The Song Fight Bulletin Board

Ross wrote:Hey Chris, tax day was April 15 - no more beer for you

Yeah, I know that now because I've got people.
.....that send me a bill.

Three general Questions for the Ein-masters.

1. Will there be judge ratings for Round zero even though there is no cut to be made?

2. Will Nur Ein III be on the live journal page?

3. In what thread should I look for the round 1 title tomorrow?

Thanks!

With that said, I say new threads for everything "this year". Also, in the lyrics thread, let's have "Nur Ein - the title" threads. As far as I'm concerned, each title deserves it's own thread.

As long as we’re all in, here’s some first listen, stream of consciousness, “What I like about your song” reviews. My elaborate yet totally subjective point system will make its return next week.

15-16 Puzzle (I was never any good at those puzzles) - Your vocal deliveryand tune work are always great - nice chord changes here. Teh song is structured really well. If only the title was “Kick Starts” this would be one notch up. Clever Idea for the song.

Adam Adamant - As a teen of the 80s this pushes a lot of good buttons. Is this about Nur Ein!! I like the breakdown near the end there with the “trumpet” in my left ear.

ADD - Great sounding geetar, for starters. Have you changed something in your recording set-up?This sounds different than other recent stuff, I think, or am i wrong? “The wandering chords on You don’t mind” are neat. This grooves along real good, very hooky in its own way.

Andrew Reist - Heavy guitars and a good tune are always a good combo (see Teenage Fanclub). Some decent lyrics here,too. I like the cars been missing a part thing.

BLT - Orange County Ska Rock - Yeah!!!!!!! You know how to use your voice and style together so well. I wanted to crank this but I have headphones on. Nice breakdown. I love all the guitars sliding at the end.

Brian Kandel - Neat take on the title - I’m getting that Kick Start is the name of the horse - I guess this was Kentucky derby week, huh? nice recording and performance.

Cock - I like the backing tracks on this one. I also like that you trust a simple structure, sometimes I wish I did.

Embers of Autumn -This would be a great live opening number. Lots of spirit here.

FBF - Why do I even enter? Great structure and all the sounds are placed just right. The arrangement is excellent, and of course your voice and interesting lyrics.

GnR - nice pumping groove - your voices work realy well together and you use that well here, too. Sounds like you had a lot of fun making this. Good bridge.

Hoblit - Ah, the tired-est man on Earth. As you can probably tell from my own lyrics - I’m down with yours. Fun take on the title and excellent sardonic lyrics you cynical son of a gun. “Famous Friends” - yay, a name drop.

JT - man, when you groove you groove. I recall your other rap, and it was cool too. Oh - the Tarantino/Barbarino - lyric of the fight! This should be the unofficial songfight anthem. Nice!!! I’m glad there’s not immunity this round (not like I’m looking forward to being up against you next round.)

jbb - you do the echo stuff so good - I like your chorus and the irony of the music and lyrics pairing is great!! Nice vocal perfomance and cool bass/lead patch.

Ken - nice guitars and chorus/verse chorus. Good tune work. Nice song concept, too. Great package (the song, that is).

KA - damn great geetar, what do you play again? Is that a strat? Why did you thing everyone would use gocart? It’s a great rhyme. The Fred Astaire line is also great. Very catchy and fun.

LOO - Interesting idea for a song. Some interesting layers here. I like where you overlapped vocal lines.

MC Eric B - nice driving rock rhythm. I like the spirit of the song.

# - classic chord changes. Clever list of actors and negations. Funny conclusion to your search - Malkovich. Spud, is this you doing a maddog impression?

PDS - damn yer chops, damn them all to hell!!! Yay for another actal name drop. Silly song - silly story - but hey, It’s Paco!! “What did he say?” great backing vox. Nice groove change.

Sausage boy - and from the first beat it sounds just like sausage boy should sound. Another unexpected take on the title and paired well with the electronic-industrial proto-goth music. And yay for another actual name drop.

Starfinger - I’m enjoying the vocal layers and the percussion stuff in the pre-chorus. Pretty neat amp-up at “not a kick in the face.”

Sven - Well, you stuck with your original vision, that’s for sure. And I guess you learned the answer to your original question.

Tex - Okay, you actually pull this off (pun intended) - nice guitar work on this. Good Bridge - “Betty Rubble” wow too much info!

Worldly Self-Assurance - Are supergroups allowed? The two singer thing is very nice Frisbee and Melvin are a good contrast - excellent banjo and mandolin. Nice texture and tune.

Fun Round Zero - next week, eliminations are on the line!!!

Ross wrote:Hoblit - Ah, the tired-est man on Earth.

*kicks Hobz in the nuts* Yeah, you big baby!

Since it's been asked twice already, yes, it is I, SPUD on vocals this week. Bass and keys, too. And I wrote it. Mad Dog was out of town.

SPUD

Ross wrote:1. Will there be judge ratings for Round zero even though there is no cut to be made?

2. Will Nur Ein III be on the live journal page?

3. In what thread should I look for the round 1 title tomorrow?

Thanks!

1. Yes.

2. No.

3. I don't know, but I assume Niveous will start a new thread for the round, possibly even a pre-fight thread followed by a thread for the songs/reviews at the close of the round, etc.

OK OK..I'm a big baby..

I'm just sayin' I could have gotten more sleep between a full work week, two gigs with my band, and squeezing in a nur ein song.

NOTE: I do actually name drop Angelina Jolie (and Sheryl Crow, but she's not exactly and actress) in addition to saying "famous friends".

Ross wrote:KA - damn great geetar, what do you play again? Is that a strat? Why did you think everyone would use gocart? It’s a great rhyme. The Fred Astaire line is also great. Very catchy and fun.

Yeah, it's a '57 Strat. Family legend is that it was owned by the guy who played on the Lawrence Welk show and they made him get rid of it. Somebody played the heck out of it between '57 and '64, when my dad bought it, because it spent most of the next 30 years under the bed being played only a few times a year. When he passed away in '91, it came to me. When I took it to get set up several years ago, we determined that it had already been refinished by the time my dad got it and the frets were worn down enough that we decided to do a refret and refinish on the neck, just go for "playable" since it wasn't 100% original anyway. It plays really nicely It's recorded through a Pod XT.

Charles (KA)

Well, crap.

My last paper (EVER. My last paper EVER. How weird is that?) is due at midnight tonight. Top priority, and then I've got squat to do for two months. But I had to miss out on Round Zero. I am listening to some of the songs, though, and really enjoying what I'm hearing.

Lunkhead wrote:

Ross wrote:1. Will there be judge ratings for Round zero even though there is no cut to be made?

2. Will Nur Ein III be on the live journal page?

3. In what thread should I look for the round 1 title tomorrow?

Thanks!

1. Yes.

2. No.

3. I don't know, but I assume Niveous will start a new thread for the round, possibly even a pre-fight thread followed by a thread for the songs/reviews at the close of the round, etc.

Correction:

1. yes

2. yes

3. new thread

Hoblit wrote:OK OK..I'm a big baby..

I'm just sayin' I could have gotten more sleep between a full work week, two gigs with my band, and squeezing in a nur ein song.

NOTE: I do actually name drop Angelina Jolie (and Sheryl Crow, but she's not exactly and actress) in addition to saying "famous friends".

My comment about your tiredeness was not meant to be a criticism - just a reference. I'm totally on your side on that issue.

And yes, I saw the Sheryl Crow and ANgelina line, but to me, it's not aname drop till you oconnet yourself to the fame, which you do with the line "Famous Frinds"

" the studied but seemingly casual mention of prominent persons as associates done to impress others" - Merriam-webster.com

Ross wrote:

Hoblit wrote:OK OK..I'm a big baby..

"famous friends".

My comment about your tiredeness was not meant to be a criticism - just a reference. I'm totally on your side on that issue.

... but to me, it's not aname drop till you oconnet yourself to the fame, which you do with the line "Famous Frinds"

" the studied but seemingly casual mention of prominent persons as associates done to impress others" - Merriam-webster.com

Yeah, I totally agree with you. A name drop isn't just splicing in a name, it is stating a name in relation to your social network to gain recognition with whom you are speaking. That was the only part I found hard, I could easily name celebrity activists but tying them to the 'college goer' perspective of my first person character was the most difficult. Somehow turning them into the 'famous friends' line was weak but effective none the less. THANKS for listening and commenting, I do appreciate that!

frankie big face wrote:Cock - Hey, I used bass drum in my song too! Is Bella Darvi a household name? I had to look her up to find out what was so tragic about her. I don't think that's necessarily a good thing. Although I can appreciate vague-by-design lyrics (despite not being able to actually write them), I think letting the listener in on the song a bit more would help a lot.

No she's not... and I'm not sure why I'm usually pretty vague... it's a hurdle I can't get over all the time, but I agree it would be much better if the listener understood what I'm talking about and who she is...

Ross wrote:Cock - I like the backing tracks on this one. I also like that you trust a simple structure, sometimes I wish I did.

Thanks, I'm not at all sure that I "trust" a simple structure, more so than all I ever can create is a simple structure... My brain doesn't let me do anything else... heh.

The jury has come to a decision. Results and the Round one title coming within the next two hours.

Hoblit wrote:OK OK..I'm a big baby..

I was just trying to get Ross in trouble.
My first verse in my song is about you, by the way. I originally had it worded different, describing you as working your fingers to the bone, etc. But I had to chop it down and change some things to make it work. I even had "Hobz" in my original, but the rhyming line was SO cheesy I pulled it, lol.

Ross wrote:Have you changed something in your recording set-up?This sounds different than other recent stuff, I think, or am i wrong?

Not sure if it accounts for it, but I've started using a slew of new VSTs I found via the Free VST thread, and I recorded the guitar with my SM57 instead of my Equitek like I used to do.

Work delays....

results are still on the way.

The Results are in:

ADD wins Round Zero. There's no immunity awarded but ADD can call himself the favorite coming into the Nur Ein III

The votes are as follows:

ADD 106
G & R 104
15-16 Puzzle 100
Reist 91
The WSA 91
King Arthur 87
Jim Tyrrell 82
Paco del Stinko 80
BLT 80
Ross Durand 77
Frankie Big Face 75
Starfinger 73
Tex Beaumont 69
Ken Mahru 67
Octothorpe 65
John Benjamin Band 62
Hoblit 58
Bryan Kandel 49
Adam Adamant 46
Lord of Oats 45
Cock 44
Embers of Autumn 24
Sausage Boy 22
Sven Mullet 18
MC Eric B 10

Judge's score breakdown:

Judge #1:
25 ADD
24 15-16 Puzzle
23 Paco Del Stinko
22 Jim Tyrrell
21 King Arthur
20 Billy's Little Trip
19 Glenn and Rachael
18 Lord of Oats
17 Andrew Reist
16 Octothorpe
15 Hoblit
14 Sven Mullet
13 Starfinger
12 Tex Beaumont and the Dirty Hearts
11 Ross Durand
10 Ken
9 Sausage Boy
8 Bryan Kandel
7 Cock
6 Embers of Autumn
5 John Benjamin Band
4 Frankie Big Face
3 The Worldly Self Assurance
2 MC Eric B
1 Adam Adamant

Judge #2
25 Andrew Reist
24 Add
23 15-16 Puzzle
22 Paco del Stinko
21 The Worldly Self-Assurance
20 G&R
19 FBF
18 King Arthur
17 Starfinger
16 Jim Tyrrell
15 Ross Durand
14 BLT
13 Ken
12 Tex
11 Hoblit
10 Octothorpe
9 BK
8 John Benjamin
7 Adam Adamant
6 EOA
5 Cock
4 Lord Of Oats
3 Sausage Boy
2 MC Eric B
1 Sven

Judge #3
25 King Arthur
24 John Benjamin Band
23 The Worldly Self Assurance
22 ADD
21 Frankie Big Face
20 Hoblit
19 Glen & Rachael
18 Starfinger
17 Jim Tyrrell
16 Tex Beaumont & the Dirty Hearts
15 Paco Del Stinko
14 Ken
13 Cock
12 Ross Durand
11 Adam Adamant
10 Bryan Kandel
9 15-16 Puzzle
8 Octothorpe
7 Billy's Little Trip
6 Andrew Reist
5 Embers of Autumn
4 Lord of Oats
3 Sausage Boy
2 MC Eric B
1 Sven Mullet

Judge #4
25 Andrew Reist
24 Octothorpe
23 The WSA
22 Billy's Little Trip
21 Glenn and Rachael
20 15-16 Puzzle
19 Ross Durand
18 Adam Adamant
17 Starfinger
16 Frankie Big Face
15 Tex Beaumont
14 Cock
13 King Arthur
12 ADD
11 Ken Mahru
10 Bryan Kandel
9 John Benjamin Band
8 Lord of Oats
7 Paco del Stinko
6 Hoblit
5 Jim Tyrrell
4 Embers of Autumn
3 Sausage Boy
2 MC Eric B
1 Sven Mullet

Judge #5
25 Glenn and Rachael
24 15-16 Puzzle
23 ADD
22 Jim Tyrrell
21 Worldly Self Assurance
20 Ross Durand
19 Ken
18 Andrew Reist
17 BLT
16 The JBB
15 Frankie Big Face
14 Tex Beaumont
13 Paco del Stinko
12 Bryan Kandel
11 Lord of Oats
10 King Arthur
9 Adam Adamant
8 Starfinger
7 Octothorpe
6 Hoblit
5 Cock
4 Sausage Boy
3 Embers of Autumn
2 MC Eric B
1 Sven Mullet

Thanks judges for awarding me a tie for fourth place in your standings! Maybe I have a chance at the Nur Ein title this year.

One (i thought) interesting observation ... here are my rankings -

Judge 1 - 9th
Judge 2 - 1st
Judge 3 - 20th
Judge 4 - 1st
Judge 5 - 8th

I'm pretty much all over the board - I kinda wish I knew who Judge 3 was so I could try to appeal to their taste. But I guess that's not the heart of Nur Ein. May the best band win!

Phew, feeling the burn from JudgeBot #1. It could have been worse though, things are interesting and I like it.