Bush stole 2004 election

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Bush stole 2004 election

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To sum: discrepancies between exit polling and actual vote totals almost invariably favored Bush, to the extent that (taking into account the general accuracy of these types of exit polls) it is almost a statistical certainty that Bush and the Republican party stole the election.

The article appears to be very well-researched, though I didn't check out the sources, and it's written by Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. There are a lot of juicy tidbits:
Over the past decades, exit polling has evolved into an exact science. Indeed, among pollsters and statisticians, such surveys are thought to be the most reliable. Unlike pre-election polls, in which voters are asked to predict their own behavior at some point in the future, exit polls ask voters leaving the voting booth to report an action they just executed. The results are exquisitely accurate: Exit polls in Germany, for example, have never missed the mark by more than three-tenths of one percent.
In ten of the eleven battleground states, the tallied margins departed from what the polls had predicted. In every case, the shift favored Bush. Based on exit polls, CNN had predicted Kerry defeating Bush in Ohio by a margin of 4.2 percentage points. Instead, election results showed Bush winning the state by 2.5 percent. Bush also tallied 6.5 percent more than the polls had predicted in Pennsylvania, and 4.9 percent more in Florida.(33)

According to Steven F. Freeman, a visiting scholar at the University of Pennsylvania who specializes in research methodology, the odds against all three of those shifts occurring in concert are one in 660,000. ''As much as we can say in sound science that something is impossible,'' he says, ''it is impossible that the discrepancies between predicted and actual vote count in the three critical battleground states of the 2004 election could have been due to chance or random error.''
What's more, Freeman found, the greatest disparities between exit polls and the official vote count came in Republican strongholds. In precincts where Bush received at least eighty percent of the vote, the exit polls were off by an average of ten percent. By contrast, in precincts where Kerry dominated by eighty percent or more, the exit polls were accurate to within three tenths of one percent -- a pattern that suggests Republican election officials stuffed the ballot box in Bush country.(39)
The evidence is especially strong in Ohio. In January, a team of mathematicians from the National Election Data Archive, a nonpartisan watchdog group, compared the state's exit polls against the certified vote count in each of the forty-nine precincts polled by Edison/Mitofsky. In twenty-two of those precincts -- nearly half of those polled -- they discovered results that differed widely from the official tally. Once again -- against all odds -- the widespread discrepancies were stacked massively in Bush's favor: In only two of the suspect twenty-two precincts did the disparity benefit Kerry. The wildest discrepancy came from the precinct Mitofsky numbered ''27,'' in order to protect the anonymity of those surveyed. According to the exit poll, Kerry should have received sixty-seven percent of the vote in this precinct. Yet the certified tally gave him only thirty-eight percent. The statistical odds against such a variance are just shy of one in 3 billion.(40)
But in the battle for Ohio, Republicans had a distinct advantage: The man in charge of the counting was Kenneth Blackwell, the co-chair of President Bush's re-election committee.(43) As Ohio's secretary of state, Blackwell had broad powers to interpret and implement state and federal election laws -- setting standards for everything from the processing of voter registration to the conduct of official recounts.
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I don't think we've been in control of our government for a very long time.
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Bush in 2008!
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Jeb Bush most likely.
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Yeah, no, a monarchy is illegal.
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WeaselSlayer wrote:Yeah, no, a monarchy is illegal.
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Post by WeaselSlayer »

If Jeb became president, the Bushes would be like the first American royal family.
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Post by j$ »

The Kennedies got there first.
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Yeah but this would be a royal family of retard hillbillies, much more bothersome than yachtsmen.
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Post by Caravan Ray »

so, potentially Hillary could win the next election, then 8 year later - Jeb takes over - giving you 36 consecutive years of being ruled by 2 families

...then if one of those good-time young Bush girlies hooks up with a gender-reassigned Chelsea....
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Post by sausage boy »

You Americans are crazy.

Why can't you just vote in houshold product spokeman lookalikes like we do here in Australia?
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You mean, as in: "Clean, wax and polish as you dust with the Right Honourable Member for Bennelong?"
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sausage boy wrote:You Americans are crazy.

Why can't you just vote in houshold product spokeman lookalikes like we do here in Australia?
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sausage boy wrote:You Americans are crazy.

Why can't you just vote in houshold product spokeman lookalikes like we do here in Australia?
Actually - now you mention that nasty lying little rodent - this little piece is drawn to mind:

http://www.timetogojohn.com/video/ttgjv ... thy%20slut

...Denyer - is this you doing this? It sounds like it!
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Post by Reist »

Wow ... and I thought Canadian politics were corrupt. That's pretty interesting.
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Post by Paco Del Stinko »

I've long thought that George Bush is like Ronald McDonald: He's a spokesperson. He doesn't make the hamburgers, he just sells them to you. Or crams'em down your throat.

Although I am for a woman as president, Hilary in office might be too close to a dynasty. You can put Condy in prison though, not the White House.
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Post by Hoblit »

I would totally vote for Clinton. She has The White House on her resume. She has intimate knowledge of the presidency already and that is a huge experience plus over most potential candidates.

However, she'd potentially lose to Sen. John McCain or Jeb Bush. Not because they are better candidates...but because of republican prepping or the budding dynasty.

A female president is wholly possible and I believe there are plenty of Democrat votes to be had, but to purple people, a female president is a hard sell.

(note, when I said Bush 2008!, I meant George W.... half joking ALL sarcasm)
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Post by WeaselSlayer »

John McCain has my support, he's a great man.
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Hoblit wrote:(note, when I said Bush 2008!, I meant George W.... half joking ALL sarcasm)
Because he'll just change the constitution :)
Stealing the election would simply be a nice prequel.

Clinton brings so much baggage.

John McCain is becoming more of a partisan politician than the great man he once was. Was this inevitable?
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damn, that sounds just like denyer in that video!
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Post by Justincombustion »

Impeach the lying bastard

Here is a form to download and send to the House Judiciary Committe c/o the Honorable Jon Conyers Jr (give me your clothes, your boots and your motorcycle).

There IS a precidence for this happening before, and according to the Articles of Impeachment citizens CAN demand impeachment. We just need numbers. And yes, I realize that Cheney would then become President, but then he would be the next and they will fall like so many corrupt dominoes.

Americans, enough talk. Time to walk the walk.
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