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Heather. Redmon. wrote:
Ben Foxworthy wrote: The Hell Yeahs
Hell yeah! Cuts out after a few seconds.
Thanks for attempting to review! Here's a link to the full song until the fightmasters fix it:

http://www.tartpop.com/tunes/the_hell_y ... _april.mp3
Cool. In that case:

The Hell Yeahs
I love your voice. This song has a lot of energy, which is awesome. You could have even upped the tempo a little. But, I think a really energetic song like this needs a REALLY strong chorus to stick with me, and you don't have that. I think your sound is a little muddled, but it's hard to tell whether that's poor instrument sounds or just poor recording... probably some of each. Reminds me of White Stripes a little bit. Nitpick: I hate how you drawl out the beginning of "front" sometimes. It grates me.
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jackfrost wrote:"Ben Foxworthy" said:
The Weakest Suit
I really like, "Evil April makes the circle of life," it's the catchiest thing I've heard on here so far.

The lyrics (and chords) show up in my Windows Media Player.
They are actually "Evil April breaks the circle of life and love."
It's hinted in the lyrics that she likes girls.
Hmm, I don't really approve of the homophobia. Regardless, I meant the melody, not the lyrics.
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Post by Heather. Redmon. »

Ben Foxworthy wrote:
Heather. Redmon. wrote:
Ben Foxworthy wrote: The Hell Yeahs
Hell yeah! Cuts out after a few seconds.
Thanks for attempting to review! Here's a link to the full song until the fightmasters fix it:

http://www.tartpop.com/tunes/the_hell_y ... _april.mp3
Cool. In that case:

The Hell Yeahs
I love your voice. This song has a lot of energy, which is awesome. You could have even upped the tempo a little. But, I think a really energetic song like this needs a REALLY strong chorus to stick with me, and you don't have that. I think your sound is a little muddled, but it's hard to tell whether that's poor instrument sounds or just poor recording... probably some of each. Reminds me of White Stripes a little bit. Nitpick: I hate how you drawl out the beginning of "front" sometimes. It grates me.
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Ben Foxworthy wrote:
jackfrost wrote:"Ben Foxworthy" said:
The Weakest Suit
I really like, "Evil April makes the circle of life," it's the catchiest thing I've heard on here so far.

The lyrics (and chords) show up in my Windows Media Player.
They are actually "Evil April breaks the circle of life and love."
It's hinted in the lyrics that she likes girls.
Hmm, I don't really approve of the homophobia. Regardless, I meant the melody, not the lyrics.
EDIT: I contacted this guy via his myspace page, and he was kind enough to write back.
"I tried to set up an account on this board to respond to these ridiculous accusations that I submitted some kind of homophobic song, but I haven't recieved my confirmation email yet, so I'm passing this along to someone from myspace to pass along to you message board people.
I am upset that my song is being misinterpreted as some kind of homophobic rant. It is not that at all. It's a sarcastic tune about a guy liking a girl who is a lesbian, and calls her "evil" because she is denying him and all guys the pleasure of ever screwing her (thus making babies = circle of life). Wasn't Weezer's "Pink Triangle" about the same thing?"


This is me again...lots of great songs this week. I'm going to have to listen to them a lot more before I can make coherent comments.
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Ben Foxworthy wrote:Wages
This reminds me of the last song I submitted, where I wrote it all at 2am the night before and it was just kind of dumb/funny. But, at the same time, some parts seem to be well-written. So, I'm not really sure what to think. Maybe you wrote it at 2AM, and then refined parts of it the next day. Schitzophrenia is a mental illness, it's not the same as being evil - some people would be offended by that. Overall it's not that good, but not that bad.
Schizophrenia, or as some call it Schitzophrenia, is indeed NOT evil. :lol: But to some, it is "the appearance of evil" or a symbol of evil, right or wrong. Of course I wasn't thinking that philosophically when I wrote the lyric, but I was thinking (if you could call it that) in the "bigoted" sense, for which I apologize.

Actually, I started writing it the morning before the morning of the dew [sic] date (about 30 minutes), finished writing it at lunch (another 45 minutes or so), and "polished" and recorded it at night (about 2 hours). Remixed slighted the morning it was dew and submitted it. As I said in the pre-fight, I had no plan to write a song for Evil April, but I just got my acoustic back from being a loaner (Yes, I have a left handed friend...three in fact!) and the tune just came out.

The reviews so far are more favorable than my other recent entries. This is encouraging!
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Ben Foxworthy wrote about The Weakest Suit:
Hmm, I don't really approve of the homophobia. Regardless, I meant the melody, not the lyrics.

Ben Foxworthy wrote about Wages:
Schitzophrenia is a mental illness, it's not the same as being evil - some people would be offended by that.
What's the deal? Are you trying to get everyone to hate all the other songs through unfounded insinuations? Nobody called anyone a "nappy-headed ho". So chill, OK?
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Ben Foxworthy wrote:... I don't really approve .... some people would be offended by that.
I agree, art should never offend anyone in jest or otherwise. it should be vanilla and calming. mean people suck. and disco rulez
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MintyHandy wrote: Biharmonic Plus
Kind of whiny, kind of boring, but you're on-tempo and on-pitch, and for me that's 50% of the battle. Next time, don't sing in such a wishy-washy way; this needed to be screamed, or at least grunted, and if you ignore the dull-as-dishwater guitar, the chorus worked quite well.
thanks for the advice and the encouragement.
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thanks for the review. and the comparison to the beach boys. sort of hahha
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Oh wow, your voice is really not very good. Sorry.
lol sorry. i'll try something else next time.
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Eric B - So you got your midi hooked up or what? Makes a big difference.
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jackfrost wrote:What's the deal? Are you trying to get everyone to hate all the other songs through unfounded insinuations? Nobody called anyone a "nappy-headed ho". So chill, OK?
Now you're making "unfounded insinuations" about my motives. With "Lesbian April" I honestly thought he was being intentionally anti-gay. My mistake. With "Shizo April" I was pointing out something that seemed accidentally insensitive - it was constructive criticism. He didn't seem to feel like I was attacking him, so why do you have to jump in and make me seem like a bad guy?

Weakest Suit guy - ok, I believe you. But it definitely sounded like you were saying lesbians are evil... I don't think it was unreasonable for me to interpret the lyrics that way. Sorry for misunderstanding.

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I have a Casio keyboard and a hip-hop drum/beat machine. I don't use MIDI. Sometimes I create the beat 100% on the drum machine (like for King Me and Ten Lies), and sometimes I first record something on the Casio and then later add sounds from the drum machine to make it more hip-hop (or less Casio sounding), like I did with Evil April.
rdurand wrote:Eric B - So you got your midi hooked up or what? Makes a big difference.
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yadda yadda yadda reviews

Antisoc: ack! no no no! stop that. Keys? Drum machine? Rap? Three strikes, you GOTS TO GO!
But was it all let out?
No, not at all let out.

Back Street Blumpkins II Men: I don't know what to make of this. Certainly not my style. Technically seems to be recorded, performed (except for out of key vocals) and mixed alright. I don't know if this is up to par for its genre. No grade. Rectum? Damn near killed 'em!
But was it all let out?
Yes, if we mean the disturbing bugaboos of your adolescent psyche. Freud would have a field day.

Gammamananarama: Programmed drums, no? Strike one. Keys? Stee-rike two. Certainly less well put together than the BSB2M in roughly the same genre, minus the chocolate starfishes and whatnot. Sorry dude, you just lost to the dude obsessed with the velvet goldmine.
But was it all let out?
I'm not sure there was much it to let out.

Wait, Freud DID have a field day. Fuck me running.

Zipline: Hooray, guitars, real drums. Is there too much echo/verb on the vocal or is that room noise? I might like the vocals down a little in the mix, but otherwise I'm kinda digging this. Great dual guitars, nicely panned. Great tracking, performance and mix. Composition is intriguing; it's nice to hear something this unpredictable, but it seems to move on its own internal logic. Definitely a keeper, worth a few more listens to sort it all out.
But was it all let out?
Sounds like Martyr was selling the vocals pretty hard, and Glenny demonstrates how us other guitaristas are bunch of wankers. Much, if not quite all, was let out. Bravo.

Melvin: Normally I live in mortal fear of Melvin's pop hooks, but coming after Zipline in my random order this week's Melvin seems like a bit of a letdown. Nice thick, wall of guitar (certainly not a complaint!), but perhaps not a lot of rhythmic or melodic interest. Vocals straying too much into the modern "alternative" Blink182, LinkinPark territory I so despise. Melvin proves mortal after all.
But was it all let out?
No, and given my expectations, I was all let down :(

Fart: What the hell is WRONG with you people! JeebusFlushingCrisisOnAPogoStick! Arrggh!!
But was it all let out?
Obvious joke withheld.

MC Eric B: Ick, Casiotone rhythm with fake irritating guitar patch. Automatic DQ. At least this is a bit more involved and more complex than your other stuff, which is sort of like being the world's tallest midget.
But was it all let out?
Nope.

Biharmonic Plus: Starts OK with a lazy guitar figure, which I liked, but damnitalltohell if it isn't programmed drum. I was hoping the vocals would settle into something like the Bats, but they sort of get lost pitchwise and stylistically. It sounds like you're one register higher than your range; you might be able to pull this off an octave lower? The doubled vocals just compound the problems, I think. The drum is killing me. The guitar work doesn't hold up for the entire song; I'd like to see it thicken up and do something else during at least part of the song. Recording seemed ok, mix was kinda inconsistent on levels [hint, turn the faders on the drums to 0%].
But was it all let out?
My rant on programmed drums? Yes, thank you, it was.

Jolly Roger: I find this kind of speed whatever really boring, so this isn't going to do it for me. The dronecore stuff doesn't either. Why the silly vocal effects? It seems deriguer these day for this kind of sludgy dark metalic stuff, and it seems cliche, tedious and worn-out.
But was it all let out?
No, it was safely by-the-numbers, metal style.

The Weakest Suit: Nice mid-60's pop groove, perhaps revisited by an 80's retro Paisley Underground type band such as Rain Parade. Nice guitar and bass. Drums need to come up a lot, IMO. Relative levels need work. Stereo image seems fairly biased to the guitar on the left; the bass or vocals probably needs to pull the right for balance and to keep them off each other, but the EQ seems to keep everything from fighting. Lyrics seem a bit pedestrian (the bits I'm picking up), but who listens anyhow?
But was it all let out?
Quite the opposite; this is rather tightly buttoned up.

Ben Foxworthy: There's a lot of clicking/pick-noise on the guitar, no? So distracting. Faster than your stereotypical HBoYaW, but it's dude singing and strumming open chords nonetheless, and I don't have much interest in that.
But was it all let out?
Not that I can tell.

Tam Lin Music: Technically well tracked, performed, and mixed, yet this holds no interest for me at all.
But was it all let out?
Nope, this was very Adult Contemporary.

Wages: I think I'm already on the record re:Grunge Ballads. Guitar is well played and recorded, albiet a bit distant. Not so bad, just not my thing.
But was it all let out?
No, and perhaps it should have been. The genre sort of begs for an over-the-top dude yodeling like a cat in heat, Chris Cornell with a belly full of bird-shot kind of coda.

signboy: Nicely played, tracked, and mixed. I don't know about the sleepy vocals. I think this would work a bit better with more sense of urgency and less constrained vocal delivery. You should be singing this like you just shot Chris Cornell in the belly with birdshot and hope nobody got your license plate. One of the better entries this week so far, though.
But was it all let out?
I wish it had been. Oh the missed potential.

Urban Mail: Better than most this week, if only because nothing played.
But was it all let out?
No. Perhaps letting out an MP3 would have helped? ;)

db Collective: This could have been a nice groove if it could have brought out and defined the guitars better. As it is there seems to be a lot of mush in the low-mid frequencies. The vocals are too nice and controlled; give it some growl and loosen it up a bit and think this could be an effective cross-genre rock and soul piece. I liked this a lot better than I would expect given the vocal style.
But was it all let out?
If only.

Ham No Burger: Grunge Ballad. meh. Vocals are way too high in the mix during the first verse, and especially the chorus (by a factor of two, at least), but seem to settle into the mix better later in the song. Good performance and tracking on the backing. Composition and lyrics are fairly conventional. I just don't like stamping-it-out-by-the-numbers. Take a swig or two of what Zipline's been imbibing and you might have my interest.
But was it all let out?
In a word, "Not Particularly"

Renwick: This is missing a bass, no? It starts off sounding like it might be interesting, but the opening bit goes on way too long and repetitive. Once this gets going it veers into somewhat conventional mid-90's post-Nirvana "alternative" and seems like a stew of a lot of stock riffs and bridges.
But was it all let out?
I don't think so.

Hostess Mostess: Very earnest dude with a guitar. Very earnest double-tracked dude with a guitar. Ok, and a piano. And a electric piano or something. Somebody's been listening to Smile. Well played, tracked, mixed. I can't say I particularly like it, but I sure do respect it. You have overcome my cynical biases, damn you.
But was it all let out?
It's safe to say that an "it" of a very curious nature was let out. Lots, if not all.

Kill Me Sarah: Ixnay on the ogrammedpray umdrays, svp. There are parts of this I really like and others are really grating on me, such as that synth wash. The mix seems kind of disjointed in a way I can't fully pin down.
But was it all let out?
Survey SAYS: XXX [aaawww :(]

The Hell Yeahs: For a straight-ahead girl-rocker, this is not bad, but the lo-fi engineering effect and deliberately bad vocal style pulls this too far into genre exercise for me. Well performed, otherwise.
But was it all let out?
Dude was rockin', chicky was squawking, so I'd say there wasn't much that wasn't let out.

Destruction Enterprise: The world does not need another MC Eric B.
But was it all let out?
How about, "no", ok?

Ross Durand: Ok, look, it's 3:10 am and after 20 something songs I'm beginning to get sleepy and I know it sucks to be last in the randomly ordered line-up, but somebody's got to draw the short stick. Well played, tracked, mixed, I guess. It should be no surprise by now that this isn't my kind of thing. Nothing wrong with it on its own terms.
But was it all let out?
*yawn* Huh?


Zipline FTW!

Worthy Foes: signboy, The Weakest Suit, Hostess Brand Mostesses (with cream filling), dbCollective.

Melvin, Wages, Ross, Hell Yeahs take a Mulligan based on past work.

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SteveHandPuppet wrote: Kill Me Sarah: Ixnay on the ogrammedpray umdrays, svp.
Since this was comment seemed to apply to a lot of people for you in this fight, may I ask what you would have us do instead? Those of us without actual drums? Is your problem that they are not real drums, or just that they don't sound like real drums?
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SteveHandPuppet wrote:Ross Durand: Ok, look, it's 3:10 am and after 20 something songs I'm beginning to get sleepy and I know it sucks to be last in the randomly ordered line-up, but somebody's got to draw the short stick. Well played, tracked, mixed, I guess. It should be no surprise by now that this isn't my kind of thing. Nothing wrong with it on its own terms.
yeah this track is pretty much the wrong one to be last at 3 am any way you slice it, your thing or not.
But was it all let out?
"She's not a vampire
She's not a witch
She's something no one knows about
She'll feel that funny feeling in your tummy
She'll slit you down the middle
And she'll let it all out"
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SteveHandPuppet wrote:yadda yadda yadda reviews

... Drum machine?...Programmed drums, no? Strike one...damnitalltohell if it isn't programmed drum... turn the faders on the drums to 0%...


signboy: Nicely played, tracked, and mixed. I don't know about the sleepy vocals. I think this would work a bit better with more sense of urgency and less constrained vocal delivery. You should be singing this like you just shot Chris Cornell in the belly with birdshot and hope nobody got your license plate. One of the better entries this week so far, though.
But was it all let out?
I wish it had been. Oh the missed potential.
Thanks, man. this is probably the highest compliment my programmed drums have ever gotten.
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Kill Me Sarah wrote:
SteveHandPuppet wrote: Kill Me Sarah: Ixnay on the ogrammedpray umdrays, svp.
Since this was comment seemed to apply to a lot of people for you in this fight, may I ask what you would have us do instead? Those of us without actual drums? Is your problem that they are not real drums, or just that they don't sound like real drums?
Fact of life: some people are categorically biased against certain types of music.

I'm pretty much ok with that.
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Much thanks for the feedback, constructive or otherwise. It's at least good to know what formulas work, and which ones don't.

Antisoc - My track, but I'm still going to review it as if I were another person. Drums could be changed up a little more. Vocals are a little off in places. Perhaps a little too meta (listening to Eminem way too much has fried my rap lyric writing skills). Surprisingly, I like my song the best out of the lineup, which is good because I'm usually my harshest critic. I'm not voting for myself, because that would just be wrong.

Backstreet Blumkins II Men - props on the band name, and the track was kinda funny. It was a little dirty for my taste. It was also a little too drawn out.

Benfoxworthy - A++ on the songwriting. The production was slightly lacking. I would love to hear a rendition with some electric guitar as it builds, and maybe some drums. Not saying the song needs that, but it would make it much better. May get my vote.

Biharmonic Plus - I can't understand any of the vocals. I recommend EQ or louder mixing to correct the problem. Harmonies are great. I like the 90s style songwriting. Won't get my vote.

dB Collective - I like the AC/DC style backing vocals. I like the instrumentals. The lyrics are a little boring. The prodution is satisfactory, but has some noticible flaws. Probably won't get my vote.

Destruction Enterprise - Better than Rone by himself. This is a much better beat than I am used to from Rone. Production is somewhat lacking. Vocals could could 1) be quieter 2) have some effects to make them less harsh. I still don't like this song, but I see improvement which deserves a pat on the back. Improvement is always good, but won't get my vote.

Fart - No lyrics? It fits the theme of the fight really well. No lyrics = not getting my vote.

Gammaman - I like the motown sound. Could use some backing vocals like "evilll (evil!)" in a call and answer format. Good songwriting. Could use some serious work to make it more interesting. Probably not getting my vote.

Hamnoburger - Generic sounding grunge rock of the late 90s. I like the sound of it somewhat, but it comes across just as bland now as it did then. I like the way it adds energy on the chorus. Overall, not getting my vote, but the technical mastery is there. Also, I like the fadeout.

The Hell Yeahs - I like the raw sound of it, and the production. Everything sounds pretty good. Great overall effort. Possibly getting my vote.

The Hostess Mostess - The technical skill is there. The songwriting skill is there. I like the prog rock style. It comes across a little bland, so it probably won't get my vote, but once again, good overall effort.

JR - Nice intro, a bit long though. Nice metal sound. Sounds a little disjointed in places. It probably won't get my vote, but nice overall effort.

Kill Me Sarah - I like the sound, vocals are good, could use less reverb on the vocals. I love the organ. Probably won't get my vote, but good effort.

MC Eric B - Improvement is always good. The background track was about as good as you can get with just a Casio and a drum machine. The production was decent (the vocals were somewhat distorted though, which is annoying), and I liked the backing vocals. Probably won't get my vote, but good overall effort. My advice, make yourself a pop filter using pantyhose and a wooden hoop. Cost is about 2-5 depending on expensiveness of the nylons. This advice goes out to anyone who is experiencing pops in the recording.

Melvin - Songwriting is good. Whatever it is that you're doing, keep doing it. May get my vote, I'll have to think about it.

Renwick - The only problem I have with this is the verses are a little bland. Good production, songwriting, talent, etc. This song has about the best production out of the lineup, and if that was the only factor, it would be getting my vote, but alas, it isn't. May get my vote.

Ross Durand - Very interesting to listen to. I like the folk song style that moves into a sort of psycobilly style. This reminded me of the songs we used to sing in school around Halloween. Props for letting it all out, totally caught me by surprise. May very well get my vote.

Signboy - Nice production, good songwriting, good vocals, harmonies, plus it's interesting to listen to. Lyrics are a little bland. Probably won't get my vote, but great overall effort.

Tam Lin Music - Really, I'm trying, but I can't think of anything wrong about this song. It's like a happy Rob Dougan minus the smoker voice and the dark hip-hop beats. It could be juiced up by adding something like backmasking or cryptic lyrics indicative of demon worship or something. But I'm not complaining. It's a solid song that may very well get my vote.

Wages - Not bad. Production could be a little better. Reminds me a little of the Pixies minus drums. Drums would make it better. Worthy effort, but probably won't get my vote.

The Weakest Suit - Nice instrumentation. Vocals, lyrics, and production could all be better. I especially like the guitar solo (bum bu-dah-dah bu-dah-daaaaah). Decent song. Won't get my vote.

Zipline - Nice instrumentation, much respect for the meter changes. Vocals are horrible sounding. It's at least interesting to listen to. Probably won't get my vote, but still quite good. This is actually what I expected all the songs in the fight to sound like.

URBANmail - song download is b0rked.


Honestly, I'm really leaning towards The Hell Yeahs. It was a really good track. Then again, I liked Ross Durand just about as much. I'll have to think about it.
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By the gods!!!!!!!!!!........... URBANmail not working ????we shall try to fix it.................... quickly, well, once im off work at least, hehehe..... :shock:
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MC Eric B- hmm pretty cool. kinda different from your other stuff. Almost could pass as a rock song. deffinatly better than your clause 5 sub paragraph d entry. but not as good as your ten lies song.

Zipline- this is a good song. But i dont really like your voice. slightly annoying.

Ben Foxworthy- awesome song. I like the fact that its not actually about the month 'april', but the character from the ninja turtles. I really like this song, but it is kinda long. But its nice.

Melvin- you guys are sweet man. constantly putting out wicked stuff. great work. I love this.
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TruthAndRegret wrote: Biharmonic Plus - I can't understand any of the vocals. I recommend EQ or louder mixing to correct the problem. Harmonies are great. I like the 90s style songwriting. Won't get my vote.
i dunno if the eq or mixing is the problem cuz i tend to slur when i go high. thanks for the advice though. i'll try changing those next time. thanks for the compliments too. ego boost yay
SteveHandPuppet wrote: Biharmonic Plus: Starts OK with a lazy guitar figure, which I liked, but damnitalltohell if it isn't programmed drum. I was hoping the vocals would settle into something like the Bats, but they sort of get lost pitchwise and stylistically. It sounds like you're one register higher than your range; you might be able to pull this off an octave lower? The doubled vocals just compound the problems, I think. The drum is killing me. The guitar work doesn't hold up for the entire song; I'd like to see it thicken up and do something else during at least part of the song. Recording seemed ok, mix was kinda inconsistent on levels [hint, turn the faders on the drums to 0%].
But was it all let out?
My rant on programmed drums? Yes, thank you, it was.
haha yeah it's just me and i'm not a drummer so i have a hard time making fun loops that don't sound like loops. and you're right; this song was the highest i've ever sung. thanks for the feedback and advice.
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Kill Me Sarah wrote:
SteveHandPuppet wrote: Kill Me Sarah: Ixnay on the ogrammedpray umdrays, svp.
Since this was comment seemed to apply to a lot of people for you in this fight, may I ask what you would have us do instead? Those of us without actual drums? Is your problem that they are not real drums, or just that they don't sound like real drums?
What would I have you do instead?

1. Take it in stride. I try to be fairly upfront about my biases and aesthetics, so there's certain types of music that I personally am not going to like no matter how well done or not it is. The drum machine rants are as much about my tastes as about the music itself. If you are shooting for an aesthetic that runs so far counter to mine, there's not much I can offer, nor is there much way to offer useful advice or criticism. If you are trying to please Steve Hand Puppet, obviously programmed drums and synths are going to be first on my list of complaints and will probably trump any good things about the track.

2. Humanize the drum program. Programmed drums tend to stick out because the beats are too regular in timing, pattern, volume and pitch. There are MIDI humanizing programs, for example, that add variation to the drum program to help make it sound less regular and robotic. These can help. Signboy managed to sneak programmed drums past me; I suspect he used some sort of humanizing or otherwise spent more time tailoring the drum program to throw enough variation and such to better mimic a real drummer.

3. Use drum loops. This is what I use. The downside is that professionally done loops can often sound too regular and clinical, and I've had them mistaken for programmed drums, but these are generally the best approach for non-drummers (unless you are working in a genre that celebrates the robotic drum machine aesthetic, such as techno, electronica, etc.). The other downside is that you may not have suitable loops for a specific drum part you might have in mind, but that's not much different than a non-horn player wanting a specific horn part, except that drums are generally 'non-optional' for most types of music. If your loop library has single hit samples from the same kit as the loops you can program any specific drum sections that don't have suitable loops for (with suitable humanizing), and spend the time making the short, focused programmed bits sound natural and rely on the loops for the bulk of the work.

4. Bring the drums down in the mix. Unless the drums are something to be proud of, there's no reason to emphasize them in the mix.

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