The audio fingerprint won't match your live performance, but maybe your recordings played during the breaks will match if that's what you registered...fluffy wrote: Ha ha, this might be an interesting wrinkle - my songs are registered with AdRev now, so it's possible (albeit unlikely) that Google might decide that my set is infringing. Wouldn't that be hilarious?
What's your YouTube channel so I can whitelist it in AdRev?
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It depends on what kind of fingerprinting they're doing. I know that AdRev gives a LOT of content matches based on tiny fragments and 12-tone analysis and so on, given some of the hits that have turned up on my dashboard (and some of the hits that led me to register in the first place, because of other peoples' registered uses of songs that use some of the same Logic loops I've used).roymond wrote:The audio fingerprint won't match your live performance, but maybe your recordings played during the breaks will match if that's what you registered...fluffy wrote: Ha ha, this might be an interesting wrinkle - my songs are registered with AdRev now, so it's possible (albeit unlikely) that Google might decide that my set is infringing. Wouldn't that be hilarious?
What's your YouTube channel so I can whitelist it in AdRev?
For example, I got an AdRev hit on a ccMixter remix that just used a sample from one of my songs but doesn't sound at all similar to the original. So I wonder.
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One of my Youtube videos is a solo piano cover of "Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner" by Warren Zevon, and BMI found it, issued a copyright claim on it, and slapped ads over it. I didn't use the original recording at all. They can definitely catch performances that differ from the studio recording. It's kind of ridiculous.fluffy wrote:It depends on what kind of fingerprinting they're doing. I know that AdRev gives a LOT of content matches based on tiny fragments and 12-tone analysis and so on, given some of the hits that have turned up on my dashboard (and some of the hits that led me to register in the first place, because of other peoples' registered uses of songs that use some of the same Logic loops I've used).roymond wrote:The audio fingerprint won't match your live performance, but maybe your recordings played during the breaks will match if that's what you registered...fluffy wrote: Ha ha, this might be an interesting wrinkle - my songs are registered with AdRev now, so it's possible (albeit unlikely) that Google might decide that my set is infringing. Wouldn't that be hilarious?
What's your YouTube channel so I can whitelist it in AdRev?
For example, I got an AdRev hit on a ccMixter remix that just used a sample from one of my songs but doesn't sound at all similar to the original. So I wonder.
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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdBE1D ... 3p76mcPtiAfluffy wrote: What's your YouTube channel so I can whitelist it in AdRev?
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I set up Google events for the Hangout on Air:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/chde ... klqqe3mi8k (night 1)
https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/c3v2 ... 65qv8ofddc (night 2)
You don't need to RSVP, but it's there as a reminder for you, if you use Google Calendar and/or Google+.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/chde ... klqqe3mi8k (night 1)
https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/c3v2 ... 65qv8ofddc (night 2)
You don't need to RSVP, but it's there as a reminder for you, if you use Google Calendar and/or Google+.
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Crap, it's only letting me whitelist channels associated with my Google account. Never mind, I'm sure it'll be fine.Generic wrote:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdBE1D ... 3p76mcPtiAfluffy wrote: What's your YouTube channel so I can whitelist it in AdRev?
[EDIT] Oh, I see, it's using Google's OAuth thing. I could whitelist it from your laptop instead, if you care.
Yeah, and AdRev finds things based on the 'composition,' too. There's obviously some 12-tone and rhythm analysis going on. This is the one which got a positive hit for "composition:"Generic wrote:One of my Youtube videos is a solo piano cover of "Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner" by Warren Zevon, and BMI found it, issued a copyright claim on it, and slapped ads over it. I didn't use the original recording at all. They can definitely catch performances that differ from the studio recording. It's kind of ridiculous.
That's just the vocal line from No Brakes (Radio Ready version) on top of a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT backing track, and the remixer used pitch adjustment to change the melody to fit the completely different chord progression. And ContentID/AdRev found it the day the video was posted.
(I've also made a whole $0.01 off of it so far! Finally, I'm a professional musician!)
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YouTube's fingerprinting survives processing to a surprising degree but the pitch tracking wasn't very good. This sounds way more advanced than when I audited their systems four years ago, which should be expected since it's one of their primary revenue streams and the only way labels would let them host such things.fluffy wrote: That's just the vocal line from No Brakes (Radio Ready version) on top of a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT backing track, and the remixer used pitch adjustment to change the melody to fit the completely different chord progression. And ContentID/AdRev found it the day the video was posted.
Plus, that's an awesome track, fluffy.
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I'm streaming Manhattan Glutton's rehearsal in order to test the camera and the board audio. http://youtu.be/JDMwTrV_LJE
Someone please check in and let me know how it looks/sounds.
Someone please check in and let me know how it looks/sounds.
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looks pretty good.
I hear vocals, keys and bass okay
drums are really soft, guitar is a little soft. I don't imagine you have much control of that mix.
I hear vocals, keys and bass okay
drums are really soft, guitar is a little soft. I don't imagine you have much control of that mix.
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This is happening!
Ken's Super Duper Band 'n Stuff - Berkeley Social Scene - Tiny Robots - Seamus Collective - Semolina Pilchards - Cutie Pies - Explino! - Bravo Bros. - 2 from 14 - and more!
i would just like to remind everyone that Ken eats kittens - blue lang
i would just like to remind everyone that Ken eats kittens - blue lang
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Ken's Super Duper Band 'n Stuff - Berkeley Social Scene - Tiny Robots - Seamus Collective - Semolina Pilchards - Cutie Pies - Explino! - Bravo Bros. - 2 from 14 - and more!
i would just like to remind everyone that Ken eats kittens - blue lang
i would just like to remind everyone that Ken eats kittens - blue lang
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Live stream here: http://youtu.be/2_waiR8anfk
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Nice! I saw Sam a second ago but now someone messed up the camera. :O
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By luck, I glanced back at the live stream window just in time to spot the mistake and fix it before Manhattan Glutton started.jack wrote:Nice! I saw Sam a second ago but now someone messed up the camera. :O

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i would just like to remind everyone that Ken eats kittens - blue lang
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Had to cut it off before we hit that 3 hour limit. Here's the new stream: http://youtu.be/NWSKT4lFPl0
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The Night 2 Live stream is here: http://youtu.be/-VjVoJJ6vHo
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Live fight stream: http://youtu.be/PcGdjpqqk0o
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That concludes the streaming for the event! Thanks to everyone who tuned in, and congratulations to Manhattan Glutton for winning the live fight!
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Hey Jon, I doubt you will see this, but in case you do, all the YouTube links you posted result in "This video is not here anymore". I don't suppose you have copies of those recorded streams anywhere, do you?