07/11/08

[Ross]

if only were a teacher! - I could knock off at 3pm and get this fixed )

But would you be able to afford a home with a pool ?

[fluffy]

Speaking as an ex-teacher who is awful with money, however,

Wait, weren't you a math teacher?

[Caravan Ray]

if only were a teacher! - I could knock off at 3pm and get this fixed )

But would you be able to afford a home with a pool ?

Assuming I was still married to a doctor...yes!

[Rabid Garfunkel]

Let's get back to the bonobosapien, heh. Horny horny hobos... and now I'm thinking of that kid's game with the hippos & marbles. Oy. When will the homeless, the hobos, and the rag & bone men be used as advertising platforms? All logo'ed up and virally advertising and all. Does it hurt your brain when you see one pushing a shopping cart? Advertising space, man, advertising space.

[Caravan Ray]

Let's get back to the bonobosapien, heh. Horny horny hobos... and now I'm thinking of that kid's game with the hippos & marbles. Oy. When will the homeless, the hobos, and the rag & bone men be used as advertising platforms? All logo'ed up and virally advertising and all. Does it hurt your brain when you see one pushing a shopping cart? Advertising space, man, advertising space.

I'd like to see them advertising deodorant. They could hand out free samples. And perhaps use a little themselves.

[Billy's Little Trip]

I come from a land down under, where beer does flow and men chunder

Yeah, it sounds like the suction line. We use a CO2 tank to blow out lines, but there is an inexpensive device that you can purchase at you local hardware store called a "drain jet". it may not go by that name there, so I'll enplane it.
It screws on to the end of your garden hose
It is a rubber or canvas blow bag looking thing
You hook it to the hose and insert it in the suction line on the pump end and turn on the hose. The drain jet will quickly expand in the line and create pressure in the suction line blowing any debris back out through the skimmer.
It's important to blow the debris from the pump towards the skimmer. If you blow from the skimmer to the pump, the debris call become lodged in the line worse.

If you have two people, you can do the same thing by wrapping a wet rag around the end of the hose about 6 inches from the end. You want to wrap the rag just big enough to slightly fit in the pipe and create a block so that pressure can build in the line. This eliminates the need for the drain jet device. Have one person hold the ragged hose in the line while the other turns on the hose. I suggest you be the "turn on the hose guy" because the "hold the hose guy" gets wet. Then go watch the skimmer to see if it's flowing freely. Actually, I guess I should have said "flowing smoothly". Because it would have to be in the United States to be flowing "freely"...BAM! ~Steven Colbert

EDIT: I google a picture of a drain jet. Handy to have around.

[Caravan Ray]

I come from a land down under, where beer does flow and men chunder

Yeah, it sounds like the suction line. We use a CO2 tank to blow out lines, but there is an inexpensive device that you can purchase at you local hardware store called a "drain jet". it may not go by that name there, so I'll enplane it.
It screws on to the end of your garden hose
It is a rubber or canvas blow bag looking thing
You hook it to the hose and insert it in the suction line on the pump end and turn on the hose. The drain jet will quickly expand in the line and create pressure in the suction line blowing any debris back out through the skimmer.
It's important to blow the debris from the pump towards the skimmer. If you blow from the skimmer to the pump, the debris call become lodged in the line worse.

If you have two people, you can do the same thing by wrapping a wet rag around the end of the hose about 6 inches from the end. You want to wrap the rag just big enough to slightly fit in the pipe and create a block so that pressure can build in the line. This eliminates the need for the drain jet device. Have one person hold the ragged hose in the line while the other turns on the hose. I suggest you be the "turn on the hose guy" because the "hold the hose guy" gets wet. Then go watch the skimmer to see if it's flowing freely. Actually, I guess I should have said "flowing smoothly". Because it would have to be in the United States to be flowing "freely"...BAM! ~Steven Colbert

EDIT: I google a picture of a drain jet. Handy to have around.

OK - sound like it is worth a go.

But I have just been doing some tinkering and made the following observations - which may or may nor be relevant.

If I fill the pump pot with water - it does drain back to the pool - but very slowly. From this I suspect a suction line blockage may be likely

BUT

If I turn the pump on while the pump pot is full of water - nothing happens. The pump motor goes - but there is no movement of the water in the pump pot. The impeller does not seem to move. I can turn the impeller with my finger (while the pump is off) and it seems to move reasonably freely - but nothing when I start the pump. I am thinking my pump may be rooted.

So, suction line blockage aside - surely something should happen water movement-wise if I start the pump while the pump pot is full of water? Or is my logic completely wrong here?

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EDIT: And I have started a new thread, specifically for these non-musical problems...
http://songfight.net/forums/viewtopic.p ... 481#100481

[Billy's Little Trip]

Responded to your new thread, John.