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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:44 pm
by guts.f.uck
d00d, rufus is awesome! I don't know about that beauclerc though. haha no really this shit is great. almost as good as the nunrapers were. BLOOD WERK BLOOD WERK BLOOD WERK !!! you guys are fuckin' great.

Spinlock, what the shit are you doing here? Throw away your nasty 80's douche kit and make some real music.

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:10 pm
by Billy's Little Trip
guts.f.uck wrote: Spinlock, what the shit are you doing here? Throw away your nasty 80's douche kit and make some real music.
A guy puts a bunch of time into a song and he feels proud of his work and this is the only way you know how to say it's not your thing? It's a free country and opinions are like assholes and all that "zany jive", but damn dude. He's doing the same thing here that we are all doing here, making music.
Yeah yeah, I know, I should sit back and let everyone take their punches because it builds character. :roll:

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:31 am
by spinlock
Hey BLT, thanks for the support. It did take a bunch of time and effort to make this, and it's great for someone to notice that.
But it's cool, after all, I was aiming for a Steve Taylor sound here, and the guy was definitely 80's. So that was a bad choice, and it looks like andrew WK would have been a better model. That's useful to know. I hope one day to win a fight, and this all points me in the right direction.

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 5:14 am
by jimtyrrell
I remember Steve Taylor. I had a couple of his albums back in the day.
I'm gonna listen and vote now. But I thought I'd pipe in and suggest that the comments from the blood-soaked guy up there are genre bias and little else. I wouldn't give them much weight, especially when considering which 'direction' your song should take. Keep going in YOUR direction, man. ;)

Hey gutsfuck. Have you recorded anything I can check out? I don't know you, but since your first impression is such a bad one, I'd like to give you an honest shot rather than write you off as a halfwit.

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:15 pm
by Lord of Oats
While I appreciate the support, and never discount a positive review, I can't really get behind gutsfuck's bashing of my competitor, especially with his song being as good as it is. I have no idea what a "nasty 80's douche kit" is, but whatever it is, keep using it. The Rage and I share a love for the music of the 1980's, as shown in this pre-SF masterpiece of his. But in any case, comparing Steve Taylor and Andrew WK is like comparing apples and steak. Neither style is inherently superior to the other. I would not have guessed that you were going for a Steve Taylor sound, but then again, I'm much more familiar with the 90's Steve Taylor, who has more resemblance to Howard Stern than David Bowie, and recorded a much more grunge and much less new wave version of "On The Fritz." Which I can't find. I had the Liver album, but it's disappeared. Damn it. But I love both versions, either way. I like anything by Steve Taylor, anything by Andrew WK, and so far, everything I've heard from Rufus & Beauclerc and Spinlock. Yes, this is a competition, but it's a celebration of music and musicians, regardless of the outcome. Both entries are solid adaptations of two solid styles. If you want to make an Andrew WK song, feel free, but don't do it because you think that's what people want to here. It is a somewhat limiting idiom to work in. We may have exhausted it, already. Steve Taylor (equally adept at new wave suave and hard rock stage dives), you, Mr. Rage, and I all seem to be pretty good musical chameleons, and we'd be foolish not to take advantage of it. Also, I'd like to second the call to hear some music from gutsfuck. Let's see you put your guitar where your mouth is.

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:53 pm
by guts.f.uck
Lord of Oats wrote:While I appreciate the support, and never discount a positive review, I can't really get behind gutsfuck's bashing of my competitor, especially with his song being as good as it is. I have no idea what a "nasty 80's douche kit" is, but whatever it is, keep using it. The Rage and I share a love fo..... No wait I'm an asshole. I actually hate the 80's just like everyone else on earth.
Yeah I'd expect anyone called the LOO (SHOUT OUTS TO ME MATES) to be full of shit. Grow some NADS.

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:35 pm
by Lord of Oats
guts.f.uck wrote:
Lord of Oats wrote:While I appreciate the support, and never discount a positive review, I can't really get behind gutsfuck's bashing of my competitor, especially with his song being as good as it is. I have no idea what a "nasty 80's douche kit" is, but whatever it is, keep using it. The Rage and I share a love fo..... No wait I'm an asshole. I actually hate the 80's just like everyone else on earth.
Yeah I'd expect anyone called the LOO (SHOUT OUTS TO ME MATES) to be full of shit. Grow some NADS.
Oh, are you part of the New Wave of British Shit Metal?

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:03 am
by spinlock
You know, one of the best parts of songfighting is being able to improve and seeing other people improve too. If you want to come with a closed mind, hate an entire decade's worth of music and troll, it doesn't suggest you're going to grow much, musically.
BLT, JimTyrell LoO and Veg's opinions matter, because their music is good, they respect people and review thoughtfully. What a troll thinks doesn't count for anything. Put up or shut up.

Rufus & Beauclerc:
Fun song. I like what you did with the vocals. The wall of sound thing ain't my favourite style but you do it well. Couple of uneasy parts, for example on the transition from the intro to the verse, and the chorus to the verse. The ending is a bit sudden, but overall it's a really good effort. A pleasure fighting you, let's do this again sometime.

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:06 am
by erik
Lord of Oats wrote:
guts.f.uck wrote:
Lord of Oats wrote:While I appreciate the support, and never discount a positive review, I can't really get behind gutsfuck's bashing of my competitor, especially with his song being as good as it is. I have no idea what a "nasty 80's douche kit" is, but whatever it is, keep using it. The Rage and I share a love fo..... No wait I'm an asshole. I actually hate the 80's just like everyone else on earth.
Yeah I'd expect anyone called the LOO (SHOUT OUTS TO ME MATES) to be full of shit. Grow some NADS.
Oh, are you part of the New Wave of British Shit Metal?
Wow, so it's not cool to trash 80's music, but it's okay to trash nu metal? I had no idea.

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:16 am
by HeuristicsInc
Only two, eh? Was my title not up to snuff?
-bill

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:02 am
by obscurity
HeuristicsInc wrote:Only two, eh? Was my title not up to snuff?
-bill
I thought it was a good title.

So, yeah, it was probably not up to snuff :)

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:16 am
by HeuristicsInc
Yeah, it kinda sounds up your alley :)
-bill

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:38 pm
by Lord of Oats
erik wrote:Wow, so it's not cool to trash 80's music, but it's okay to trash nu metal? I had no idea.
A. It was a joke.
B. I was referring to the New Wave of British Heavy Metal, quite different from nü-metal.
C. I wasn't trashing any style of music. I was fending off a troll.

Neither 80's nor nü-metal get the respect they deserve. Although moreso with 80's. They're both easy targets for bashing, and I'm sick of hearing it, not only because I like a good deal of the music, but because it's so damned fashionable to engage in bashing of said styles.

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 4:44 pm
by Reist
I LOVE NEWSCHOOL GENESIS!!!!!

And that's the truth! Invisible Touch is a great album, no matter what my fellow prog-fans say.

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 6:48 am
by j$
oh. dear. lord.

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 6:57 am
by jimtyrrell
Invisible touch? I dunno. I think there was an instrumental on that album called The Brazilian? I remember liking that.

Hmm, here it is. And upon relistening, it doesn't seem to have withstood the test of time. Meh.

Gimme some Return Of The Giant Hogweed or The Knife over this stuff any day.

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:41 am
by Reist
jimtyrrell wrote:Invisible touch? I dunno. I think there was an instrumental on that album called The Brazilian? I remember liking that.

Hmm, here it is. And upon relistening, it doesn't seem to have withstood the test of time. Meh.

Gimme some Return Of The Giant Hogweed or The Knife over this stuff any day.
I still like The Brazilian ... for different reasons though. Return Of The Giant Hogweed is a great song, to be sure. And of course, who could forget The Musical Box. That is an epic.

Have you listened to Harold The Barrel? I really like that song ... nice and lively. Catchy too.

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:48 am
by jimtyrrell
Yeah, I know that one. That song wouldn't have been too out of place on Gabriel's first solo album, right in there with Moribund The Burgermeister.

'Kay, I've taken this thread far enough off-course. *steps back*

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 10:48 am
by The Weakest Suit
Rufus & Beauclerc - I appreciate the energy here. For some reason, I'm hearing this song in the style of Dethklok in my head. The guitars seem a bit buried in the mix and that appears to soften the driving impact that they should impart. Either way, this is a fun song, and it comes through that you had fun making it.

Spinlock - Mysterious sounding. I'm picturing a very 80's detective who keeps pulling down his sunglasses to check out his mark in the video for this one. Your voice here is great and the tone is perfect for the song. It's strange hearing a retro sounding number talk about DNA. I like the dichotomy.

Limbo fight sounds fun. If I had known about it and also hadn't been shopping for engagement rings this last weekend, I would have totally participated.

Now...off to vote.

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:26 pm
by Lord of Oats
j$ wrote:oh. dear. lord.
I'm curious as to what you are referring to, as there's plenty going on in this thread to shake one's head at.

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:25 pm
by Reist
Lord of Oats wrote:
j$ wrote:oh. dear. lord.
I'm curious as to what you are referring to, as there's plenty going on in this thread to shake one's head at.
I think he's hinting at a dislike of Genesis.

By the way, to get this topic off-track again, I listened to all of Trespass today, and on the C-Train on the way home, I switched to Supper's Ready (Foxtrot). Man, does Peter Gabriel's voice improve in that time. That's a great song, by the way.

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:18 pm
by Lord of Oats
jolly roger wrote:
Lord of Oats wrote:
j$ wrote:oh. dear. lord.
I'm curious as to what you are referring to, as there's plenty going on in this thread to shake one's head at.
I think he's hinting at a dislike of Genesis.

By the way, to get this topic off-track again, I listened to all of Trespass today, and on the C-Train on the way home, I switched to Supper's Ready (Foxtrot). Man, does Peter Gabriel's voice improve in that time. That's a great song, by the way.
Well, maybe we're both just self-conscious, but it seems that he could just as easily be talking about the Rufus & Beauclerc track. Then again, when you don't use the quote feature, you're probably talking about the post directly above. Or you're just commenting on the topic. Which one, right? That said, Phil Collins-era Genesis is Prog's legitimate equivalent of Van Hagar.