I've said this before but I'll say it again, it seems pretty uncool to penalize people like that
well, how can i give people credit for something that i can't understand and can't read? would you give credit for good music if somebody didn't turn in an mp3?
anyway i'm the judge. i get to decide my scoring criteria
also, let me quote the FAQ: "Song Fight requires a modicum of resourcefulness." so does nur ein.
Re: Nur Ein XIX Round Zero- "For Your Consideration"
how can i give people credit for something that i can't understand and can't read?
The issue isn't the scoring criteria. It's letting the contestants know what the scoring criteria is at the time the challenge/contest is initiated unless it has already been clearly stated.
Re: Nur Ein XIX Round Zero- "For Your Consideration"
how can i give people credit for something that i can't understand and can't read?
The issue isn't the scoring criteria. It's letting the contestants know what the scoring criteria is at the time the challenge/contest is initiated unless it has already been clearly stated.
There's no way for the contestants to know about ANY judges scoring criteria though atm. Not unless Niv wants to post something on the main Nur Ein site when the first challenge goes up. 1 judge may hate soft rock, another might be anti uke, it's just part of the luck factor.
Re: Nur Ein XIX Round Zero- "For Your Consideration"
Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 9:09 pm
by Cybronica
If nothing else, it might be worth putting a link to the lyric thread on the nur ein site for posterity, along with the caveat that you might have to email someone to get approved to join the boards?
Any, I somehow managed to make it in, despite losing my entire file along with my computer. I got an IMO pretty awesome stripped down version recorded in the last two hours. Now to sleep…
Re: Nur Ein XIX Round Zero- "For Your Consideration"
Posted: Sun May 12, 2024 9:14 pm
by ujnhunter
Lots of complaining going on already... guess it's NUR EIN TIME! The Ujn Corporation is in. Acoustic/Electric Guitar & Drums in case it's not obvious. Good luck, Judges.
Re: Nur Ein XIX Round Zero- "For Your Consideration"
well, how can i give people credit for something that i can't understand and can't read? would you give credit for good music if somebody didn't turn in an mp3?
anyway i'm the judge. i get to decide my scoring criteria
also, let me quote the FAQ: "Song Fight requires a modicum of resourcefulness." so does nur ein.
I didn't mean to come across as if I were telling you how to judge or rank the songs. Sorry if I came across that way. Personally I too would want to have the written lyrics in case I couldn't understand them all from hearing them. I was trying to make a point about the tournament and about giving everyone the same chance to provide lyrics. A contestant who's not already an active board member could try their best to get their lyrics posted when and where and how you want, but still have something completely out of their control delay their lyrics being visible until after the judges have submitted their rankings. I don't think it's fair to penalize people for something that's out of their control, especially when that penalty is only a potential issue for some of the contestants and not for others.
If lyrics are required by even at least one judge, a simple one sentence change to the Nur Ein instructions could help make sure there is a level playing field for submitting lyrics, like changing this:
When a competitor completes a song, it is to be e-mailed to nurein.sidefight which is a Gmail address.
... to this:
When a competitor completes a song, the song and its lyrics are to be e-mailed to nurein.sidefight which is a Gmail address.
And to "go the extra mile" if somebody doesn't submit their lyrics with their song, you could reply and ask them to send the lyrics. (If they don't do it after that, that's on them.)
Re: Nur Ein XIX Round Zero- "For Your Consideration"
Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 6:48 am
by BoffoYux
Listening Party link for tonight -
Nur Ein 19 Round 0 Monday 5/13 - 9pm EST
'For Your Consideration'
Lots of complaining going on already... guess it's NUR EIN TIME! The Ujn Corporation is in. Acoustic/Electric Guitar & Drums in case it's not obvious. Good luck, Judges.
To expand on what our CEO previously posted, I would note that the Ujn Corporation also made use of electric and electronic bass in order to round out the scope of our Round Zero offering. Please be aware that the company's public position is that electric bass should be classified as an acoustic instrument, as the method of sound generation falls under the category of acoustic vibrations. On review, Legal noted that that our interpretation was in conflict with the interpretation endorsed by the regulatory commission, and thus we declined to make any bass-related claims publicly. That said, an ad-hoc has been formed to consider drafting a white paper should this point need further adjudication.
Re: Nur Ein XIX Round Zero- "For Your Consideration"
Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 9:41 pm
by Caravan Ray
I sang the words “acoustic guitar” and “electric guitar” in the lyrics. The instructions just said these had to be included. Not actually played or anything.
But I did play them too. Do I get double points?
Re: Nur Ein XIX Round Zero- "For Your Consideration"
I sang the words “acoustic guitar” and “electric guitar” in the lyrics. The instructions just said these had to be included. Not actually played or anything.
But I did play them too. Do I get double points?
If I was a judge I'd have given double points if you said them, but didn't use them. Seems like you didn't really believe in your strat by having the backup plan. ;p Glad you did use the guitars though, because it was catchy as hell.
Re: Nur Ein XIX Round Zero- "For Your Consideration"
Posted: Tue May 14, 2024 10:20 pm
by HeuristicsInc
i wrote some reviews! is this the right place for them?
Balance - i like the second chorus higher after. And the interplay of all the guitars is really nice. The vocals sound good and understated. A bit repetitive but i like it.
Bss - the chirpy thing makes me happy (though it’s a little loud for the mix). I do like these lyrics, especially the last verse.
Bluechip - i like the organ lead there and the drumbeat is good. The vocals aren’t real clear and i don’t see any posted lyrics unfortunately. The groove is groovy tho. Nice backing vox.
Brown – love the bop bop bits. The chorus shines here.
Cave - catchy. Interesting the lyrical theme is somewhat common. Like the words tho.
Chew - the instrumental break is great. And the second one is even better.
Cybronica - gotta try to get past my genre bias. The “is this enough” parts are really good. Also the vocal layerings sound good. Good lyrics.
Fbf - nice! I enjoy a lot about this. Catchy, good vocals - oh i love the extra vocal effect used in spots here, a nice touch. Love the last verse.
Glennny - digging the electronic percussion bits.
Heid - i like this lyrical theme about the lentils and louder than the guns. At first I wasn’t excited but this one is growing on me. The accordion (?) is nice too.
Hjo - interesting use of different vocal styles. What is up with this bandname, by the way? I dig that line with all the internal rhymes.
Hot - sounds awful. The political stuff and the arson, i mean. This is another one where i wasn’t keen on it on first listen, but doing it again while reading along i like it a lot more.
Kama - written with the cat’s collaboration hah. Nice ending.
Max - catchy! Love the lyrics and the chorus rocks. This is great. Excellent line : “They can copy works but not your art”.
Mecha - hey aren’t you from fawm? Welcome! no , i don’t think there’s a rule to use the title as a lyric as long as it makes sense for that to be the title. This one is interesting, doesn’t hold together that well, but there’s interesting stuff going on especially when you start wailing about. I like your lyrics tho.
Moss - the vocals are really good here. Interestingly the music is better in the verse than the chorus.
Pig - the chorus shines. The verses lose some in comparison.
Spin - hey my son used to play hypixel a lot. Kudos for adding the video (it doesn’t fit into my scoring scheme tho?!). The chorus works well, though you lose some scansion there.
Starf - love the weird noises. That bit that goes along with “in the yard” is very cool. Turds haha. And the dog barks are a nice touch. Love it.
Friends - really nice music, whazat thing is real nice. Some of the vocals sound like they’re clipping. Interesting stuff going on here. Giving you a bump up for the outro.
Tlb - that echoed synth is really nice. Lots going on here that is good, like the chorus, and the replacing of the sounds, and the lyrics.
Ujn - nice rhythm thing going on there. That arpeg synth is great. I like this vocal style. Great. Somewhat odd way to end.
Vv - love that intro synth. Nice rhymes. I dig this.
14 - those sounds in the intro are pretty great. In the middle it seems to get lost a bit. The outro is really nice too.
Re: Nur Ein XIX Round Zero- "For Your Consideration"
i wrote some reviews! is this the right place for them?
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Cybronica - gotta try to get past my genre bias. The “is this enough” parts are really good. Also the vocal layerings sound good. Good lyrics.
Bless you! Many thanks for taking the time to write these out. I’m glad you liked (parts of) my song! I had to rerecord everything on my phone in the two hours before midnight because my composter decide Sunday was it’s time to go into the great beyond. Very pleased the vocal layering came out as well as it did. I’m also pretty sure, based on the first two songs, this years nur ein is going to be a concept album that airs my grievances with the opera industry, so genre bias abounds! You’re allowed to not like it, lol, but I hope you find something good from it!
Re: Nur Ein XIX Round Zero- "For Your Consideration"
Posted: Wed May 15, 2024 1:06 pm
by ujnhunter
Just out of curiosity, when are the Judges scores and such due? I thought I knew from last year... but... perhaps not. Or... is Round 0 non-scored if there are 25 or less entrants? I can't view nure.in from this computer... so perhaps they're already up, just not posted here yet?
Re: Nur Ein XIX Round Zero- "For Your Consideration"
It translates from Icelandic as "Geisli's mobile home". Geisli apparently translates as - "beam, ray (of light, etc.)"
If I make it to the next round my next song will be recorded in Reykjavik. I fly there on Tuesday. I've been listening to a lot of Sigur Rós - let's see if it rubs off.
Re: Nur Ein XIX Round Zero- "For Your Consideration"
Posted: Thu May 16, 2024 8:52 am
by HeuristicsInc
i'll look forward to sigur ros stylings from you then!
Re: Nur Ein XIX Round Zero- "For Your Consideration"
Mecha - hey aren’t you from fawm? Welcome! no , i don’t think there’s a rule to use the title as a lyric as long as it makes sense for that to be the title. This one is interesting, doesn’t hold together that well, but there’s interesting stuff going on
Yes, nice to see you here. I think we were paired for the random collab this year's FAWM and I gave you some snowy driving lyrics. I am a long time FAWMer, short time SpinTuna, but never have tried SongFight or Nur Ein. I decided to take a swing at Nur Ein essentially at 9:30 pm EDT the Sunday that the song was due, so all criticism duly noted and approved.
Wanted to explicitly say thank you for posting reviews, and also to post a thank to all the judges for taking the time to score the songs and review; I know it can be a big commitment, and I appreciate it.
The Ujn Corporation is in. Acoustic/Electric Guitar & Drums in case it's not obvious. Good luck, Judges.
