Prefight Thread Switcheroo

[signboy]

Well you can always change the title later when you play it for your friends or just use the old parentheses. Ex: "Raining the Blood of Orphan Children (Switcheroo)"

I am so in now. That brings back so many memories, and so many lyric ideas.

[frankie big face]

The lowest common denominator answer is that you have to actually say it in the song somewhere. How fucking boring.

Sorry to stir the pot and then walk away, but I got busy. I actually started to write a response to this quote a couple of times and then deleted it because I didn't have time to fully explore my problems with this sad sad statement. Way to dismiss 95% of pop songwriting, Spud. Maybe Octothorpe can feed just about any title into its formula, but that doesn't mean everyone can. Gee, maybe I'm not as "creative" as you and Aaron. Maybe I don't have quite the range you're looking for on your website.

And Generic, why single me out as someone who "should know better"? I'm not putting words into people's mouths. I have actual real-life conversations with people who agree with me about the titles when they're "bad." (the quotes are my acknowledgment that is is just my opinion). Every week, a horde of people jump on the Prefight Thread and say "Purple Tongue! That title is SWEEEEEEEET!" or something similar. But no-one dares say anything negative because they will be yelled at by the ADMIN for being so FUCKING BORING and lacking in CREATIVITY. At least a few people came out this week to say that these titles aren't so great (for them) and gave good reasons why.

Do all the Google searches you want. "Switcheroo" is an inherently silly title. Adding "-eroo" to just about any word turns it into a joke. Since we're using internet sources to support our positions, Dictionary.com defines the suffix as such:
"-eroo
a suffix that creates familiar, usually jocular variations of semantically more neutral nouns; normally added to monosyllabic bases, or merged with bases ending in -er: flopperoo; smackeroo; switcheroo."

You know what would have been a good title this week? "Switch." Just "Switch." Is it a more boring word than "Switcheroo"? Yes, in my opinion, it is. Would it result in more boring songs? I think not. There are a lot of different ways to go with a title like "Switch." There aren't nearly as many with a title like "Switcheroo." You think people need to be more creative with the titles they're given; I think you need to be less creative with the titles and let people interpret them in a whole bunch of different ways.

[Spud]

Well Frank, I think it is well known that Octothorpe writes silly songs. It's certainly not that we're smarter or more creative, but I recognize your facetious tone in suggesting that we are. I take your point, therefore that these titles are more suited to some people's "formula" than to others'.

I do not question your sincerity when you suggest that, in your view, these are "bad" titles. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, and for me to suggest that someone's opinion is invalid would be ridiculous. In the same spirit, I am sure that you recognize that there are at least some people who like these titles.

I would hope that we continue to get a variety of "good" and "bad" titles in the future, so that in the end, everyone has a chance to play.

[Caravan Ray]

I moreso meant that you could base your song on the songfight title then change the title later to some other equally revelant title based on another lyric or theme within the song when you add it to your existing library of work.

Example: Take my song "Crinkle Binkle" (as part of TFC). It's inspired by the title. I thought that Crinkle sounded like a drug name and wrote anout such. I could probably get away with calling it "Designer Drugs (Crinkle Binkle)" or some other stuff title now that it's in my archive of work.

Yes - I agree.

My "Tomato" - if I were to present outside of the Songfight! context would probably not be titled "Tomato". It has nothing to do with tomatoes. But the song was definitely inspired by the word "Tomato" - and written after long contemplation of objects associated with tomatoes. Other songs that I have re-recorded and used elsewhere are "Convalesence", which became "A Day at Home With Dad", and "Please Don't Break My Heart George Lucas", from which I have now removed the George Lucas reference and just call "Natalie Portman".

The songs were definitely inspired by the titles in the first instance. They just grew to have other titles that eventually fitted them better. My songs are like little hermit crabs, scuttling around the rock-pools of life choosing and discarding shells as they go.

[EmbersOfAutumn]

Pending I get my sorry, lazy tail in gear, i'm in...

[rone rivendale]

Actually I think "Swtich" would be a terrible title. "Switcheroo" is much better. Just my opinion though.

[Billy's Little Trip]

Actually I think "Swtich" would be a terrible title. "Switcheroo" is much better. Just my opinion though.

I think switcherone would be even better.

[Niveous]

I tossed some lyrics in the lyric mart.

[HeuristicsInc]

Nice interpretation, Niv, I hope somebody uses those.
-bill

[EmbersOfAutumn]

I tossed some lyrics in the lyric mart.

Actually, what would be a good idea is, say, next fight, someone post a verse or a chorus or something and then as a sidefight, entrants have to put that verse/chorus in their song somewhere.

[Caravan Ray]

You know what would have been a good title this week? "Switch." Just "Switch." Is it a more boring word than "Switcheroo"? Yes, in my opinion, it is. Would it result in more boring songs? I think not. There are a lot of different ways to go with a title like "Switch." There aren't nearly as many with a title like "Switcheroo." You think people need to be more creative with the titles they're given; I think you need to be less creative with the titles and let people interpret them in a whole bunch of different ways.

So why not write a song which you privately call "Switch" - but enter it as "Switcheroo"? I'm pretty sure no-one would mind. And if they did they are dicks, because the song which you privately call "Switch" was obviously inspired by the title 'Switcheroo".

I haven't done a song this week - but I considered it. And I can guarantee that it would not have contained the word "Switcheroo" - that is a word I would never use. I was thinking of a song about gender re-assignment surgery. It was mainly about having my dick cut off - with a nice sing along chorus - and it just happened to be called "Switcheroo". Anyway, I never actually started recording it, so the world will be deprived that particular pleasure.

The point is - I really don't think there is such a thing as a bad title. My favourite songs of my own include Les Anchois, Sugar Shaker, and Ottoman. I never would have written those songs without the silly titles as a jumping off point. And they are all non-joke songs.

I have done a few songs over at Tuneflow - but I really hate the titles they have there. They are so generic sounding. Last month the titles were:

She's A Keeper
Ignorance Is Bliss
The Ground Beneath Your Feet
Eyes Now Open

Apart from the fact that one title was stolen from Songfight (heads up Deepthroat) - they are really dull titles.

Give me Rockapolusaninjananophone anyday.

[Caravan Ray]

I have done a few songs over at Tuneflow - but I really hate the titles they have there. They are so generic sounding. Last month the titles were:


Ignorance Is Bliss

Actually, now I think of it. If anyone has time on there hands and is feeling a bit mischevious - why not invent 21 ridiculous band names and enter 21 different songs a Tuneflow this month. I just happen to know where you can get your hands on 21 different songs all titled "Ignorance Is Bliss" - royalty free. Go crazy with them.

http://www.songfight.org/songpage.php?k ... e_is_bliss

[Paco Del Stinko]

I was thinking of a song about gender re-assignment surgery. It was mainly about having my dick cut off

Hey, that's a pretty good song idea. Or maybe it was an accident where you lost your dick, and the switcheroo involved someone swapping your prosthetic one with a flashlight or something. Or: Collect them all, kids!The new Switcheroo Dick Doll!Trade dicks with your friends! Hmm. I see what they mean by serious interpretation, although maybe the flashlight guy saves a life with his beam.

[tonetripper]

When you put it that way Paco it gives a whole new meaning of shedding light on this topic.

[erik]

You know what would have been a good title this week? "Switch." Just "Switch." Is it a more boring word than "Switcheroo"? Yes, in my opinion, it is. Would it result in more boring songs? I think not. There are a lot of different ways to go with a title like "Switch." There aren't nearly as many with a title like "Switcheroo." You think people need to be more creative with the titles they're given; I think you need to be less creative with the titles and let people interpret them in a whole bunch of different ways.

So why not write a song which you privately call "Switch" - but enter it as "Switcheroo"? I'm pretty sure no-one would mind. And if they did they are dicks, because the song which you privately call "Switch" was obviously inspired by the title 'Switcheroo".

If I wrote a song that I called "Switch", but pretended that I was calling the song "Switcheroo", then I was inspired by the title "Switch", I wasn't inspired by the title "Switcheroo". Other titles my song called "Switch" would not have been inspired by: Switcherino, Switcherama, and Switchilicious.

The point is - I really don't think there is such a thing as a bad title. My favourite songs of my own include Les Anchois, Sugar Shaker, and Ottoman. I never would have written those songs without the silly titles as a jumping off point. And they are all non-joke songs.

I have done a few songs over at Tuneflow - but I really hate the titles they have there. They are so generic sounding. Last month the titles were:

She's A Keeper
Ignorance Is Bliss
The Ground Beneath Your Feet
Eyes Now Open

Apart from the fact that one title was stolen from Songfight (heads up Deepthroat) - they are really dull titles.

Give me Rockapolusaninjananophone anyday.

It sounds like you think that there *are* bad titles: dull ones.

[king_arthur]

...and that whole thing about putting it where the sun don't shine...

Charles (KA)

Maybe Deep Throat could steal one of this month's TF titles (although I don't think we can really say they "stole" Ignorance is Bliss, that's a common phrase) and we could all enter our SF songs over there, too...

[tonetripper]

... you put your chocolate in my peanut butter.

[Paco Del Stinko]

When you put it that way Paco it gives a whole new meaning of shedding light on this topic.

That's almost as funny as vomiting paint! (which nearly killed me with laughter)

[Spud]

If I wrote a song that I called "Switch", but pretended that I was calling the song "Switcheroo", then I was inspired by the title "Switch", I wasn't inspired by the title "Switcheroo". Other titles my song called "Switch" would not have been inspired by: Switcherino, Switcherama, and Switchilicious.

You would have been inspired by the title, Switcheroo, to write a song called Switch. Would you have done it otherwise? Probably not.

[tonetripper]

In this whole discussion it has really never been truly brought up that if you decided to have "Switch" as the key word in the chorus of the song titled "Switcheroo" and never using the title "Switcheroo" in the song, then wouldn't that be making some kind of "Switcheroo"?

[tonetripper]

For that matter you could sing about having your dick changed to a flashlight and how you liked it cuz you could see when you pee, but woke up one morning that someone had taken your modular dick flashlight and replaced it with a spatula. Or you could sing about the moon and stars and how you lost the girl. There are endless reasons, in my mind, why this title could be more ambiguous than posters here are making it seem that Switcheroo could mean and the inspiration that lies within such a title.

[Billy's Little Trip]

For that matter you could sing about having your dick changed to a flashlight and how you liked it cuz you could see when you pee, but woke up one morning that someone had taken your modular dick flashlight and replaced it with a spatula.

You write one for this, I'll do the music.

"My spatula dick is great for flippin' shit,
but my flashlight unit keeps my inseam lit"