December 12, 2007

Ross · Post by **Ross** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:32 pm

Here.

The only rap album I remember enjoying and being impressed by was teh first Ice-Cube album.

JonPorobil · Post by **JonPorobil** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:51 pm

Niveous wrote: Some of my other favorites include the GZA, N.W.A., Eminem, Tupac, Ice Cube, and my all time favorite Guru (from Gangstarr). Though I'm unsure of who I would give the greatest rapper crown to. Jay-Z has some phenomenal lyrical flow and I might have to give it to him. Have any of you heard him on the Amy Winehouse "Rehab" remix. Unbelievable.

Ross wrote: The only rap album I remember enjoying and being impressed by was teh first Ice-Cube album.

I never realized Ice Cube got that much 'spect as a rapper. Guess I'll check it out.

In my earlier list, I forgot to mention Blackalicious. One of my first introductions to rap as a genre of serious potential was a ten-minute-long Blackalicious track called "Release" featuring Lyrics Born, Saul Williams, and Zack de la Rocha. It's from their 2002 album Blazing Arrow. Check it out if you haven't.

HeuristicsInc · Post by **HeuristicsInc** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:02 am

oh, that's right, jay-z is the rapper on the grey album. yuk! i liked the music from that, but the raps ruined it for me. sorry, but i didn't like that at all.
-bill

jute gyte · Post by **jute gyte** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:36 am

Some reasons Jay-Z is incredible:

Releases a capellas so you can hear the utter lack of punch-ins
Masterful wordplay
Has a ton of rhythm and delivery styles
NEVER WRITES DOWN LYRICS

erik · Post by **erik** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:37 am

HeuristicsInc wrote:oh, that's right, jay-z is the rapper on the grey album. yuk! i loved the music from that, but the raps ruined it for me. sorry, but i didn't like that at all.
-bill

For me, the music ruined the raps.

jack · Post by **jack** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:01 am

erik wrote:
HeuristicsInc wrote:oh, that's right, jay-z is the rapper on the grey album. yuk! i loved the music from that, but the raps ruined it for me. sorry, but i didn't like that at all.
-bill
For me, the music ruined the raps.

i'm with you (despite the fact it was the beatles).

fluffy · Post by **fluffy** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:11 am

It was the Beatles put through a blender set on "annoying."

HeuristicsInc · Post by **HeuristicsInc** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:59 am

Oh let me modify what I said: I meant "liked" not "loved". Still didn't like the raps, though.
-bill

Denyer · Post by **Denyer** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:05 pm

Generic wrote:Brother Ali is one of my favorites, and his pal Atmosphere too.

Niveous wrote:Atmosphere is insane. I just started listening to him again recently. He's got a great flow.

Atmosphere is a group. You guys are talking of the rapper, Slug, and yes he is phenomenal.

The greatest of all time (GOAT), I believe, is Q-Tip.

Niveous · Post by **Niveous** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 6:15 am

Denyer wrote: Atmosphere is a group. You guys are talking of the rapper, Slug, and yes he is phenomenal.

Yes, I always make that mistake. Sometimes I forget Ant's contributions. Maybe because they aren't of the same caliber as Slug's. They aren't like Gangstarr where Guru and DJ Premier are on equal footing.

JonPorobil · Post by **JonPorobil** » Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:13 am

Ant's only real problem is that he wears himself a little too thin by DJing full-time for Atmosphere and for Brother Ali. I thought his work on God Loves Ugly was mostly daring and fun to listen to. Same with Shadows on the Sun, and especially for Ali's Champion EP, but You Can't Imagine How Much Fun We're Having and The Undisputed Truth both sound like Ant's just phoning it in, which results in neither of those albums being nearly as engaging as their predecessors.

And yeah, I always mix up Atmosphere with Slug, too. Oh well; everyone knew what I (we) meant.

fodroy · Post by **fodroy** » Thu Dec 20, 2007 2:35 am

qotd: i haven't been impressed by any rap as i have been by the lyrical interplay of a tribe called quest songs. i also don't listen to much rap.

and i'm drunk.

i don't know what i did on this day. i just read this question of the day. i haven't checked the forums in a while.

i'm going to bed.