how do you go from 80's metal to today's metal

Niveous · Post by **Niveous** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:09 am

Soulfly can be good at times, not so good at others. Nowhere as good as Sepultura though.

Hoblit · Post by **Hoblit** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:38 am

HeuristicsInc wrote:
Sven wrote: The newest Deftones is fucking awesome. Get it. Only heavy band I listen to that goes from moody Depeche Mode-ish technotrance to brutal dissonant odd-time scream metal. Sometimes in the same song. Chino Moreno is in my top ten list of favorite vocalists, too.
Now this sounds interesting. What is this album?

-bill

I'm not sure what Deftones album he is talking about but a really really good one is called Adrenaline. Very moody and then to hard rock in an instant. Then it goes back to moody almost as quickly. Its just a really solid record.

Albatross · Post by **Albatross** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:22 am

Leaf wrote:Have you heard SOD's tune Celtic Frosted Flakes? Fuckin hilarious!

It's long been a pipe dream of mine to have Songfight cover Speak English or Die in its entirety.

fodroy · Post by **fodroy** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:21 pm

Hoblit wrote:
HeuristicsInc wrote:
Sven wrote: The newest Deftones is fucking awesome. Get it. Only heavy band I listen to that goes from moody Depeche Mode-ish technotrance to brutal dissonant odd-time scream metal. Sometimes in the same song. Chino Moreno is in my top ten list of favorite vocalists, too.
Now this sounds interesting. What is this album?

-bill
I'm not sure what Deftones album he is talking about but a really really good one is called Adrenaline. Very moody and then to hard rock in an instant. Then it goes back to moody almost as quickly. Its just a really solid record.

That was my least favorite of their albums. It just seemed very sloppy.

Hoblit · Post by **Hoblit** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:44 pm

fodroy wrote:
Hoblit wrote:
HeuristicsInc wrote: Now this sounds interesting. What is this album?

-bill
I'm not sure what Deftones album he is talking about but a really really good one is called Adrenaline. Very moody and then to hard rock in an instant. Then it goes back to moody almost as quickly. Its just a really solid record.
That was my least favorite of their albums. It just seemed very sloppy.

Well your just wrong. (of course I'm kidding..but wow...it's my favorite)

Märk · Post by **Märk** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:44 pm

Hoblit, have you heard Saturday Night Wrist?

I'm sort of on the fence about Adrenaline- sometimes it annoys me when it comes up on the ipod, and other times I get drawn right into it. Certainly an intense album, though.

starfinger · Post by **starfinger** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 5:28 am

i don't mean to derail this, but do people listen to their ipods in such a way that they are surprised what album is playing?

Billy's Little Trip · Post by **Billy's Little Trip** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 8:58 am

starfinger wrote:i don't mean to derail this, but do people listen to their ipods in such a way that they are surprised what album is playing?

Only on my shuffle, but my full size ipod shows it on the screen. If they aren't tagged, I tag them before they go on my ipod. I primarily use my shuffle for music I'm working on, because I was burning through dics like ...umm.....OH I know, like brain cells.

Niveous · Post by **Niveous** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:26 am

I wouldn't choose Adrenaline or Saturday Night Wrist as my favorite Deftones album. I much prefer Around the Fur and especially White Pony.

Around the Fur includes "My Own Summer", "Be Quiet and Drive" and "Rickets" which all rock. (Rickets is in 7/4 time!)

White Pony includes soime of what I think are their finest works: "Digital Bath", "Change in the House of Flies", "Back to School", "Knife Party" and "Passenger" (w/ Maynard of Tool).

Though if I had to choose between Adrenaline and SNW, I'd go with Wrist because it's got Annie Hardy of Giant Drag on a song and a cover of the Cars' "Drive" (on the iTunes edition)

Märk · Post by **Märk** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:31 am

Niv: I agree with you, mostly. I love all the Deftones albums, but White Pony is my favorite, followed by Around the Fur. Their self-titled one is really good, although it got largely ignored. Right now, I've been listening to SNW quite a bit, and it's becoming a favorite too.

Craig: I usually just put mine on Shuffle and it stays in my pocket. I guess what I meant was, I get annoyed sometimes when songs from that album come up, not the album itself. I have like 3500 songs on mine, and I actually like about half of them, so shuffle is a 50/50 chance with me.

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WeaselSlayer · Post by **WeaselSlayer** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:33 am

Electric Wizard, Pig Destroyer, Today is the Day, Drudkh (and Hate Forest), and Slayer still rules.

Reist · Post by **Reist** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:12 pm

Maybe it's because I'm still a kid, but I like a lot of modern metal. That said, I also dislike a lot of modern metal ... especially screamo. There is a lot of death metal stuff that's pretty cool.

Hoblit · Post by **Hoblit** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:13 am

jolly roger wrote:Maybe it's because I'm still a kid, but I like a lot of modern metal. That said, I also dislike a lot of modern metal ... especially screamo. There is a lot of death metal stuff that's pretty cool.

I'm old and I still like some of the Metal that comes out today... its just a matter of taste one would hope. I don't foresee a day where I wake up with a new found disgust for 'loud music' and shaking my cane at kids while yelling at them to get off my lawn.

Who knows though, it could happen.

That Jack Johnson <i>is</i> pretty snazzy...

Billy's Little Trip · Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:23 am

I pretty much like any metal that uses any combination of the words click click or boom as their hook, lol. I love that sh!t! I call it "my on the way home from work to get drunk" music.

c.layne · Post by **c.layne** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:42 am

electric wizard -dopethrone
very black sabbath, but heavier. slow and sludgy, and it's awesome.

i second mastodon as well as 3 inches of blood.

and if you're looking for more doom rock like sabbath, i can also suggest high on fire, sleep, and cathedral

and lastly, if you like it reallllly slow and really heavy, check out jesu

Reist · Post by **Reist** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 11:12 am

Behemoth is probably the most intense band I've ever heard. I don't really like them, but just listening is an assault to my entire body.

WeaselSlayer · Post by **WeaselSlayer** » Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:58 pm

Ps, pick up the Dethklok Dethalbum. The metal community should be embarassed as hell that a comedian is responsible for one of the best metal releases I've heard in ages.

Hoblit · Post by **Hoblit** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:15 am

WeaselSlayer wrote:Ps, pick up the Dethklok Dethalbum. The metal community should be embarassed as hell that a comedian is responsible for one of the best metal releases I've heard in ages.

I can't understand an effing thing that guy is saying... but I get a kick out of the sound they achieve. That cartoon is great.

jute gyte · Post by **jute gyte** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:41 am

If you want metal that still obviously descends from the Sabbath blue prints, go with some good doom, stoner, or sludge metal. Eyehategod, Acid Bath, and the previously mentioned Electric Wizard and Sleep. I assume you're not looking for really abrasive stuff. The stuff you're bringing up (and your more metal songs that I've heard) is closer to these guys that most metal from the last two decades. In fact, Ozzy said that Sleep was the band that best continued the Sabbath sound.

If you want just a list of incredible metal bands, here's a start:

Burzum
Darkthrone
Today Is the Day
Wormed
Judas Iscariot
Grief
Inquisition
Immortal
Gorgoroth
Gorguts

PS. That new Celtic Frost is really good. New Slayer is a waste of time (IMO, obviously).

WeaselSlayer · Post by **WeaselSlayer** » Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:24 pm

My own ammendments to that list would be:

dISEMBOWELMENT
Venom (Welcome to Hell and Black Metal)
Pig Destroyer/Agoraphobic Nosebleed
Harvey Milk
Speedealer
Saint Vitus/The Obsessed/The Hidden Hand (Wino!!!)
Neurosis
Drudkh
Bedemon/Pentagram
Buzzov*en
Melvins (primarily Bullhead)
Earth (initially recommended to me by Jute, matter-o-fact)

edit - old Sepultura as well, I don't give a shit how bad Soulfly ended up being, Chaos A.D. is fucking great.

fodroy · Post by **fodroy** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 12:49 pm

WeaselSlayer wrote:Ps, pick up the Dethklok Dethalbum. The metal community should be embarassed as hell that a comedian is responsible for one of the best metal releases I've heard in ages.

Yes.

Also, Salvation (from Indianapolis) and the Cocaine Wolves (Muncie) are fucking awesome.

rone rivendale · Post by **rone rivendale** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:17 am

I appoligize for necroposting (it's only a month) but I was reading this topic for the first time and I got a band that no one else mentioned.

I have really enjoyed Nightwish lately. It's Symphonic Metal. If you don't mind a female lead singer they are awesome. One song in particular called The Kinslayer has this 40 second instrumental that begins the song that I love to death.