Nur Ein VIII Round Two "I Don't Want An Answer To That"

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Caravan Ray wrote:by Nur Ein time it was: Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 11:23 pm

8 minutes before the deadline!!!
Actually, the default SF board time is three hours behind real-world time. Thus, 12:23 am, or 22 minutes after the deadline.

Just like in each of the previous rounds, the songs have been posted in that thread shortly after the deadline.

(Disregarding the fact that 11:23 pm would have been 38 minutes before the deadline, not 8.)
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j$ wrote:Even there, (Don't get me started on the myriad ways L&R failed to live up to their promise).

The only acceptable use of flute in rock is, ironically, here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWubhw8SoBE I have never really recovered from being a teenage Tull head. The British Alice Cooper, anyone?
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They didn't
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Caravan Ray wrote:They didn't
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I think you mean ...

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Nur Ein 8 Round 2 reviews:

Balance Lost: Charming little tune. One of my favorite choruses of the round. All around solid tune.

Chokehold Princess: A nice mix of his experimental sounds while still giving the song some heart. One of my favorite songs from the round.

Jon Eric: His voice definitely has a threshold that he needs to be aware of. The chorus with the “I-I-I-I don’t want an answer to that” and the high note in the bridge both pushed that threshold to negative results.

Ross Durand: It works very well in some places but there is the occasional lyric took me out of the song, like the TeBow reference. But the song is still pretty fun and I think with some reworking and polishing this could be a keeper in the Ross Durand library.

Cavedwellers: Tull…

Just kidding Cavedwellers. Best handling of the challenge with that phenomenal chorus. The flute and guitar solos were both very well done. One of the top 3 songs of the round.

Dani House: I kinda dug the weirdness in the atmosphere of this song but this song just needed a bit more of a punch and some more variety.

Skypup: Death machine concept is a good one. The execution is not great though as I’m still not a fan of the Dani Faith gargling glass vocals and they served no purpose here. The joke took too long to get to the punchline which lacked punch. Experimentation in music has a high risk factor, this time it didn’t pay off.

Merisan: My favorite of the round. The challenge is well handled. The harmonies are very strong. Very nice percussion. A definite keeper in my collection.

Frankie Big Face: After I stopped comparing this song to Spy vs Pie’s “Save A Pony…”, I was able to take this for what it is. It’s a cute little tune. I can’t stand the fake sax but I like the vocals and quirkiness of the song to put it in the top echelon of this round.

IV: Is it bad to just be safe? This song didn’t have a super catchy chorus or any standout performance to put it in my higher echelon. It didn’t have any big errors to land it in the bottom. It’s just there, being an okay little song, safe in the middle of the pack, coasting to the next round.

DJ Ranger Den: The handling of the challenge was quite thin in this song which made me nerf its score. Nice vocals and I dig the sparse arrangement, but this song doesn’t really go anywhere. I wish this had some kind of crescendo.

Tydon Docks: Punchy and energetic but not the most catchy song to come out of the Caravan Ray song machine. I think the song gets so much better when it stops repeating “This week, we’ll see”.

Manhattan Glutton: I like the guitars in this a lot. This song is very well put together. The conversational aspect of the song works, even if it’s just telling what a pencil is made of. Toe tapping and quite enjoyable. Deserving of its win.

Carlo Bruno Jr.: The challenge wasn’t handled very well. Still, I enjoyed this a lot. I’m becoming a fan of Carlo’s vocals. I think this song will continue to grow on me as I continue listening to this.

WreckdoM: Great handling of the challenge especially with the ABCD Puppies chant. Like you said, “It’s so good”. Rocking, random and funny. “Bear bought a pair of denim pants”. Wonderful.

PD Stinko: There are a lot of Songfight titles in here. Which one is the meaningful one? All the references just go by in phantasmagoria. Other than that, the song is okay. Not my fave but I’ve got no hate for it either. The middle of the pack.

Governing Dynamics: I like the opening. It reminds me of “Angels” by the Tea Party in some way (and I love that song). I like the verse so much more than the chorus. The chorus has little going for it. It’s not catchy or well performed.

Boffo Yux Dudes: Daggers covered in slime, huh. Beyond that odd lyrical choice, this just didn’t do much for me. This was actually a moment where this song could of used some Boffo Yux humor or many some seriousness or something. It just needs some flavor.

Tubba Gutz: Strong first verse. Weak second verse. Never mention Pauly Shore. A great story. Wish there was more to the song as it disappears as quick as it arrives.

Ken Mahru: The biggest problem with this how much the verse drifts into the chorus without any real shift. It makes for a verse bland chorus and thus a kind of boring forgettable song.

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Ok, it's time to post my reviews.

BL - I like the experimentation with the percussion. The rap and the bass line kicking in are really cool. The chorus is appreciated but feels like it could use a bit more. Did you slip in a little bit of the bass line from a WSA song here?

Boffo - Catchy hook "I don't want an answer to that". Some interesting stuff going on musically here, and I like that. I'm not a huge fan of some of the fast paced lyrical delivery but I think it works for what you're doing.

Carlo - I like how you don't do two measures of intro like every other song this week. You're always doing interesting things, and your choruses remind me of Soundgarden a bit. The verse doesn't do a whole lot for me - it's a bit long and lumbering.

Cavedwellers - I can't take the flute seriously. There's a lot of talent here. Really, really nice vocals and harmonies. The music is... as tends to be... a little too much going on for my dumb brain to process.

Chokehold - Nice little G&G diddy. Good singing and good hook "all of the above".

Dani - When something starts with that drum beat I know I'm in for something good. The music reminds me a little of Aphex Twin, strangely enough. Good luck in your travels.

DJ - Very pretty piano. Love your voice coming in. Some harmonies I like, like the birds verse; some harmonies could do without "strictly speaking". I can't decide whether I like the stripped down feel or want drums, but it's a keeper.

Frankie - Love the lyrics. Fantastic lyrics. Good, simple G&G diddy. The little instrumental touches are special, but I think the saxophone is a bit too much.

Governing Dynamics - The 8th note bass line is on the cliche side, but I like your tone. Some of your guitars seem out of tune. Lots of promise from you going forward.

Inflatable - The waltz was last week! I like the chord progression and the bass. Some of the word phrasing is weird. The chorus melody is not nearly as interesting as the verse melody.

Jon - Woahhhhhhh this tempo is quite upbeat. Someone mentioned musical last week, but this definitely feels musical. And there are some elements of piano man. One of the things I like about your music is the conviction you bring to your singing and there's plenty of that here. Good stuff, and tragic to see you go.

Ken - I like the part where you cut the first phrase of the chorus to 12 beats. Could do without the intro to both verses. Nice harmonies.

Merisan - Ahhhhh the production on this is so stereo-y, it's great atmosphere. I love how you come in with the harmonies right away. You both sound fantastic.

Paco - It really clicks with me after the first chorus. The verse itself is a little intimidating, but the riff is pretty cool and makes a good contrast to the bridge and choruses.

Ross - The riff is a bit on the cliche side, as are the lyrics. I think you did a good job, though.

Sky Pup - Your schtick is starting to grow on me - you're really getting that screamy voice down. I think with some more honing you can really pull off the whole package. Though I'm not sure what the motivation would be for doing so. Sad to see you go, as you brought a special variety to the contest.

Tubba Gutz - This reminds me of Bright Eyes. Which is a good thing. The instrumentation doesn't convey the urgency of your vocals. I really like how the ending line ties it all together.

Tydon Docks - Sounds very familiar to some 80s song. I like the shouting vocals and ooohs. The bridge is really cool. By the end of the song I'm pretty done with the chorus.

WreckdoM - I still laugh listening to this. It's so fantastic in its absurdity. I am super excited to see you perform live in Austin.
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By the way, you may have noticed that I neglected to post any reviews for this round. I know this sort of breaks the traditional convention of judges posting reviews of the songs, and for that perceived violation, I apologize.

However, it has been brought to my attention (by a party who shall remain nameless) that some people may have differing opinions on how a "reasonable person" might feel about one song or another, or about which songs might or might not be "absolutely atrocious" -- which has led me to conclude it isn't really fair for me to share my comments with all of you, when none of you have specifically asked me to do so.

If any of the competitors would be sincerely interested in my thoughts and opinions about your songs, please feel free to indicate such to me privately and I will be glad to comply. Please bear in mind, however, that there is a chance I might have a "nitpick ... with a tiny part of the song", and that my personal opinion might vary significantly from your own.
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So one person disagreed with your reviews, and now if we want one - with an accompanying disclaimer, no less - we have to go out of our way for it? I guess I'll just say, "no thank you."
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I don't care about my own reviews.

But I do enjoy reading about how crap other people are.
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Tubba Gutz wrote:So one person disagreed with your reviews ...
Well, without going into specifics, one person really went out of his/her way to vehemently disagree with my opinion, claiming that no "reasonable person" would have held such an opinion, based on the notion that (his/her words, NOT mine) there were so many "absolutely atrocious songs" among his/her competitors.

That part alone was ridiculous, and I would have just laughed and went about my business, but this person also made it clear that he/she did not wish to receive any more feedback from me. It is out of respect for these wishes that I have neglected to give out any unsolicited feedback -- lest I risk inadvertently offending anyone else.

I assumed that the rambling opinions of one person are not so significant that anyone would really miss reading them -- but in case this assumption would be wrong in any particular case, I have left the option open for anyone who truly cares.
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It seems to me that the act of submitting a song to a competition that involves songs being judged is pretty much actively seeking feedback. Especially when reviews seem to be part of the culture around here. As someone who is still learning the craft of song writing, I really appreciated all the feedback I received, as well as reading what people liked and didn't like about other people's songs. Your review of my round zero song wasn't exactly glowing but it was respectful and gave me some concrete tips on how I could improve. And I was chuffed to get a fairly good review (with more concrete tips to improve further) for round one. Thanks man. Just wanted to let you know that your reviews are appreciated.
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Eric Y. wrote:
Tubba Gutz wrote:So one person disagreed with your reviews ...
Well, without going into specifics, one person really went out of his/her way to vehemently disagree with my opinion, claiming that no "reasonable person" would have held such an opinion, based on the notion that (his/her words, NOT mine) there were so many "absolutely atrocious songs" among his/her competitors.

That part alone was ridiculous, and I would have just laughed and went about my business, but this person also made it clear that he/she did not wish to receive any more feedback from me. It is out of respect for these wishes that I have neglected to give out any unsolicited feedback -- lest I risk inadvertently offending anyone else.

I assumed that the rambling opinions of one person are not so significant that anyone would really miss reading them -- but in case this assumption would be wrong in any particular case, I have left the option open for anyone who truly cares.
If they don't want to hear from you, they can block you on the boards. We all know we are going to be reviewed when we submit. Don't let one person make you change your approach, unless it's me telling you to keep posting reviews, except I suspect most of the participants would agree with me.
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Hmm rather than punishing everyone, just leave off the review of the one person who bothered you.

Also, this wouldn't be a contest without judges, so thank you for volunteering your time. Sometimes this place gets intense and it might seem thankless.
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If any of the judges were reasonable, I would win every time (JOKE).
This is a contest, we need judges because it is a subjective matter. Otherwise we'd just keep score.
I for one would not only like and appreciate detailed reviews of all of my songs from every judge, I am also really interested in reading all the judges reviews of the other competitors songs. The more we can know the judges, the better we can play to them. We can avoid land mines, and pet peeves etc. We can also find sweet spots.
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Manhattan Glutton wrote:Hmm rather than punishing everyone, just leave off the review of the one person who bothered you.
My first thought exactly. Sounds more like an excuse to me. If it were me in the same situation, I'd do all the reviews and intentionally make it ridiculously obvious that I'm not reviewing said person's song due to irreconcilable differences. ;)

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I'd like to hear mine, even if it does no good because I'm to be eliminated or it's a VeryBad (meaning Scary to Read!) review or you dislike the song. It's the nature of This Thing. :)
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Alright folks. I didn't really mean to make this out to be a bigger thing than it was. I just was explaining why I didn't post reviews -- so people didn't think I was just being lazy. I figured nobody would really care that much, and for the few that did, (as I said earlier), they could just contact me privately about their own song.

But, I hadn't really considered the fact that it might be helpful for other competitors to see what I had to say about all the songs, what I liked or didn't like about them. Even though I would not recommend tailoring your entries to fit the whims of what the judges like, especially if it means compromising your own artistic integrity. But whatever, here we go.

Standard disclaimer: The following words are merely the thoughts and opinions of a single person, and as such, don't really hold much merit in regards to whether or not a particular song is GOOD -- but rather, whether or not I personally enjoyed certain elements of each song. So take all of this with a grain of salt.

Non-standard disclaimer: The following words are provided here for the potential benefit of those people who may be interested in reading one of the judges' opinions, or more specifically, why one judge happened to like or dislike each of the songs. These opinions and comments may differ significantly from your own beliefs. By continuing to read this post, you acknowledge that you have read and understand and agree to abide by the contents of this disclaimer.

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  • manhattanglutton - A better Bad Religion song than most Bad Religion songs. This really treads some dangerous territory at times -- the oft-repeated "on and on and on" bit and all the parenthetical asides, and the almost-whiny vocals, any one of these parts could easily have been just THAT MUCH intensified and thereby crossed the line into super-annoying territory, thus ruining the whole song. This just happened to be a case where it all came together nicely and everything worked in your favor. It's hard to explain why that happens, so unfortunately I can't say anything that would be useful for replicating that success ;)
  • merisan - Lovely, singing is well-done, it just doesn't happen to be a style/genre that's my cup of tea. Still, I can't really find fault with anything here even if I try -- and that organ part totally bumped the scales in your direction.
  • thetydondocks - Your narrators personify the idea I have in my head when I think of the word "hooligans". I really enjoy the angle you took with the title you incorporated -- and I especially liked your punchline, once I listened closely enough to catch it. Not sure why it trails off so much at the end.
  • rossdurand - Sounds nice -- and I like the concept (philosophy/religion is full of questions we don't want the answer to, versus science which seeks clear answers based on observable facts -- used metaphorically alongside the idea of someone ruminating over unanswered questions from a failed relationship). The Tim Tebow line really sticks out, in a bad way, though -- I don't like it and I don't feel like it belongs anywhere in this song.
  • pacodelstinko - I like pretty much everything about this song except the lyrics. They're so full of non sequitors and awkward constructions (i.e. "hit-by-a-train face"), which (on reviewing the lyric archive) comes across as trying way too hard to shoehorn as many titles as possible into the song, rather than (as the challenge directed) using one MEANINGFULLY.
  • carlobrunojr - I'll tell you what -- you might not win this competition, since it's based on a few people's opinions after only having two days to listen. But in the long run, once people look back on these collections of songs in retrospect, I predict yours will be the most memorable. (I'll admit, almost every single day, I find your "Looking Glass" song stuck in my head at some point, which I couldn't really say happens with any of the other entries in this competition so far.) Each song you've done so far has really been a "grower" -- and this one is no exception. Listening again now, I probably would rate this higher than I originally did. I love the dreamy background parts, the mellow melodies, and especially the way it just sort of trails off at the end...
  • chokeholdprincess - The lettered choices here probably work better as a written poem than as sung lyrics, because while listening it's kind of hard to keep track of what you're actually saying. But conceptually it's very clever, while also very sweet. Tough to pull off without sounding cheesy, but you've succeeded at that.
  • tubbagutz - Nice song, and it's a point of view that's probably very relatable for a lot of people. Really the only complaint I have is that there are a lot of prosody issues.
  • boffoyuxdudes - I really enjoyed the vocal melody and harmonies on the verses. I think the pacing of the chorus reminded me a bit too much of a Weird Al song (a specific one, but I can't remember what it was. Maybe "Dare to be Stupid?") which sort of took away from the rest of the song, as far as I was concerned. A fairly strong showing, otherwise.
  • governingdynamics - The bassline is a little too complicated for the comparison to be totally accurate, but otherwise, a pretty good attempt at mimicking the Pixies.
  • cavedwellers - Another big, full arrangement -- but this time I feel like it might be working against you. While everything sounds great individually, at times, there's just a bit too many things happening at the same time. I do enjoy the singing here, but I cringe each time you say "switcheroo"; the word just sounds so awkward and unnatural. Especially considering how many times you said it.
  • skypup - Brilliant idea, but poor execution. The various character voices don't really work that well in this context; I don't understand why the doctor has the same voice as the evil warlock from last round. I really like the direction you took with this title, although I feel that it took so long to get through the set-up, by the time you finally got to the payoff, it didn't really have the desired effect.
  • balancelost - The sung parts with multiple voices (particularly at the beginning) don't always feel like they're quite in tune with each other. The talky parts sound much better than the singy parts. Also, each time that little stuttery thing happens in the drum part (1:02, 1:44, 2:09, 2:26) it really interrupts the flow of the song, perhaps more than you intended. Overall, not a bad song, if not exceptionally memorable.
  • frankiebigface - If this was a singing competition, I have no doubt you'd win pretty much every single round. But first and foremost it's a competition about songwriting, and as I mentioned last time, most of the time you really nail it in that category as well! Unfortunately, here's another case where I feel like the writing part really fell short. I recognize the names of some of the My Little Ponies because my sister used to play with them (and watch the cartoons) when we were little. I appreciate the inherent silliness of this, and the irony in singing about something so frivolous in a semi-serious-sounding way. But the whole song feels like the victim of being hurriedly thrown together: I don't know if you ran out of lyrics or just got lazy near the end, but I hated the way you repeated "You can't save a pony.." about nine hundred times. The musical arrangement also features some choices that I might have preferred that you had done differently: the guitar part sounds fine but a bit too simple and repetitive to support the whole song without a bit of ornamentation; it seems you recognized this and added the synth line that introduces the song (and returns later) as well as the echoey tinkly-bell part, and both of these suit the song just fine -- however, my ears strongly object to the sound of the instrument that enters at 1:16 (sounds like a cross between a synth-saxophone, a synth-tuba, and a synth-fart)
  • inflatablevegetables - Wagering that we're all not completely sick of songs in waltz-time, quite a bold move! The "for me it's work, for you it's TV" line is pretty poignant -- very simple, but it says so much. The biggest drawback to this song is the overdriven guitar part (the one that flops its way into the mix around 0:37 and poops all over the majority of the song from there on) -- to me it sounds so soulless and emasculated, it just kind of makes me sad.
  • danihouse - I don't know what all that swirly junk in the background is, but it makes this song really difficult to listen to. Which is a shame, because otherwise I suspect I would really like it.
  • ken - In retrospect, perhaps this song wasn't as bad as its ranking would suggest -- I do like the guitar bit that was borrowed from "Where is My Mind?" -- although the song for the most part is a bit plodding and fairly static; it doesn't sound bad, but nothing about it especially sticks out, which can sometimes be just as bad as being bad, I guess?
  • djrangerden - I enjoy this more once more elements start to get introduced, after the first minute or so. Up until that point, it's a bit too plain with the stark, clean vocals out front and the solitary piano way in the background. Honestly, the song would have seemed complete if it had ended at 2:40, after the first "would you come hold me?" -- but considering the fact that the title immediately follows that, and pretty much the whole point of the song is established after that point, maybe the introductory part was longer than it should have been?
  • joneric - I'm willing to forgive you for the robotic clicky noise that's supposed to represent a hi-hat here, but when the vocals start out as whiny as this ("baa-ake a caa-ake"), I'm sorry but it really does not bode well for the rest of the song. That linguistic device where you switch words from one phrase to the other (I know there has to be a word for that, but after exhaustive research into various types of figures of speech, I have come up empty) is clever at first -- "howling at the sun / bathing in the moon" but when you continue using it, it gets old rather quickly. The repeated "I don't want an answer" and especially "I don't want an a-" were basically the nails in the coffin for this one.
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  • wreckdom - I can't say why, but I was kind of bothered by most of the "response" vocal lines starting with "He" while a few of them started by repeating the name "Bear" or "Robot" or whatever. Funny, cute. Kind of a throwaway track, but you didn't have to do one at all, so whatever. In any case, the line "can't fuck with us" really makes the whole song.
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I had my scansion criticized, sure, but my PROSODY?! You sir have crossed the line!!!
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Tubba Gutz wrote:I had my scansion criticized, sure, but my PROSODY?! You sir have crossed the line!!!
How about your vocabulary? :P
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How about your butt's vocabulary!
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Re: Nur Ein VIII- Round Two

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Tubba Gutz wrote:How about your butt's vocabulary!
Well, I know when I've been bested. Well-played, Mr. Gutz.
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