V For Vendetta

Because everybody thinks they have an opinion.
stueym
Attlee
Posts: 466
Joined: Wed Nov 17, 2004 2:36 pm
Instruments: Guitar
Recording Method: Cubase/Stenberg CI2+/Roland VG-99/RolandGR-55
Submitting as: stueym
Location: Lebanon, TN
Contact:

Post by stueym »

j$ wrote:I saw it tonight. I really liked it. Wasn't quite right in terms of the graphic novel, and it touched on a couple of issues that it didn't really have the frame-work as an 'action pic' to answer effictively, but I came out thinking about them, rather than the wire-work or the special effects, whatever that signifies.

[spoiler]


Maybe it's because I only leave 10 minutes from the houses of parliament, but there was an extra chill when they blew up which i guess wouldn't be there for someone who doesn't see them from their bedroom window every morning.

[/spoiler]
I agree J$....I think there were a number of "Brit" culture things that made the movie even better for me....tiny little things like "Penny for the Guy" Who other than us Brit's would have any inkling of the meaning :-)

Also for those of us who grew up and matured during the Thatcher years, there were time that it almost felt like that "totalitarian path" was only inches away.
"You know, I rather like this God fellow. Very theatrical, you know. Pestilence here, a plague there. Omnipotence ... gotta get me some of that."
sausage boy
bono
bono
Posts: 1074
Joined: Mon Sep 27, 2004 8:53 pm
Instruments: Bass, Vocals, Terrible drum machine, even worse harmonica
Recording Method: Creative Recorder, ModPlug Tracker and Audacity
Location: South Australia
Contact:

Post by sausage boy »

HeuristicsInc wrote:
sausage boy wrote:destroying a symbol of an oppressive regime to insite revolution, where as most of the current building blowing up of is a terrorist action.
I suppose that depends on your point of view, doesn't it?
-bill
Well, as I see it, a revolutionary action is something you insite to topple the powers of your country by hitting symbols of their power to bring hope or action.

Where as something like, say, 9-11 was a strike against another country entirely designed to bring fear and, ultimately, bring about the destruction of the society as a whole.

Not that I condone blowing up buildings in any way, shape or form. But I'm just saying, I get the differences between the two.
stueym
Attlee
Posts: 466
Joined: Wed Nov 17, 2004 2:36 pm
Instruments: Guitar
Recording Method: Cubase/Stenberg CI2+/Roland VG-99/RolandGR-55
Submitting as: stueym
Location: Lebanon, TN
Contact:

Post by stueym »

stueym wrote:Also for those of us who grew up and matured during the Thatcher years, there were time that it almost felt like that "totalitarian path" was only inches away.
So my copy of the graphic novel arrived today and I just read the intro by Moore from the original publication of the DC series. I had no idea he was writing this at the height of the Thatcher years with so many contextual nuances that are woven into the V storyline. Brings added resonance to my feelings expressed earlier.
"You know, I rather like this God fellow. Very theatrical, you know. Pestilence here, a plague there. Omnipotence ... gotta get me some of that."
Mogosagatai
Goldman
Posts: 717
Joined: Sat Sep 25, 2004 3:09 pm

Post by Mogosagatai »

Just saw this. I liked it, but not all that much. It's pretty cut and dry.

<b>[SPOILERS WILL BOIL YOUR EYES OUT]</b>

That scene with the inspector foretelling the upcoming chain of events while V does the awesome domino trick? I got excited there. I thought, now I'm gonna get to see a kickass revolution. But no, they didn't show that wild chain of cause and effect--they only talked about it, and then later showed that it had apparently all happened. There was that one scene where the fingerman shoots the girl and the shovel mob kills him, but that's it. Lame.

I also wish it went on to show what happens after the parliament building incident. Sure, they kill the old regime, but do they actually have a solution?

The scene where V kills all those cops and the two politicians in the subway: I really wish he hadn't pulled out that bulletproof vest afterwards and dropped it. a) That's lame and a tired, played-out trick. Why not keep it on, anyway? You might need it still! And it's not like it bothers you--you keep that fucking mask on all the time! b) It'd be much cooler to leave us in the dark and make us guess whether he had on armor or is just actually close to invincible.

I was unmoved by all the "personal" moments. All of them.

At least it was pretty.

<b>[YOUR EYES ARE SAFE AGAIN]</b>


So, meh. Time to read the graphic novel now.
Tonamel
Attlee
Posts: 346
Joined: Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:22 pm
Contact:

Post by Tonamel »

Mogosagatai wrote:<b>[SPOILERS WILL BOIL YOUR EYES OUT]</b>

Sure, they kill the old regime, but do they actually have a solution?
One of the main themes that was pretty much cut from the movie, and is almost certainly why Alan Moore disassociated himself from the project, is that V's main motivation is to turn England into an anarchist state.

So no, he doesn't have a solution. He's going to let them figure it out for themselves.
Post Reply