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Community Culture and Rules of Order

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Point of order, is it inappropriate to ask the community for feedback on non-sonfight songs like stuff on SoundCloud? I plan to submit to song fight but training a deep learning pipeline to sing is harder than I thought it would be so its songs are all instrumentals now... :P

If it is ok, where would I request feedback?
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There is a "listen to my song" thread for non songfight songs here: viewtopic.php?f=14&t=424
and I'm sure you could ask for feedback on there. I'm not sure how much you'll get, especially now that both Songfight and Nur Ein are going on. But you could try.

Also, there's a collaboration forum you could ask for a "top liner" to add vocal and melody to a (new) instrumental or backing track for a fight if you want. Again, not sure how much interest there is on the site, but it might be worth a shot.
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claytantor wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 8:51 am
Point of order, is it inappropriate to ask the community for feedback on non-sonfight songs like stuff on SoundCloud? I plan to submit to song fight but training a deep learning pipeline to sing is harder than I thought it would be so its songs are all instrumentals now... :P

If it is ok, where would I request feedback?
And if you can't sing at all, it doesn't matter. We have plenty of people here who aren't stellar vocalists. We're also semi-anonymous.
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Deeporb eh? Any relation to Snuts?
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jb wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 11:45 am
Deeporb eh? Any relation to Snuts?
Sorry I dont know of a Snuts besides the band from Scottland, and if that is the case then.... Nope.
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sleepysilverdoor wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 11:26 am
claytantor wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 8:51 am
Point of order, is it inappropriate to ask the community for feedback on non-sonfight songs like stuff on SoundCloud? I plan to submit to song fight but training a deep learning pipeline to sing is harder than I thought it would be so its songs are all instrumentals now... :P

If it is ok, where would I request feedback?
And if you can't sing at all, it doesn't matter. We have plenty of people here who aren't stellar vocalists. We're also semi-anonymous.
Everyone here is so nice, but its kinda the point to have all the content be generated.
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So what you’re saying is...

you’re not familiar with...

Deesnuts.
claytantor wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 2:18 pm
jb wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 11:45 am
Deeporb eh? Any relation to Snuts?
Sorry I dont know of a Snuts besides the band from Scottland, and if that is the case then.... Nope.
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claytantor wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 2:19 pm
sleepysilverdoor wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 11:26 am
claytantor wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 8:51 am
Point of order, is it inappropriate to ask the community for feedback on non-sonfight songs like stuff on SoundCloud? I plan to submit to song fight but training a deep learning pipeline to sing is harder than I thought it would be so its songs are all instrumentals now... :P

If it is ok, where would I request feedback?
And if you can't sing at all, it doesn't matter. We have plenty of people here who aren't stellar vocalists. We're also semi-anonymous.
Everyone here is so nice, but its kinda the point to have all the content be generated.
Not everyone is nice. After all - it's song fight. Not song love. That Johnny Cashpoint chap can sometimes get a bit tetchy.
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claytantor wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 8:51 am
Point of order, is it inappropriate to ask the community for feedback on non-sonfight songs like stuff on SoundCloud? I plan to submit to song fight but training a deep learning pipeline to sing is harder than I thought it would be so its songs are all instrumentals now... :P

If it is ok, where would I request feedback?
I have no idea what "training a deep learning pipeline to sing" means - but if you are doing computer generated music and you supplied computer generated lyrics like on the AI lyric thing someone posed here a while ago - I reckon there would be a lot of people here happy to provide voices for you. Well, I would anyway. Is that what you are sort of talking about? Or am I missing it?
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All the contented be generated.... if you use that AI lyric thingy and then put it into a free text to voice site and then midi controlled the pitch to get your melody you could do without (other) humans.
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Pigfarmer Jr wrote:
Sun May 31, 2020 6:15 am
All the contented be generated.... if you use that AI lyric thingy and then put it into a free text to voice site and then midi controlled the pitch to get your melody you could do without (other) humans.
This is a little different I think. I wrote all the code for this using Tensorflow and Magenta as well as PyTorch. Its all written in Python from the ground up and trained with music and lyrics in the public domain. In other words this is a homegrown AI. I do all the training on my Ryzen 3900 with 64G memory and a NVidia 2080Ti

https://www.tensorflow.org

https://github.com/tensorflow/magenta

https://pytorch.org/
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claytantor wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:02 pm
Pigfarmer Jr wrote:
Sun May 31, 2020 6:15 am
All the contented be generated.... if you use that AI lyric thingy and then put it into a free text to voice site and then midi controlled the pitch to get your melody you could do without (other) humans.
This is a little different I think. I wrote all the code for this using Tensorflow and Magenta as well as PyTorch. Its all written in Python from the ground up and trained with music and lyrics in the public domain. In other words this is a homegrown AI. I do all the training on my Ryzen 3900 with 64G memory and a NVidia 2080Ti

https://www.tensorflow.org

https://github.com/tensorflow/magenta

https://pytorch.org/
Well. That's made everything perfectly clear then.
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Well, I understood it
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I sort of understood it, though I'm not really familiar with any of the frameworks you mentioned. I used to do a lot of live-coding with Overtone... which isn't AI but still at least in the same dimension.
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