jack wrote:so what up Lost fans?
so i'm left feeling quite uh.....lost. not sure what to make of this whole dual world existence idea, but they played the time travel concept ok. we'll see how well quantum mechanics plays.
but here's a question for generic (or anyone else reading this). It appears Juliet has died, although nothing is ever as it appears. But I haven't seen her in the other world, while many of the "doubled" folks are in both places. So I wonder if you die on the island, you are dead off.
as opposed to Locke who died off the island, but now appears alive, but we all know the new locke is really the smoke monster. so maybe Locke is still dead.
and Jacob, who appeared to die on the island, but now appears alive again on the island.
wtf?
On the other hand, Charlie, who DEFINITELY died on the island, is alive in the alterverse (or whaddever you wanna call it).
At first I thought it was a hypothetical "What if" scenario, but now I'm pretty sure that these two realities are in some kind of uneasy coexistence. In other words, Right now in the Lost universe, in 2004, there's two Kates running around: one is currently helping Jack stitch his own wounds, and the other is driving Claire around in a stolen taxicab. There's two Hurleys, one of whom is walking around L.A. as the luckiest man in the world, and the other of whom is on the Island, perpetually cursed (how much you wanna bet Bizarro-Hurley played the lotto with a different set of numbers?). There's two Lockes, one of whom is walking on the island, and the other of whom is wheeling himself out of LAX. In short, there's two of everyone, and the universe is going to have a difficult time reconciling that.
At least, that's what I think is happening. That explanation definitely makes the new "flashbacks" feel like less of a waste of time.
Bear in mind that the pre-titles sequence of the premiere ended with a fast-zoom down underwater, and that giant statue foot was at the seabed, meaning the Island either doesn't exist, or at least never got moved to the location it was at when Flight 815 crashed in the primary universe. So it's kind of up in the air who wound up there and who didn't. Ethan and Desmond are shown to have never wound up on the Island, but what about Juliette? Ben? Yemi (Eko's brother)? Rousseau? Does the Dharma initiative even exist in the alternate universe?
I think that once we get the answers to these questions, it'll be a lot clearer what's going on between the two universes. Plus, sooner or later, we're going to start seeing points of conflation between the two, and I suspect we're going to wind up with only one of these universes, or some weird compromise between them. Who knows what that'll look like, though.
Hey, also, some characters seem to have some kind of knowledge of what's going on. Bizarro-Charlie says "I was supposed to die!" as the police drag him out of the plane. He seems to know that the universe he's in is the wrong one. Juliet tells Sawyer that "It worked." How does she know? Other characters seem to feel it subconsciously - Claire instinctively trusts Kate, but she can't explain why. Jack and Locke, on the other hand, seem entirely unaware that they've ever met before, and interact like strangers in the lost baggage office.
So I dunno. It sounds like I have a slightly clearer grasp of what's going on that you guys do, but I'm not even going to begin to predict what'll happen in the next few episodes. I don't know how the Others fit into it, and I don't know why some of the people from the other end of the plane seem to have been allowed into the Others. Nor do I quite understand what their relationship was to the group that Ben led when they lived on that former Dharma compound (the show seems to imply that they're the same group, but if that's the case, then how come we haven't seen Dogen, Lennon, or most of the Tail-end survivors until these last couple of episodes?).
So yeah. They gots a lot to answer for.
Things are looking pretty bleak at this point. I'm most curious to see what happens with Ben and Kate now. Kate knew Locke was dead, right? So she's probably seriously wtf-ing. And Ben's fate at the end was completely unresolved. They did a good job of distracting me to the point where I did not expect even a paltry "cavalry" to arrive when it did.