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Good point, Albatross. I was including 8-tracks.

i have 14/100 in the time list, and 14/41 in leaf's list.

(the "own or once owned" thing would bump me up to 16/100).

and for the record, on the subject of paganini, his musical prowess notwithstanding, i am definitely led to believe he was far stronger than beethoven.

I own or have owned 0 of those. Yay for me, I'm not mainstream!

yay for me, i have a new signature.

Me too!

I have 53 of those albums, and probably should have another 20. Of course 1 have over 2000 CD's/ tapes/ Vinyl. So I had a good shot of having a lot.

As for Guitarists:

Frank Zappa- my favorite musician and composer and a damn good guitar player, though you can poke holes in his abilities, especially when it comes to playing over changes, he won't change keys, he hates it.

Yngwie Malmsteen- Poor bastard, always the example of technically prowess with no soul.

Steve Howe- Sloppy genius with high high high creativity, embraces everything Progressive music was about, one of my favorites, mostly because of his distinctive voice.

Jimi Hendrix- The first guy to embrace ALL of the noises you can make with an electric guitar. Fantastic Blues player, also a damn good songwriter. Wish I wrote anything on Axis Bold As Love.

Steve Morse- I think he's had the title more than Steve Howe, for guitar fundamentals the guy is just awesome.

Allen Holdsworth- Can't make a good recording, but all the forementioned guitarists when asked about Holdsworth admit they can't do what he does. I think he's the most technically amazing guitarist ever, and I love his music, but he's not my favorite, nor the most influential.

Robert Fripp-Arguably the most influential, certainly my biggest influence. He's also got some of the best quotes about the craft. I think he's the most original also. Can play minimalism better than anyone (Bowies Heroes) and is probably the darkest and most haunting when he wants to be (Starless).

Steve Vai- The most awe-struck I've ever been by a guitar solo was Vai at the Zappa plays Zappa show. If only this guy could get in a good band.

Django Rheinhart- the 1st guitar hero. This guy solos make you weep and your jaw drops with his proficiency then your mind is blown when you realize he only has 2 fingers on his fretting hand.

John McLaughlin- Usually my answer to who is the best guitarist. There's a song named after him on BITCHES BREW after all. Very well rounded and pretty much invented fusion (OK Miles Davis did, but with John as his guiatrist)

glennny wrote:Steve Vai- The most awe-struck I've ever been by a guitar solo was Vai at the Zappa plays Zappa show. If only this guy could get in a good band.

Whitesnake isn't a good band???

Whitesnake- a great cast, but I can't say I like the sum of it's parts. Not a good band in my book. He needs to stay away from metal, be it pop-metal or whatever. In a funky proggy setting like Zappa music is where he really shines. Unfortunately on all of his solo albums the rhythm section is tedious and boring in order to showcase him, which is too bad, because he doesn't need all that focus, and the songs suffer.

Rone Rivendale wrote:I own or have owned 0 of those. Yay for me, I'm not mainstream!

You're also not a very good songwriter. Why don't you at least have a listen to, say Revolver or Exile On Mainstreet - you know, just out of curiosity.

glennny wrote:John McLaughlin- Usually my answer to who is the best guitarist. There's a song named after him on BITCHES BREW after all. Very well rounded and pretty much invented fusion (OK Miles Davis did, but with John as his guiatrist)

And, who can say "scalloped frets"? He plays frickin' scalloped-fretted guitars just to make things more interesting and to facilitate micro-tonal sitar whack!

He's a god.

Caravan Ray wrote:

Rone Rivendale wrote:I own or have owned 0 of those. Yay for me, I'm 12 years old!

You're also not a very good songwriter. Why don't you at least have a listen to, say Revolver or Exile On Mainstreet - you know, just out of curiosity.

Amen Brother.

Amen.

I guess I own or "own" 33 of those.

("own" being a nice little euphemism for "have stolen." I don't know, I don't feel like a thief I guess.)

a bebop a rebop wrote:I guess I own or "own" 33 of those.

("own" being a nice little euphemism for "have stolen." I don't know, I don't feel like a thief I guess.)

Huh? I might have my scorecard mixed up but, aren't you a 20ish type? I think Im older then you I would have gone down the unholy 80s rock path if my buying behavior hadn't been influenced by much older siblings collections

I didnt intend such an obnoxious tone - im really interested in a Leaf list from someone with your prespective. ( unless you like rap, then just fuck off kid)

Funny you should say that, seeing as 36 Chambers, Cypress Hill's s/t, Vaudeville Villain, etc. are all candidates for my top 100.

So I started going through my list of albums and picking out my favorites, and I got 90 or so, and then trimmed it down to my very favorites, the ones I keep picking out over and over. The 90-list needs more work.
Caveats: must be something I own & must not be a compilation album.

bill's Top 11, alphabetical by artist:

• Delerium - Karma
  Depeche Mode - Ultra
  Brian Eno - Taking Tiger Mountain (by Strategy)
  He Said - Take Care
  The Jazz Butcher - Waiting for the Love Bus
  Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures
  King Crimson - Three of a Perfect Pair
  Love & Rockets - Lift
  Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
  Rosewater Elizabeth - Le Petit Morte
  Sumosonic - This is Sumo

This was kind of spur-of-the-moment.
-bill

Also, it seems I have 16 of the listed albums on CD.
-bill

Delerium - Karma
Depeche Mode - Ultra
Brian Eno - Taking Tiger Mountain (by Strategy)
He Said - Take Care
The Jazz Butcher - Waiting for the Love Bus
Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures
King Crimson - Three of a Perfect Pair
Love & Rockets - Lift
Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
Rosewater Elizabeth - Le Petit Morte
Sumosonic - This is Sumo

Great list of albums, I need to check out a few of them.

Some of those artisits are in my top 100, but different albums:

Taking Tiger Mountain over Another Green World?
Three of a Perfect Pair over Larks Tongue?
Lift over Earth Sun Moon?
Dark Side over Animals?

I've heard a bunch of stuff from that list, of course, but I've only owned eight of the albums, and the White Album might be the only one I still have. I wish I still had a copy of Paul's Boutique and Raising Hell though. I think so, anyway. I'm not sure how well Raising Hell has aged. I bet that Beastie Boys album is still a good listen.

And I agree with you, Glennny, on Another Green World being the superior Eno album. But I have to side with Bill on The Dark Side Of The Moon.

Yeah, it's possible e.g. Another Green World is more loved by more people, but I find myself playing TTMBS a lot more. Also, for some reason I haven't upgraded AGW from record to CD (tho I do have some of the songs on Vocal Box)... most of my rankings are based on gut feelings and getting the CD out to listen to more than some sort of analytical ranking of objective quality or influence.

The other albums glennny mentions are all great, but not my favorites by the bands. Many of these were tough to choose, though!

Oh, I forgot to mention the other caveat - only one album by a particular band could be on the list, or Pink Floyd e.g. would have more
-bill

I guess Another Green World reigns supreme to me for the way it changed my life. This was actually my introduction to Robert Fripp, that solo on St. Elmo's Fire is still my favorite solo of all time. I was blown away and inspired more than at any other music listening moment I think. So it's my favorite for the Fripp-ness of it, not to mention the Percy Jones stuff with Phil Collins forshadowing Brand X. All interlaced with brilliant quirk pop, it's my #3 album of all time. But I do love every one of those Eno albums, my 2nd favorite is probably Discrete Music though.

Couldn't help myself had to make a top 25 list-

1 Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention- One Size Fits All
2 Radiohead- OK Computer
3 Brian Eno- Another Green World
4 Jeff Buckley- Grace
5 Pink Floyd- Animals
6 David Bowie- Hunky Dory
7 King Crimson- Larks Tongue in Aspic
8 Rush- Moving Pictures
9 Joan of Arc- How Memory Works
10 Genesis- Foxtrot
11 Cornelius- Point
12 Django Reinhardt With Stephane Grappelli – Souvenirs
13 Mahavishnu Orchestra- Birds of Fire
14 Braid- Movie Music Volume One
15 Led Zeppelin- Houses of the Holy
16 Keith Jarrett- The Vienna Concert
17 Idiot Flesh- Fancy
18 Phish- Lawn Boy
19 Badly Drawn Boy- The Bewilderbeast
20 Joni Mitchell- Blue
21 Broken Social Scene- You Forgot it in People
22 Pinback- Blue Screen Life
23 Bjork- Homogenic
24 Yes- Close to the Edge
25 Talking Heads- Remain in Light

adrift in a draft wrote:

a bebop a rebop wrote:I guess I own or "own" 33 of those.

("own" being a nice little euphemism for "have stolen." I don't know, I don't feel like a thief I guess.)

Huh? I might have my scorecard mixed up but, aren't you a 20ish type? I think Im older then you I would have gone down the unholy 80s rock path if my buying behavior hadn't been influenced by much older siblings collections

I didnt intend such an obnoxious tone - im really interested in a Leaf list from someone with your prespective. ( unless you like rap, then just fuck off kid)

I was making a big 'ol list to be subsequently pruned but then I accidentally killed the window. So here's just a few off the top of my head, in roughly descending order of favoritism:

Slint - Spiderland
Aphex Twin - Drukqs and the Come to Daddy EP especially
Stephen Malkmus - Face the Truth
Elliot Smith - Figure 8
Leo Kottke - 6- and 12- String Guitar
mewithoutYou - Brother, Sister
Claude Debussy - especially Prelude to the Afternoon of a Faun
Stravinsky - Rite of Spring does it for me
Wu Tang Clan - Enter the 36 Chambers
J Dilla - Donuts
Radiohead - Kid A
The Beatles - Abbey Road and the White Album
Shostakovich - 5th Symphony and lots of other stuff
Talking Heads - 77
The Dirty Projectors - The Getty Address
The New Pornographers - Twin Cinema

These are the albums which force me to come back to them every so often to get my fix. No consideration for importance, influentiality, etc. Just what I like to listen to. All subject to change, of course. I'm not sure what my "perspective" is, though. I'm just this dude.