OK, we know who won (or: Does God exist?)

Leaf · Post by **Leaf** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 5:24 pm

Thank god I'm a musician... otherwise I'd be totally confused right now...

oh wait... I am confused....am I still a musician?

Isn't this the politics thread?

Have politics been reduced to a bunch of learned people spouting off stuff they read as if the discovered it?

Am I just jealous cause I lost track around the part where Kerry lost?

YOU HAD ME AT HELLO.

j$ · Post by j$ » Sun Nov 07, 2004 5:41 pm

Leaf wrote:Have politics been reduced to a bunch of learned people spouting off stuff they read as if they discovered it?.

Uh, man, that where's it's always been ....

Adam! · Post by **Adam!** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 7:45 pm

j$ wrote:
Leaf wrote:Have politics been reduced to a bunch of learned people spouting off stuff they read as if they discovered it?.
Uh, man, that where's it's always been ....

Psst: I think that was the joke.

Sober · Post by **Sober** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 8:39 pm

Puce, I think I want to move up to Canada. You got a room for me?

Adam! · Post by **Adam!** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 8:50 pm

Sorry Sober, but you're stuck in Bushville. I just gave up my own room to my seemingly permanent houseguests, so I've had to cram all my stuff into my studio. I spent all day building a bed five feet off the ground so I can fit my amps and stuff under it (Pics soon). You're welcome to stay, if you don't mind sleeping in a drawer.

Bjam · Post by **Bjam** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 9:25 pm

Puce wrote:...I spent all day building a bed five feet off the ground so I can fit my amps and stuff under it (Pics soon).

That sounds so freaking awesome. But how do you get up there?

HeuristicsInc · Post by **HeuristicsInc** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 9:45 pm

sounds like a dorm-room loft, which usually had ... "a ladder"!

-bill

Adam! · Post by **Adam!** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 12:05 am

HeuristicsInc wrote:sounds like a dorm-room loft, which usually had ... "a ladder"!

Yep. Bill is up to date on the latest elevated bed technology.

j$ · Post by j$ » Mon Nov 08, 2004 3:31 am

Puce wrote:
j$ wrote:
Leaf wrote:Have politics been reduced to a bunch of learned people spouting off stuff they read as if they discovered it?.
Uh, man, that where's it's always been ....
Psst: I think that was the joke.

The jokes

roymond · Post by **roymond** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 3:56 am

the Jazz wrote: Science may explain the way the universe works, but you still need something more to explain why. I am also unsatisfied with theories that explain away the origin puzzle by proposing a cyclical universe that never actually "began", but repeats infinitely; I can never stop asking, "Yes, but how did that start up?" God seems to be one of the simplest possible answers to me.

How is God an answer? God has been sold as an answer when it's more a process of acceptance than an explanation of existence. Which is fine, but let's just call a spade a spade. God does not answer why or how, it offers comforting stories (and I'm not belittling their power or relevance) to settle a curious mind. We just can't be satisfied that that's the answer, because it would blind us to the next clue.

Does this fall into "Politics" or "Crap"?

Jim of Seattle · Post by **Jim of Seattle** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 9:55 am

Why is it called "Occam's Razor"? Who is Occam, and why is his razor so special? Is it electric? Is it like a lady Gillette maybe? Does Occam have a really long beard because everyone's using his razor all the time?

Maybe the physical world can truly be explained by Occam's Toothbrush. Did anyone ever think of that? Huhhh???

erik · Post by **erik** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 10:23 am

I think it's called occam's razor because you are supposed to delicately shave away unnecessary excesses from your explanations.

Hoblit · Post by **Hoblit** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 10:36 am

Henrietta wrote:
Puce wrote:Anyway, back on topic: What's everyone going to do now the GW is 'The Man' (again)? Anyone got any post-election plans/suicides?
Somebody had a post-election suicide plan...
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/11/07/ground ... index.html

Thats dedication to the protest right there. My guess is that he hopes(hoped) that others who feel this strongly about not living under the Bush administration will follow suite.

Clinton '08 (Although Guilliani is no Bush)

Jim of Seattle · Post by **Jim of Seattle** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 11:16 am

Hillary or Bill? In either case the Republicans would slaughter them. Here's the ticket I'd like to see in '08: FDR/Hillary. That might stand a chance.

I don't understand what you mean by "Giuliani is no Bush". Please explain.

Leaf · Post by **Leaf** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 11:21 am

15-16 puzzle wrote:I think it's called occam's razor because you are supposed to delicately shave away unnecessary excesses from your explanations.

that is the perfect definition. I have never heard of this "Occam's razor" until this thread, but that definition actually explains it the best, and coincidentally... it seems to follow the theory!!!!

All I can say is:

Well done.

Hoblit · Post by **Hoblit** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 11:29 am

Jim of Seattle wrote:Hillary or Bill? In either case the Republicans would slaughter them. Here's the ticket I'd like to see in '08: FDR/Hillary. That might stand a chance.

I don't understand what you mean by "Giuliani is no Bush". Please explain.

From what I understand about the United States government, Bill will not be able to run again. I could be wrong about that. I was refering to Hillary.

And by Guliani not being Bush...I mean that Guliani may not have the same iron headed narrow scope of ideas that Bush has. Also, I think that Guliani might not be so influenced by those around him. Sure there would be things that never change...but I think Guliani would be an improvement over Bush any day of the week.

if you wanted to boil it down further. (and not that I'm suggesting that this is perfect science or anything)

I think Guliani's seat as Mayor of one of the (if not THE) most diverse cities in the world would help shape him to be more interested in what everybody has to say.

I'm not tryin' to start something here...if I had a choice between Hillary or Rudy...I'm a Hillary man.

Leaf · Post by **Leaf** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 11:36 am

yeah, cause she'd let you get action on the side.

Jim of Seattle · Post by **Jim of Seattle** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 1:33 pm

I heard that Bill is indeed eligible to run again. It's the consecutive terms that can't be more than 2.

OK, I agree with you that Giuliani would be better than Bush, but I'm wondering why his name suddenly popped up. Is there talk about him running in '08? Secondly, he'd never make it; the mob hates him too much to let him get that far. Therefore, he couldn't get labor on his side.

j$ · Post by j$ » Mon Nov 08, 2004 2:33 pm

Jim of Seattle wrote:I heard that Bill is indeed eligible to run again. It's the consecutive terms that can't be more than 2.

Does this mean we can look forward to a really grizzled W. come 2012? Sheeeeet.

I heard today a possibly untrue story that hits on the Candian Visa/emmigration website jumped from 40,000 a day to 125,000 on Wednesday last.

j$

Hoblit · Post by **Hoblit** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 2:53 pm

Jim of Seattle wrote:I heard that Bill is indeed eligible to run again. It's the consecutive terms that can't be more than 2.

OK, I agree with you that Giuliani would be better than Bush, but I'm wondering why his name suddenly popped up. Is there talk about him running in '08? Secondly, he'd never make it; the mob hates him too much to let him get that far. Therefore, he couldn't get labor on his side.

No, a president can only serve two terms period. BILL Clinton has actually voiced opinion publicly to get that changed. However, they can serve as vice president past their two terms.

<a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=Giuliani+2008" target="resource window">Rumor mill has it that Giuliani may run in '08<a>. Dick Cheney has already stated that he will not run for president in 2008. Usually, every vice president says something like that while under current president...to be PC about it all. However, in this case, it appears that Cheney feels he'll be too old and the rest of the party is worried about his health and are more interested in someone who might be able to run two consecutive terms.

Ha@mob ties...

<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-sec ... nstitution" target="resource window"> this sums it up pretty good</a>...we could be looking at a Giuliani/Bush ticket in 2K8...how cool would that be yo!

I'm not smart btw...I looked it up on the internet

And the 'how cool would that be yo' is obviously a joke for it would so totally be NOT COOL.

Also: <a href="http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/tm ... _page.html" target="resource window">Another story on Hillory vs Giuliani</a> <-- 'cept, it's the mirror... so...whatever...

starfinger · Post by **starfinger** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 3:07 pm

Hoblit wrote: No, a president can only serve two terms period. BILL Clinton has actually voiced opinion publicly to get that changed. However, they can serve as vice president past their two terms.

I don't think anybody is allowed to be the VP if their presidency would not be allowed.

-craig

Hoblit · Post by **Hoblit** » Mon Nov 08, 2004 4:31 pm

starfinger wrote:
Hoblit wrote: No, a president can only serve two terms period. BILL Clinton has actually voiced opinion publicly to get that changed. However, they can serve as vice president past their two terms.
I don't think anybody is allowed to be the VP if their presidency would not be allowed.

-craig

The article mentions that...but it also mentions that there may be contradictive points in the 12th ammendment to the 22nd ammendment. It reads as if the courts would have to decide..but havn't yet for the situation has not arrised. However, I'm no expert and the article may not be accurate for that matter..I didn't cross reference it nor did I do any further homework. BUT if the article is right..then we could see a huge court battle over that very thing... and with the Supreme Court on Bush's team... then who knows.

OK, we know who won (or: Does God exist?)

Who will win the presidential election?