Songfight! Boston August 12-13 (I Know My Rights)

Post by **Spud** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 11:17 pm

Any room with an occupancy load of 50 or more requires two exits. Since this room has only one door, the occupancy can be assumed to be 49 or less. Actual allowable occupancy varies by jurisdiction and use.

In Massachusetts, however, standing room requires 3 sf per person, which would come to 192, so that can't be it.

Concentrated Seating requires 7, or 82, so that can't be the designation either.

Unconcentrated Seating requires 15 sf per person, or 38 total, which is less than 50, so that is my prediction as to the occupancy load.

btw, I am in no way critisizing the selection of this space on a standby last-resort basis. You gotta do what you gotta do. I am just trying to provide data. Expectations may hafta change.

bz£ · Post by **bz£** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 1:12 am

Spud wrote:Unconcentrated Seating requires 15 sf per person, or 38 total, which is less than 50, so that is my prediction as to the occupancy load.

That sounds realistic- we could fit more but it would start to get concentrated pretty quickly.

btw, I am in no way critisizing the selection of this space on a standby last-resort basis. You gotta do what you gotta do. I am just trying to provide data. Expectations may hafta change.

Yah, this is still on stand-by and apparently I can cancel it free-of-charge as late as 48 hours before. While I certainly don't want to do that, I am still trying to improve the situation and will keep y'all posted. In the mean time I am trying to ignore the data because I want everything to work out perfectly.

Of the last four places I visited, hoping to talk to someone there about renting their venue, one had been condemned and another was already in the process of being demolished. (I even gave some serious thought to trying to contact the owner of the former, but even my lack of realism has its limits.) But I persevere, mainly with the help of prescription drugs, and there are still buildings that I haven't been to yet.

Sober · Post by **Sober** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:39 am

I don't care if I'm standing amidst audience members, I want to rock the fuck out. Let's do this.

Future Boy · Post by **Future Boy** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:29 am

This is a plea for help to any Songfighters who live in Boston.

Let me begin by explaining my old plan:

Go to SFL: Boston. Stay with a friend of mine for a little over a week and attend his band's show while I am there. At the end of my stay with him get on a plane in Boston and fly to San Jose.

Here's what's gone wrong:

My friend has totally flaked on me and said he will pretty much be unavailable and that I should move my flight.

However, if I move my flight, poor jack shite will have to put up with my ass for nearly two weeks in Santa Cruz before we go to Burning Man. I don't want to subject him to that. Also, I don't want to have to pay extra fees to reschedule my flight. And I can't afford to stay in a hotel for that long.

Are any of you willing to give me a place to crash in Boston from August 11th through 20th? All I need is a couch to sleep on, an internet connection, and food of some kind within walking distance (grocery stores count). We could collab on some music while I'm there even.

PM me if you think you can help out.

Sober · Post by **Sober** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 5:56 pm

Ok, I've got the following flights on hold:

Arriving in Boston at Logan Airport on Fri 8-12 at 2:30pm

Leaving Sun 8-14 at 7:15pm

Now, my purchasing of these tickets is dependant upon lodging and local travel arrangements. Basically, I just need a ride to and from the airport, or at least a definite destination to take a cab to. I imagine someone else is arriving at a similar time, perhaps we could share transportation?

Of course, I'd compensate anyone for any trouble. I'd rent a car, but I'm only 20.

So, I really need to secure a roommate and a buddy with a vehicle by tomorrow, which is how long these tickets are on hold for before I lose them.

I'll post this on the other board, too.

<3

Bjam · Post by **Bjam** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 6:11 pm

Never mind. Timings won't line up.

fluffy · Post by **fluffy** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:35 pm

Ugh, now I'm committed to going but of course the tickets for the flight the rest of Octothorpe is taking have gone up to like $820/person. There's tickets for as cheap as $350 but they're all with America Worst. Meh.

jack · Post by **jack** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:49 pm

i had pretty good luck with Priceline.com recently getting a last minute ticket. i got a round trip ticket from san francisco to norfolk, va. for $280 and everyone else was quoting me $500.

fluffy · Post by **fluffy** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:31 pm

Priceline is a bit too 'here is the ticket you got, suck it up' for my tastes. I was going through cheaptickets though.

fluffy · Post by **fluffy** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:37 pm

Huh, it did find some decent flights for $630. Freaky.

tonetripper · Post by **tonetripper** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:09 am

Ok, so it's looking more and more that I'll be going to this bonanza. Not sure THC is coming, but I'm gonna go. If not to play then to support and meet all you crazy SFers. I was worried about my work sitch and that I might be booked, but it looks as though I won't be and that I'll be off to Miami and Puerto Rico the following week. Cool. First SF live. Hopefully I can hang out at B's cottage or wherever he's house sitting.

;p

jimtyrrell · Post by **jimtyrrell** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:41 am

Hey, glad to hear it, man.
I have shows booked that Friday and Saturday, and I'm in contact with a couple local musicians who (hopefully) should be able to cover them. At worst, I'd have to skip the friday festivities and make a day trip of it on Saturday. But I'm still really shooting for a full weekend.

Hoblit · Post by **Hoblit** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:14 am

Confirmed..I'll be staying in Lynnfeild. It looks like it's reletavily cheap to fly from Tampa to Boston. Less than $200 even. With choices. Not bragging or anything...believe me...my Seattle trip was way expensive, I'm just relieved is all.

I MAY need some help getting around. My cousin works but has said that she'd be willing to drive me to and from the airport and into town. I just don't know how her schedule will be. Do busses run up there? (I'll do some homework)

boltoph · Post by **boltoph** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:09 am

Sir Hoblit of the sweetest Rock, here's the MBTA bus transportation page, will give you the bus schedules and routes...have to poke around on there...
MBTA's site
(http://www.mbta.com)

FWIW I am staying in Concord MA for that week and if anyone's gonna be in my area, I can drive ya in. I'm checking out Lynnfield now. Will be back with more info. Will post to the SF Boston-specific board, in the travel area.

Hoblit · Post by **Hoblit** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:06 pm

boltoph wrote:Sir Hoblit of the sweetest Rock, here's the MBTA bus transportation page, will give you the bus schedules and routes...have to poke around on there...
MBTA's site
(http://www.mbta.com)

FWIW I am staying in Concord MA for that week and if anyone's gonna be in my area, I can drive ya in. I'm checking out Lynnfield now. Will be back with more info. Will post to the SF Boston-specific board, in the travel area.

Hey thanks! groovy. It appears that I can get a cab to Lynn and take a train into town from there if need be. I like Boston already.

roymond · Post by **roymond** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:53 pm

I haven't found a place to stay, yet. I am stressed and having difficulty functioning on many levels. Any suggestions welcome.

bz£ · Post by **bz£** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:09 pm

"Real" venue secured. Capacity approx. 180 so you will have to ask Hoblit extra nice if you want to sit in his lap anyways. It is across the street from a Holiday Inn which may help make lodging less complicated. Details tonight when I get home.

jimtyrrell · Post by **jimtyrrell** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:21 pm

HOORAY HOORAY! Excellent work man! The beverage of your choice is on me when I hit Beantown.

Post by jb » Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:36 pm

bzl wrote:"Real" venue secured. Capacity approx. 180 so you will have to ask Hoblit extra nice if you want to sit in his lap anyways. It is across the street from a Holiday Inn which may help make lodging less complicated. Details tonight when I get home.

FUCK YEAH!

Bjam · Post by **Bjam** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:41 pm

roymond · Post by **roymond** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:46 pm

bzl wrote:It is across the street from a Holiday Inn which may help make lodging less complicated.

Holiday Inn RAWKS!!!!

(did I really just say that?)

Give up the details so I can make reservations.

bz£ · Post by **bz£** » Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:56 pm

Okay. Now that I actually have some of what used to be my money in the hands of a real place that really is willing to let us have a real big show, I am finally confident enough to spill some details. Both "main" shows will take place at the Somerville City Club, conveniently located in THE CITY OF LOVE, at 20 Innerbelt Road, Somerville, MA. Their main function room comfortably holds close to two hundred people, so feel free to invite everyone you happen to know. Admittance is FREE and ALL-AGES, and the room comes with its own cash bar and cash bartender, which is the best of both worlds, speaking alcoholically.

Plenty of parking and easy to drive to (right off 93), and directly on a couple of bus routes. Also within a mile or so of the practice space and the afternoon venue. I will put up some better maps soon on the other board, but if you look at the "Lodging & Travel" thread there, you will see a big map, and the site is in the top right hand corner of the map.

SAVE SOME MONEY! If you need a hotel room, I strongly urge you to at least consider The Holiday Inn Hotel Boston/Somerville. This hotel is directly across the street from the club- it would make a great place to stay. They apparently have an agreement with the club: Tell them that you are in town for a function at the City Club and ask for their discount rate. Tell 'em that Roy McDonald sent you. He's the guy who runs the club and he told me that the hotel would offer rooms at about $80 per night. This ain't chump change but it is a pretty damn good deal for this part of the world.

I will do some consolidating and updating and stuff, and get all the important information together soon.

Songfight! Boston August 12-13 (I Know My Rights)

Please help me!