Dead Pope

Adam! · Post by **Adam!** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 10:20 am

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mico saudad · Post by **mico saudad** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 11:21 am

Puce wrote:
blue wrote:http://www.thebody.com/schoofs/africa5.html
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Great article.

Caravan Ray · Post by **Caravan Ray** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 4:41 pm

Kapitano wrote: This thread is not about one man who was the pope. It's about the policies of the catholic church, which has surprisingly little to do with their most revered spokesman.

Actually, I had intended the thread to be about the Pope in particular and not the church in general.

I have a lot of respect for the Catholic Church. I was raised a Catholic, and I have lived and worked in a developing country where I met nuns and priests working with the poor who were absolute models of humanity. There are certainly a lot of problems with a lot of RC doctrine - but overall, it can be seen as a force of good in the world. When I apologised if I caused offence earlier in the thread it was genuine, because I had no intention for my rantings to be seen as disrespect to somebodies faith.

BUT,

the Pope is an entirely different matter. He was the man who was in the position to change some of the more odeous points of RC doctrine - and he didn't do it. As Kap. has pointed out - the Pope is not infallible on moral issues - so therefore I have every right to slip the boot into the old git as much as I like. And I slip the boot in on behalf of the women who die unneccesarily in childbirth because their hospital records are marked 'RC', meaning that their pregnancy must not be terminated, on behalf of the women who cannot feed their families because the local priest holds them up to public ridicule if they do not contribute to the weekly offering (both real examples in my experience), and on behalf of every child condemned to live in poverty because the Vaticans outdated social engineering.

I firmly believe that anybody who takes it upon themselves to tell others how to live their lives - whether it be the Pope, the President, or Caravan Ray - should be held up to ridicule as often as possible. The more seriously you take people like these, then there is a danger that people will start to think that the things they are saying should always be believed. Don't let this happen.

Caravan Ray · Post by **Caravan Ray** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 6:54 am

"Time to speak ill of a dead leader who let millions live in anguish" - Sydney Morning Herald, 13/04/05:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/Opinion/Time ... click=true

erik · Post by **erik** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 8:22 am

"I thought the time for that was last week"

http://www.smh.com.au/news/Opinion/Time ... click=fake

Caravan Ray · Post by **Caravan Ray** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 8:28 am

erikb wrote:"I thought the time for that was last week"

http://www.smh.com.au/news/Opinion/Time ... click=fake

"I'm just getting ready for the next bastard"

http://www.smh.com.au/news/Opinion/I'm- ... click=fake
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Poor June · Post by **Poor June** » Sat Apr 16, 2005 5:15 am

woooo... i just read everything in this thread... i have to side with blue on the whole aids thing...
cause if they didn't stand against condoms... they'd be readily admitting that pre-marital sex... as well as adultery could be fine...
so... they choose to stay against it... cause in the religion... it is not alright...

the idea is... sins have reprecussions... so to them... that's that...

however i have never liked the catholic church... it does have quite a bit of power... it's all about organization... you must ask a priest for your forgiveness... well a priest is still just another person...
*delete this particular offensive line*... but i respect others belief in it... i just personally don't hold any great tithes with it...

i just think ya know... wow... that's a lot of arguing and hateful stuff goin' around... givin' the catholic church is responsible for a lot of stuff... but it's been around forever... it's power is undeniably huge... and it's not all the popes fault that it is that way... any pope is still gonna be in question to follow the belief of the church... 'go figure'...
but every man has there faults... which... uhm... 'any man that says he is without sin, is a liar and the truth is not in him'... so i guess it all depends on how far you wanna go...

i'm just kinda scared who the next one will be... all be it this last one was fine in my book

Edit: oh should be another spot in the poll... for indifferent... as it is... i'm not voting one way or the other... i think a 50/50 one would be a nice option

erik · Post by **erik** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 11:36 am

New Pope Elected:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/04 ... index.html

Kapitano · Post by **Kapitano** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 1:21 pm

Putting the power behind the throne...on the throne. A bit like electing Cheney to succeed Bush.

In other words: "New boss, same as the old boss."

Or if you prefer: "Same shit, same packaging."

Rabid Garfunkel · Post by **Rabid Garfunkel** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 1:42 pm

Looked at the title of the thread and thought of the theme song to that '80s tv comedy "Square Pegs"... deadpope deadpope dead dead POPE!

WTF, did Leaf bite me or something? Wereleaf! Heh.

Leaf · Post by **Leaf** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:04 pm

You WISH bigboy.

You wish.

RRRaaawwwwrrr.

Geoff WreckdoM · Post by **Geoff WreckdoM** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 4:53 pm

President Bush on Tuesday called newly elected Pope Benedict XVI a "man of great wisdom and knowledge." He is "a man who serves the Lord" Bush said of the pope.

Hoblit · Post by **Hoblit** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 6:21 pm

Hoblit wrote:Anyways... There will be a new pope...he'll be full of too much respected religious power as the last one was. Oh, and he'll be European...thats just about a gaurantee. He will not be able to stop WWIII.

erikb wrote:I wasn't commenting on how one would be better than another, but just that it's not all sewn-up that the next pope will be European.

It is now.

erik · Post by **erik** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 6:40 pm

Wow, you sure put me in my place. Your use of bolding and the fact that the current Pope is from Germany must mean that the chances for a non-European pope were slim to none back when I made that statement.

roymond · Post by **roymond** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 7:02 pm

More evidence (in my mind) that the world will yet become more polarized between radical fundamentalism and the tide of revulsion against it.

Hoblit · Post by **Hoblit** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 7:10 pm

erikb wrote:Wow, you sure put me in my place. Your use of bolding and the fact that the current Pope is from Germany must mean that the chances for a non-European pope were slim to none back when I made that statement.

Well, I tried to tell ya! (I really didn't mean to make that bolded quote offensive...you are sooo sensitive these days

)

Roymond, I totally agree.

erik · Post by **erik** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 7:49 pm

You've mistaken sarcasm and a firm grasp of the basics of probability for sensitivity. :lol:

Hoblit · Post by **Hoblit** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 9:53 pm

erikb wrote:You've mistaken sarcasm and a firm grasp of the basics of probability for sensitivity.

Math is hard!

"I-I-I know what you're gonna say son. When two halves is gone there's nuthin' left - and you're right. It's a little ol' worm who wasn't there. Two nuthins is nuthin'. That's mathematics son. You can argue with me but you can't argue with figures. Two half nuthins is a whole nuthin'. " - Foghorn Leghorn

Dead Pope

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