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Do you pronounce it "lee-tray"? Because that's what I think when I see litre.

frankie big face wrote:

roymond wrote:

BoffoYux wrote:I had a quick technical question - I thought the song title didn't have to be in the song lyrics, but the subject matter needed to be addressed as well as the challenge. Am I off in this assumption?

There's no rule about the song title being in the lyrics. But don't make it too obtuse or you'll end up defending yourself in the boards. And you saw where that got Frankie.

I don't get your reference.

Yeah, the one that really got bitten by that sentiment was Bram.

Anyways, BYD, you don't need to actually SAY the title in your lyrics, but if nobody can figure out the connection, they'll count off.

Caravan Ray wrote:

BoffoYux wrote:I had a quick technical question - I thought the song title didn't have to be in the song lyrics, but the subject matter needed to be addressed as well as the challenge. Am I off in this assumption?

No - you are correct.

And IMHO - since the repetition of the title can sometimes become annoying over 20+ songs - it is often a good idea to avoid using the title in the lyrics where possible

This is an interesting area, the idea appears to be that the title of the song should be "Colour Blind," there is no prescribed subject matter for the song. It has been historically true that the title need not be in the song, and overuse can be irritating, as C Ray points out above. But i know at least one of the judges has preferred, in Song Fight! proper, to have the title in the words, i think i have even lost his vote for that reason in the past. So keep in mind that every judge has their own rankings and their own standards for the role of the title in the creation of the song. That having been said, it is nice that a few of the judges were quick to chime in with responses to your question. And i'm not a judge, so if you wish, you can ignore this post completely.

Nur Ein!

Caravan Ray wrote: I really hope Paco and Jon have not tried to slip any porkies past me in my current ignorance of their subject matter. Rest assured, I will be researching every line thoroughly. They wont get away with anything.

Full disclosure, then:
I used several forms of names that were either inconsistent or not particularly common, and I took certain "facts" that are probable but not certain and stated them as definite fact.

Tikal only probably dispatched a team to investigate.
Yax K'uk Mo' only probably married into nobility to become the first King of Copán.
The town of Oxwitik was only probably the municipality that my song is about. As such, it's uncommon for archaeologists to refer to it as Oxwitik; everyone just calls it by its Spanish name, Copán.
Tikal and Quirigua are both Spanish names, whereas elsewhere I used Mayan names.
Uaxaclajuun Ub'aah K'awiil only probably installed K'ak' Tiliw Chan Yopaat.
Uaxaclajuun Ub'aah K'awiil is rarely referred to by his natural Mayan name (probably because it's so unwieldly, as I learned the hard way whilst singing this number), and he would certainly never be referred to as "K'awiil," as I do near the end of the end of verse 2. He is referred to in mosts texts nowadays by the English translation of his name, "18 Rabbit."
There's no evidence that 18 Rabbit was killed as a ritual human sacrifice. However, it's indisputable that K'ak Tiliw Chan Yopat decapitated him.

Other than that, I'm pretty sure I'm square-on.

I thought that was the case. We usually toss out the first few ideas on a challenge as the obvious path others will take, and go down a different way. We might lose points on being obtuse, but gain them for originality. Plus I'd rather try to plow some new ground if possible.

Generic wrote: Full disclosure, then:
... I took certain "facts" that are probable but not certain and stated them as definite fact.

That is acceptable. In fact - I think it is preferable. We want no probables in a singalong chorus.

Generic wrote:"18 Rabbit."
There's no evidence that 18 Rabbit was killed as a ritual human sacrifice. However, it's indisputable that K'ak Tiliw Chan Yopat decapitated him.

18 Rabbit = Bandname.

Caravan Ray wrote:

glenra wrote:

Caravan Ray wrote:Glen Raphael
Major mark down for use of imperial quantities. The world is metric sonny. Move with it. Be this a warning to anyone else who tries to use non-SI units in a song. It is unacceptable. Otherwise, a solid effort that did not grab me particularly.

Yeah, but you try fitting "5.6 liters" into a song lyric...

-Glen

It's "litres". Not "liters".

Now you're just being mean.