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jimtyrrell · Post by **jimtyrrell** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:13 pm

The weird Northeast, where the air doesn't NEED conditioning.

Note: This comment makes considerably less sense when leading off a new page.

jack · Post by **jack** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:40 pm

i've always liked roy's idea and hope that might still materialize.

and atlanta is a cool town, if not in temperature in august. find us something in buckhead.

and there's sven's offer of bumfuck, canada.

(which i personally like. not bumfucks but canada)

but wherever it is, i hope to make it somehow.

Caravan Ray · Post by **Caravan Ray** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:46 pm

Unlikely I'll be making it back in '07 - though one never knows - and a Canadian venue would certainly be attractive (and for all intents and purposes - I am counting Vermont as Canada too).

Atlanta sounds a bit too much like Brisbane. If I want to spend time in a stinking, hot, humid city full of rednecks*, I don't need to cross the Pacific to do it - it's right at my front door!

(*NB: That may not be entirely appropriate - I must confess, my entire knowledge of the demographics and socialogical make-up of the US' Southern states comes from watching The Dukes of Hazard. I was actually very disappointed to learn that JB didn't sound anything like Sherriff Rosco P Coltrane. Or even Boss Hogg. And I only saw him wearing long trousers, so I didn't get a chance to compare his legs to Daisy's)

Dan-O from Five-O · Post by **Dan-O from Five-O** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:09 pm

Caravan Ray wrote:That may not be entirely appropriate - I must confess, my entire knowledge of the demographics and socialogical make-up of the US' Southern states comes from watching The Dukes of Hazard.

It's not that far off the mark.

Seriously.

Caravan Ray wrote:I was actually very disappointed to learn that JB didn't sound anything like Sherriff Rosco P Coltrane.

That's because he is a transplant. He's originally (at least to my knowledge) from Pennsylvania.

Anyway, to actually Add to this discussion I will remind everyone that Indianapolis is the "Crossroads of America". Fairly centrally located, metropollitan like Hotlanta but without the high(er) crime rate, and perhaps (although I will admit it's hit or miss) not as hot in August. Maybe not as attractive as a barn, but I know this guy that has a pretty nice multi-level deck that's kind of appealing and set right on the river. I also might be able to work some actual venues, as in bar type venues.

erik · Post by **erik** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 3:32 am

Atlanta.

That is a city that I actually want to visit.

ken · Post by **ken** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 9:13 am

If we meet in Atlanta, can we do it earlier in the summer? June perhaps when it is a little cooler? Otherwise, heat isn't really a reason to avoid a city. Austin and Boston were both plenty hot and humid.

Ken

Post by jb » Thu Dec 21, 2006 9:22 am

I would schedule it when the group wants to come.

My own personal summer schedule usually involves a trip to SFL, so that time and that expense would go into hosting it instead.

<a href="http://www.weather.com/outlook/events/w ... 28">Here's a summer temperature comparison between Atlanta and Austin</a>

fluffy · Post by **fluffy** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 9:35 am

Austin wasn't exactly comfortable either.

Bjam · Post by **Bjam** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 1:56 pm

89 in July? That's not that hot. PA gets hotter than that in the height of summer. And, as you said, air conditioning.

Caravan Ray · Post by **Caravan Ray** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 3:16 pm

Bjam wrote:89 in July? That's not that hot. PA gets hotter than that in the height of summer. And, as you said, air conditioning.

Depends on the humidity. I used to live in Mt Isa on the edge of the Simpson desert. It was always nicer there when it was 113 F (45 C) and 0% humidity, than it is in Brisbane at 89 F (32 C) and 100% humidity.

Dan-O from Five-O · Post by **Dan-O from Five-O** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 4:57 pm

I love it when people bring up the humidity factor, like when they say Arizona is a dry heat. Dry heat, WTF does that mean anyway? I was in Arizona in July a couple of years ago and the average high temperature that week was about 110. Seriously, that was the average. It felt hot to me. There were these hanginig hoses everywhere with little holes poked in them to spray you down with water to "cool" you off. I don't think it helped at all. You could stand under them for an hour and be out from under them for like 3 seconds and be completely dry. If you looked closely enough you could actually see the water being pulled away from your body into the air as if the air itself was dying for a drink.

Tell you what if anyone really thinks that humidity is that big of a factor go run your oven up to about 110 and stick your head in there. That's a dry heat right? Now lower it to 85 and put a bowl of water in there for a while. Was the waterless 110 really better than the humidified 85?

Of course, through some freak of nature thing I don't have any pores to sweat through so maybe that's the issue for me. I'm kidding of course, I have pores, I just don't sweat all that much. Come to think of it heat doesn't really bother me all that much either.

What was I on about? Oh Yeah......

Atlanta works for me. Maybe I could use it as a landing point on my way to see some friends in Florida anyway.

fluffy · Post by **fluffy** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 5:28 pm

Do you have an oven which goes down that low? Strange.

Caravan Ray · Post by **Caravan Ray** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 5:34 pm

Dan-O from Five-O wrote: Tell you what if anyone really thinks that humidity is that big of a factor go run your oven up to about 110 and stick your head in there. That's a dry heat right? Now lower it to 85 and put a bowl of water in there for a while. Was the waterless 110 really better than the humidified 85?

I've spent a significant chunk of my life living and working on equatorial atolls and in tropical rainforests, as well as in tropical deserts and semi-arid areas. Trust me - humidity is a factor.

Here's another experiment. Heat your oven to 212 F and put your hand in for 2 seconds. Then plunge your other hand into boiling water. See which feels better.

adrift in a draft · Post by **adrift in a draft** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 8:33 pm

SF Live 07 Atlanta global and warming

erik · Post by **erik** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 5:17 am

I love it when people ignore science.

Humidity exists, and affects your body's ability to cool itself.

frankie big face · Post by **frankie big face** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 7:04 am

If the temperature and humidity are your number one and two factors in determining whether or not to attend a live SF event, I would recommend you stay home. Most of you never leave the (air-conditioned) practice area anyway.

Plus it's December. I don't know why Bjam thought now was a good time to generate this conversation, but it seems awfully early to be talking about this. But since we are, I'll put in my vote for Atlanta so I can see JB's new house, root against the Braves in their own back yard and be relatively assured that Hoblit will be present.

fluffy · Post by **fluffy** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 11:20 pm

Proposed Atlanta title:
Song Fight Live: Rum and Coke

GlennCase · Post by **GlennCase** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 11:51 pm

If the marriage takes place at the same time as Songfight Live, this year's theme is a GIVEN.

Songfight Live: John and Jessica.

That is all.

ROCK!

Glenn Case

Caravan Ray · Post by **Caravan Ray** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 10:16 pm

frankie big face wrote: Plus it's December. I don't know why Bjam thought now was a good time to generate this conversation, but it seems awfully early to be talking about this.

No, Bjam's timing is entirely appropriate. International participants require as much lead time as possible.

roymond · Post by **roymond** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 3:32 am

Caravan Ray wrote:
Dan-O from Five-O wrote: Tell you what if anyone really thinks that humidity is that big of a factor go run your oven up to about 110 and stick your head in there. That's a dry heat right? Now lower it to 85 and put a bowl of water in there for a while. Was the waterless 110 really better than the humidified 85?
Here's another experiment. Heat your oven to 212 F and put your hand in for 2 seconds. Then plunge your other hand into boiling water. See which feels better.

Song Fight! Live 2007 - Darwin doesn't live here anymore.

MintyHandy · Post by **MintyHandy** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:47 pm

You know, what we need more of is science.

But you already knew that.

starfinger · Post by **starfinger** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 6:22 am

atlanta would be good.

i would also like to sing the praises of chattanooga (seriously), but I don't currently have the wherewithall to actually organize anything. definitely a location to consider in a couple years.

-craig