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Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:02 pm
by deshead
They worked for me, but Glenn's didn't.

Definitely songhole.

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:20 pm
by GlennCase
deshead wrote:They worked for me, but Glenn's didn't.

Definitely songhole.
Crap!

Okay... I have a backup version <a href="http://esc67.midphase.com/~spewsch1/gc/ ... 3">here</a>.

ROCK!

Glenn (DR FUNK)
http://glenncase.songhole.org

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:23 pm
by Leaf
I got them all now... gonna listen to you all and do data entry at the same time. yea!

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 3:11 pm
by j$
Jim Tyrell - awesome. Great take on the 'no rhymes' challenege - what I would have done Iif I had thought of it - the chorus is a tad too metal for my tastes although the squidgy almost prog moog off-sets it very nicely. Yeah, the mix isn't so great, but the quality of the song shintes through - sounds like a bit like a Rage live recording, although twiddly keith Emerson keyboard solo gets a bit much ... It's kind of done at 2.30 but hey it's churlish to complain ...

Wreckdom - Not quite as immediate as your 'Pencil Me In' - it's a nice groove but i kind of getting a little bored at 1.15ish ... it feels a little pissed out lyrically to me. Nice theramin-y style guitar thing in the background. Good solid bass. Certainly a nice filler but lacks the cohesiveness and sharpness, that crispness, of my favourite Wreckdom songs (of which there are maybe two)

Sausage Boy - I really like the lyric to this. Like the nice jazzy keyboard and the weird almost swing standard feel but not a huge dynamic variation - needs something else in the mix to give a bit more depth - maybe a nice choppy metal guitar - really helping to layer it on thick. The change is 2.47 is great though maybe comes 15 to 20 seonds too late. And I don't really want the groove to come back. Should have stayed in the freakout moment right until the end .... a good bare bones of a song, but only ok in realisation.

Tex Beaumont - You're my stepping stone? I really like the verse guitar and structure - I wish the vocal was a bit louder there. the layering of 'again and again' works well - I just can't get the idea of the Monkees out of my head when the chorus hits and that spoils my enjoyment... seems a lot longer, somehow, than the 2 and a half minutes it is?

Leaf 62 - Rawk. Part of me wishes you had just shouted 'wake me up' all the way through. But this is awesome within that metal genre of which I am not a fan. I wanted a big poodle wig-out that never came.

Heuristics Inc - there's some weird crackling going on here - good spooky feeling going on - I'm not really engaging with the samples though it's good. I think the two sections (yr singing, the samples) sound disjointed somehow. I love the instrumental break outs - really good swells and strangeness nailed to the beat, especially aroun 3.10 when it goes all Residents.

Kamakura - Ah, the 'Floyd - or should that be ARGH! The Floyd!? :) Let me say first I love the last line. This feels like song 3 in a huge concept album. Some nice rhythmic word play going on which I appreciate. Why is everyone's song so long this time round? Oh for a 90 second punk buzz ....

Ken - I wasn't expecting this! It's like the Human League Dare-era. Well, a little like that anyway. It's a bit repititive, lacking in any solid hooks or riffs, but the melody is great and there's some interesting bonkers percussion going on.

# - I know within 15 seconds that this is prime octothorpe. It's that absurd keyboard crashing that does it for me. And the feamle backing vocals. Apparently random guitar solos and motorbike noises are great as well. And it's short! Yay #!

Denyer - This is a really good mix. Only the complete lack of a) a chorus and b) much more importantly, the complete lack of connection to the title stop me promoting to top of my scoring list so far.

Deshead -hmmm, I was really worried for the first 40 seconds, but the kick in is awesome. Great bass work. I don't really like the growly vocal take (or at least it seems more growly than usual to me) - this sounds like EMF or one of those indie dance bands of the 90s, when they wanted to show they had more meat and went a little rawk (cf 'Lies' by EMF). I find myself at 2.35 worrying that slower, earnest slow-rock interlude will return. I'm glad it doesn't and there 's still something overall about it that I don't warm to, but it's sharp as a bucket of knifes so I'll let it pass.

Glenn Case - Oh starts like Elvis Costello. And the middle too :) That chorus is great, I like the phased/flanged/whatever effect it is leadwork there a lot. really gives a depth that sets against the skinnier verses very well. Could do with a bit more kick in the bass tone to accentuate that great playing. The breakdown end is silly but I like it (although the snare is almost unbearably too loud in that section. And now I've noticed it the drums are very forefront in this mix.)

Bjam - 'sun is settinG on the pale orange moon'? The mix works well for the W'N'G stylings. I don't really know what else to say. The lyric is very good in parts, not in others (I like 'I am sleeping to escape from you' but not 'Wide-awake nightma-a-ah-ares'). Hmmm, yeah. Quite good.

Calfborg - This is cool. Like the microphone effect, although i'd like to hear it turned off occasionally and turned back on. I like the double tracking towards the end, and the riff is good, but there is not enough here to justify 4 minutes in my opinion. that said, I like it, it just feels a bit 'just add water' to me.

The BeWells - Is this the BeWells Rockin' out? Sounds so REM-y - you even used the word 'reveal' :) Like the little falsetto peaks very much. Nothing much else to say. It's well done but I don't think I'd rush out to buy it - personal taste.

Ross Durand - 'The world out here is changing a lot' - what, as opposed as 'changing a little', or 'changing, but hardly so as you'd notice'? :) I like the bass tone. The slightly hectoring tone of the vocal makes me step back a few paces. I like the power boost as 1.15ish - but I'd like the rhythm go all wiry and sharp-edged here - I guess this kind of American swamp rocky thing goes beyond my taste-realm, and takes up residency in the next kingdom along. It's certainly not bad. Apart from the repeated 'sleeper, can you hear me, it's time to wake up' when you don't seem to be offering anything in the lyric to wake up for?

Jolly Roger - That guitar riff is too prominent for something not that interesting. The bass and second guitar don't really notice when they come in for several seconds. maybe this just needs mastering? Heh cute take on the lyric - obvious rhyme not arriving. Again, there's a lot of interest here but it's not quite the finished product - not that I am going to judge on that. That take on the lyric seems to have got forgotten. A little shabby but not bad. Oh I like the drum rolls and tom use a lot.

Thornberry - I wish the heavy drumming had carried on a bit more. I feel a bit cheated by the drop back into half-time. yet this is also messy and garrulous and therefore I love it. A bit pompous and I don't like the 'American Rock' stylings to the verse vocals, and I can hear harmonies on the more beatles-ish ones. You know I can't decide if I like this or hate it, and therefore for the time being I like it. It's suitably 'come along for the ride' for my tastes! Assume Power Focus!

haven't scored yet. There was a lot more variety in this stage than the last which is good. And some interesting takes on the tricky lyric challenge too. Things sounded a bit rougher, mix-wise, which may indicate people are finding the turn-around trickier, but colours in my own personal taste-spectrum in a pleasing way.

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 5:12 pm
by sausage boy
j$ wrote: Sausage Boy - I really like the lyric to this. Like the nice jazzy keyboard and the weird almost swing standard feel but not a huge dynamic variation - needs something else in the mix to give a bit more depth - maybe a nice choppy metal guitar - really helping to layer it on thick. The change is 2.47 is great though maybe comes 15 to 20 seonds too late. And I don't really want the groove to come back. Should have stayed in the freakout moment right until the end .... a good bare bones of a song, but only ok in realisation.
I know exactally what you mean, and I totally agree. Given more time, I would probably chop out some of the beginning part of the song and keep the 'hard' bit until the end. Unfortunately, this was about where I got to, but I was happy that I had at least got the basis down. I am intent on not flaking out!

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 11:24 pm
by Reist
This fight is awesome. I really doubt that I'll make it, based on what I've heard so far, but I'm just glad that I've had a chance to advance a bit of my sound with real drums, etc ... even if I'm gone, I'll still be following this fight and saving every entry. I think that Nur Ein really captures what songfight is meant to be. I hope we do another one.

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 11:30 pm
by Niveous
jolly roger wrote:This fight is awesome. I really doubt that I'll make it, based on what I've heard so far, but I'm just glad that I've had a chance to advance a bit of my sound with real drums, etc ... even if I'm gone, I'll still be following this fight and saving every entry. I think that Nur Ein really captures what songfight is meant to be. I hope we do another one.
there should be another one in a couple of days...

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 11:43 pm
by Reist
Niveous wrote:there should be another one in a couple of days...
I mean after the first Nur Ein has been decided and we could start a new round. We should have a hall of fame for the Nur Eins too.

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 12:04 am
by Spud
It's a good concept. Don't burn it out by doing them back to back. Give it a rest when this one is done. I mean, there is ONLY ONE, right? Let the champ have a reign. I will agree, however, that it is awesome. It seems to have brought out the best in everyone. Good Luck to all.

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 12:11 am
by Niveous
Spud wrote:It's a good concept. Don't burn it out by doing them back to back. Give it a rest when this one is done. I mean, there is ONLY ONE, right? Let the champ have a reign. I will agree, however, that it is awesome. It seems to have brought out the best in everyone. Good Luck to all.
Definitely, we are gonna take a rest afterwards. That's for sure.

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 12:50 am
by Leaf
jolly roger wrote:This fight is awesome. I really doubt that I'll make it, based on what I've heard so far, but I'm just glad that I've had a chance to advance a bit of my sound with real drums, etc ... even if I'm gone, I'll still be following this fight and saving every entry. I think that Nur Ein really captures what songfight is meant to be. I hope we do another one.
Well you certainly raised your game in my books, and I had expected you to bow out first round... (no offense by the way... it's about the song, not you) but still, if you make it past this round, it'll be interesting to see what you pull out of the hat.

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 12:42 pm
by Eric Y.
this competition has frightened me from about the third day of planning, due to its incredibly complex nature. i just wanted to thank those competitors who've chosen to also post their entries at somesongs, where i can listen to them without any rules that make my head hurt. all good stuff there so far!!

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 2:47 pm
by HeuristicsInc
you know, you can just listen to the songs anywhere without worrying about the rules... ;)
however, you have suggested a course of action.
-bill

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 2:55 pm
by Tex Beaumont
I finally got Ken's downloaded - still no Octothorpe though

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 3:14 pm
by Spud
I have had several rounds of troubleshooting of songhole with the hosting company, and I believe it is fixed. However, here is an alt. link:

http://www.mightyoctothorpe.com/music/O ... leeper.mp3

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 3:22 pm
by ken
Odd. I download them all, including my own, yesterday without any trouble.

Ken

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:05 pm
by Reist
It worked for me yesterday, but today I couldn't get Wreckdom's, Octothorpe's, or Deshead's songs.

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 4:17 pm
by Niveous
The Jury has selected the title:

Title: "El Balazo"
Due Date: March 29th at 1PM EST
Non-optional Challenge: Opposite Sex Vocals
Send a link to your completed song to nurein.sidefight@gmail.com

<b>THE BATTLE IS ON!!! NUR EIN!!!!</b>

Stage 1 was tough? Stage 2 was hellish? Want to get into Stage 4 without a fight? Then go for immunity:

<font color=red>IMMUNITY TRIVIA QUESTION:
Which band's album is this? Image

From the ashes of this band came a well hyped band, which led to two more hyped up bands. But this band didn't break-up. The band ended when two of their members died. You need a hint? Think afro. </font color>

Be the first to send your answer to nurein.sidefight@gmail.com and you will be immune until stage 4.

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 4:35 pm
by ken
I'm sorry, what does the non-optional challenge mean? Is Nur Ein a songwriting challenge, a production challenge or what? Seriously give some guidelines on this one.

Ken

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 4:37 pm
by Niveous
Get a woman to sing on your song (or do your best impersonation if you have to).

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 4:42 pm
by Leaf
Like falsetto...


I like the challenge...except that it flies in the face abit about the whole collab question from a while ago where I believe we were told that we couldn't have random guests... let's just say that the subtext of that was no collabs UNLESS specified in the challenge to get away from it.


By the way...the way in which the challenges get FUCKING harder each round... pretty daunting. I think this is more survivor than idol!!

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 4:45 pm
by Niveous
Leaf wrote:let's just say that the subtext of that was no collabs UNLESS specified in the challenge to get away from it.
Yes, let's say that.