, I got an AdRev hit on a ccMixter remix that just used a sample from one of my songs but doesn't sound at all similar to the original. So I wonder.


One of my Youtube videos is a solo piano cover of "Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner" by Warren Zevon, and BMI found it, issued a copyright claim on it, and slapped ads over it. I didn't use the original recording at all. They can definitely catch performances that differ from the studio recording. It's kind of ridiculous.
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Re: Song Fight! Live 2014 Live Stream?

Postby Generic » Tue Aug 12, 2014 5:27 pm

fluffy wrote:What's your YouTube channel so I can whitelist it in AdRev?


https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdBE1D ... 3p76mcPtiA
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Re: Song Fight! Live 2014 Live Stream?

Postby Generic » Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:58 pm

I set up Google events for the Hangout on Air:

https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/chde ... klqqe3mi8k (night 1)
https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/c3v2 ... 65qv8ofddc (night 2)

You don't need to RSVP, but it's there as a reminder for you, if you use Google Calendar and/or Google+.
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Re: Song Fight! Live 2014 Live Stream?

Postby fluffy » Tue Aug 12, 2014 9:23 pm

Generic wrote:
fluffy wrote:What's your YouTube channel so I can whitelist it in AdRev?


https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdBE1D ... 3p76mcPtiA

Crap, it's only letting me whitelist channels associated with my Google account. Never mind, I'm sure it'll be fine.

[EDIT] Oh, I see, it's using Google's OAuth thing. I could whitelist it from your laptop instead, if you care.

Generic wrote:One of my Youtube videos is a solo piano cover of "Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner" by Warren Zevon, and BMI found it, issued a copyright claim on it, and slapped ads over it. I didn't use the original recording at all. They can definitely catch performances that differ from the studio recording. It's kind of ridiculous.

Yeah, and AdRev finds things based on the 'composition,' too. There's obviously some 12-tone and rhythm analysis going on. This is the one which got a positive hit for "composition:"



That's just the vocal line from No Brakes (Radio Ready version) on top of a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT backing track, and the remixer used pitch adjustment to change the melody to fit the completely different chord progression. And ContentID/AdRev found it the day the video was posted.

(I've also made a whole $0.01 off of it so far! Finally, I'm a professional musician!)
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Re: Song Fight! Live 2014 Live Stream?

Postby roymond » Wed Aug 13, 2014 6:10 am

fluffy wrote:That's just the vocal line from No Brakes (Radio Ready version) on top of a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT backing track, and the remixer used pitch adjustment to change the melody to fit the completely different chord progression. And ContentID/AdRev found it the day the video was posted.

YouTube's fingerprinting survives processing to a surprising degree but the pitch tracking wasn't very good. This sounds way more advanced than when I audited their systems four years ago, which should be expected since it's one of their primary revenue streams and the only way labels would let them host such things.

Plus, that's an awesome track, fluffy.
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Re: Song Fight! Live 2014 Live Stream?

Postby Generic » Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:44 am

I'm streaming Manhattan Glutton's rehearsal in order to test the camera and the board audio. http://youtu.be/JDMwTrV_LJE

Someone please check in and let me know how it looks/sounds.
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Re: Song Fight! Live 2014 Live Stream?

Postby glennny » Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:53 pm

looks pretty good.
I hear vocals, keys and bass okay
drums are really soft, guitar is a little soft. I don't imagine you have much control of that mix.
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Postby ken » Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:24 pm

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Re: Song Fight! Live 2014 Live Stream?

Postby Generic » Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:24 pm

Live stream here: http://youtu.be/2_waiR8anfk

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Re: Song Fight! Live 2014 Live Stream?

Postby jack » Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:02 pm

Nice! I saw Sam a second ago but now someone messed up the camera. :O
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Re: Song Fight! Live 2014 Live Stream?

Postby Generic » Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:06 pm

jack wrote:Nice! I saw Sam a second ago but now someone messed up the camera. :O


By luck, I glanced back at the live stream window just in time to spot the mistake and fix it before Manhattan Glutton started.
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Re: Song Fight! Live 2014 Live Stream?

Postby Generic » Fri Aug 15, 2014 5:29 pm

Had to cut it off before we hit that 3 hour limit. Here's the new stream: http://youtu.be/NWSKT4lFPl0
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Re: Song Fight! Live 2014 Live Stream?

Postby Generic » Sat Aug 16, 2014 3:55 pm

The Night 2 Live stream is here: http://youtu.be/-VjVoJJ6vHo
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Re: Song Fight! Live 2014 Live Stream?

Postby Generic » Sat Aug 16, 2014 6:36 pm

Live fight stream: http://youtu.be/PcGdjpqqk0o
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Re: Song Fight! Live 2014 Live Stream?

Postby Generic » Sat Aug 16, 2014 7:43 pm

That concludes the streaming for the event! Thanks to everyone who tuned in, and congratulations to Manhattan Glutton for winning the live fight!
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