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Nur Ein!

Nur Ein XVI is coming up in May, so start getting prepared. I haven't set up the schedule yet but it will be soon after SpinTunes ends.

I'm currently looking for judges. I'm looking for a very diverse group of judges with some open minds. Judging a music competition is an odd beast and I want a set of judges who can tame it. Send me a direct message or catch me on FB Messager or IG (terroratspacecamp or nivwalks) if you're interested in tackling the challenge.

This isn't the starting gun but Nur Ein is coming very soon.
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Judge #1, reporting for duty!
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Hmmmm. It has been very quiet on this front. Are people still knee deep in SpinTunes?

I'm going to finalize the calendar this week. Still looking for judges.
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I'm not doing SpinTunes, just didn't have anything to say. I don't want to be a judge. I probably won't be able to prevent myself from participating as a contestant in some way, judging from the last 14 years. :lol:
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Near the end of every Nur Ein, there's always some drama and grousing from the judging panel about how it's a thankless job... And I sympathize with that. But may I offer a counterpoint?

I find judging to be genuinely rewarding and fulfilling. It's educational to listen to a large group of songs, most of which don't sound like anything I ever would have come up with, and try to tease out the creative process, articulate what's working about each one for me and what's not working, and offer suggestions. On top of that, I think that judging for two years in a row (which was a decision that I made after accepting that I'd never win one of these myself) actually made me a better songwriter and recording artist. Plus, you get to come up with all the titles and challenges.

I won't sugar coat it and say it's all fun all the time. Rounds 0 and 1 are a lot of work. Ranking things involves making a lot of hard decisions. And the people you're judging often don't take that judgment lying down. But for me at least, the positives outweigh the negatives. So let's see some volunteers!
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Schedule (likely not a problem) and health (incredibly dodgy) permitting, I'm in. NUR EIN (do we still do that?)!!!
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Looking forward to another fun Nur Ein!

Once the schedule is set, I'll make the Listening Party links.

I'm betting BYD will be in, and as usual, out in a few weeks.
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It looks like the old timers for their 11th Nur Ein are just Caravan Ray, Paco del Stinko, and BYD.

When did we get that distinction of most years in this thing? Here's to a great 16!
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Coming off of judging spintunes, I will not be volunteering as tribute, but you can expect I’ll be competing, likely with the rest of mandibles in tow
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BoffoYux wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 2:24 pm
It looks like the old timers for their 11th Nur Ein are just Caravan Ray, Paco del Stinko, and BYD.

When did we get that distinction of most years in this thing? Here's to a great 16!
If this page is where you're getting your info, FYI it hasn't been updated in a while with recent data about folks who've entered under multiple names: https://nure.in/artists.html

Then there are people who've entered in various different collaborations too (like members of BSS/Tiny Robots/TWSA/Thanks Glenny/etc. and Glenn Case solo vs in Agony Sauce et. etc.).

So, it's complicated.
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If folks want to list all the ways they've been Nur Ein participants I could work on an update to that page to get all that info in there.
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I'll be posted up the new schedule tomorrow. I wrote up a whole post and then screwed up and it all went poof and now I have a headache.

But Nur Ein looms on the horizon, in less than 2 weeks.
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Lunkhead wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 4:32 pm

If this page is where you're getting your info, FYI it hasn't been updated in a while with recent data about folks who've entered under multiple names: https://nure.in/artists.html

Then there are people who've entered in various different collaborations too (like members of BSS/Tiny Robots/TWSA/Thanks Glenny/etc. and Glenn Case solo vs in Agony Sauce et. etc.).

So, it's complicated.
That was the page. I saw some bands were combined, and it’s also complicated with some folks in multiple bands, sometimes in the same year.

I’m just shocked it’s been so many years for us. But I’d love to see the data on it for Nur Ein and SpinTunes.

I used to use your SomeSongs database to generate data for the SpinTunes bands while it was online - a great tool. I wish more people used it.
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It's been a long time, so many Nur Eins. My back of the napkin calculation leads me to believe that Glennny has been the most Nur Ein-ing-est of all, having entered many times, solo and in many bands, followed probably by Ken.
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Glennny’s Nur Eins:
NE1- why is nobody in the regular fight? What’s going on Ken? (0 songs)
NE2- Thank Glennny for the Frisbee- out on the No guitars round, Round 4 (Duh) (5 songs)
NE3- Worldly Self Assurance- We Won! (8 songs, but I’m not on one)
NE4- I judged.
NE5- Berkeley Social Scene- Runner up to Ben Krieger (8 songs)
NE6- Worldly Self Assurance- Runner up to Paco del Stinko (8 songs)
NE7- Worldly Self Assurance- Out in Round 6 (7 songs)
NE8- Cavedwellers- Out in Round 6 (I still don’t know what “epic” means) (7 songs)
NE9- Cavedwellers- Out Round 4 (5 songs)
NE10- Cavedwellers- Runner Up to Nick Soma (8 songs)
NE11- Cavedwellers-Out Round 3 (+r4 shadow), Berkeley Social Scene out Round 6 (12 songs)
NE12- Cavedwellers out round 4, BSS out round 5 (11 songs)
NE13-Cavedwellers out round 4, BSS out round 2, Glennny Shadow Round 6 (9 songs)
NE14- Faster Jackalope out round 4, BSS out round 5, Kraken Lives Shadow round 7 (12 songs)
NE15- BSS out round 3, Kraken Lives dead last in Round Zero, Cavedwellers runner up to The artist formerly known as Jon Eric (13 songs)

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Late to the Nur Ein party, but:

NE13: Vom Vorton - runner up to Merisan (8 songs)
NE14: Vowl Sounds (winners!) + one Vom shadow (9 songs)
NE15: Judged, plus seven Vom shadows (7 songs)
NE16: So very tired, who knows?
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Caravan Ray’s Nur Eins:
NE1- Tex Beaumont and the Dirty Hearts - 4 songs
NE2- Tex Beaumont and the Dirty Hearts - 6 song
NE3- Tex Beaumont and the Dirty Hearts - 4 song
NE4- Tex Beaumont and the Dirty Hearts - 3 songs (retired - moved to NZ mid Nur Ein)
NE5- Sid Denison and the Harpooners - 5 songs
NE6- JUDGE
NE7- Genevieve Johnson and the Chiefs - 6 songs
NE8- The Tydon Docks - 6 songs
NE9- The Tydon Docks - WINNER - 8 songs
NE10- JUDGE
NE11- Strangely Brown - 5 songs
NE12- strangelove - 7 songs
NE13- Owl Chemist (with my mate Paul) - 7 songs
NE14- Mousehole - (foolish attempt at recording while on a bicycle tour in the south of France) - 2 songs
NE15- Nuke Skyblaster Reporting For Duty!!! - 3 songs
NE16 - .....bring it

71 songs total.
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glennny wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:07 pm
Glennny’s Nur Eins:
NE1- why is nobody in the regular fight? What’s going on Ken? (0 songs)
Wait...does this mean that I beat glennnny as being the only person in EVERY nur ein? (though - from memory - surely Sam and Ken were also in every Nur Ein with me?)
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Caravan Ray wrote:
Wed Apr 28, 2021 3:31 am
NE4- Tex Beaumont and the Dirty Hearts - 3 songs (retired - moved to NZ mid Nur Ein)
NE5- Sid Denison and the Harpooners - 5 songs
And for those who don't know this story - I was just reminded of it:

I have never liked the name "Caravan Ray".

It came from when I discovered Songfight. I was an alpaca farmer. My farm was called "Cavanreagh". Because my wife (at the time)'s father came from Cavanreagh in Northern Ireland. When I had to think up a name for my first Songfight song - I panicked...."yeah.."Caravan Ray" sound fine - a bit like "Boxcar Willie" - Ill change it later....

and then I heard of the "porn star name" thing. First Pet. Street you grew up on. I grew up on Beaumont Street. My first pet was Tex - a cat with a weird permanent damp patch....So...Tex Beaumont i wanted to become!!! Just around the time that moved from complete crap at recording to..whatever comes after that. And then Nur Ein started - and I used that name.

I tried.

And then I started getting nasty emails from a Tex Beaumont of Beaumont, Texas - telling me to fuck off and stop using his name. It wasn't actually his name either - but he didn't accept my porn star defence. Anyway....that little event led to think - lets just stay as Caravan Ray -

Anyway - Caravan Ray has never been in Nur Ein. That is the reason.
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Lunkhead wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:12 pm
It's been a long time, so many Nur Eins. My back of the napkin calculation leads me to believe that Glennny has been the most Nur Ein-ing-est of all, having entered many times, solo and in many bands, followed probably by Ken.
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Caravan Ray wrote:
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Wait...does this mean that I beat glennnny as being the only person in EVERY nur ein? (though - from memory - surely Sam and Ken were also in every Nur Ein with me?)
I guess it depends on how you count. You were a judge in Nur Ein X. :geek:
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I didn't participate at all in Nur Ein I. I think Ken's participated in every one, judging in Nur Ein II and I think he played drums for TWSA in Nur Ein VI? Actually I had forgotten about that before in my rough estimates so maybe with that Ken is actually the most Nur-Ein-ing-est, sorry glennny! :P
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