The Song Fight Bulletin Board

Leaf wrote:That' s not the only head that's hung on the hipcola.

I should know, he swam in my swimming pool.






That's not a metaphor, he really did swim in my pool.



Still not a metaphor. HEY!! THC!! Remember how we couldn't remember the name of our first band? It was "The Still". re-tar-ded.

What's this thread about again? Apologies and retribution? Ah... the number of fights. MORE!!!!

Leaf wrote:I should know, he swam in my swimming pool.






That's not a metaphor, he really did swim in my pool.

Although after he swam in your pool, I bet he "swam" in your "pool."

Classy.

Rabid, from some other recent thread wrote:I preferred multiple titles, for the surprise factor as well as the scatterbrained way I work (working on each one until one took over--though it made for a lot of incomprehensible notes... SF kills trees!).

Voted for two fights, as in the one-fight format it's really bummeriffic to get decent enough reviews--even while knowing you're still not going to get dick for votes--and then find out afterward you weren't actually in a SONGfight, but a FLOODfight, an ADVERTfight. The sour feeling at the core of that that has been discussed to death here already, but remains a drop of arsenic in the post-prandial review dessert...

Interesting... the fights that I'm remembering this feeling from were the multiple title ones... divide by zero, then reboot brain, duh...

And yes, I've hardly fought lately, &c., &c.

So, I guess what it is is I like more than one title. That way you can fit the whole fight on a single cd, heh.

i like options.
my 2 cents.

I like the variety. Mix it up

Not that it will change my 2 fights per year average much, but it has worked for my wife and I the last 20+ plus years.

Variety is the spice of life.

Dan-O from Five-O wrote:... it has worked for my wife and I the last 20+ plus years.

yes - there is nothing like continued marital conflict revolving around three different ever-changing subjects (I recall the "what we need more of is science" fight was was a doozy - as was "far from sucking"...)

Would two fights always have to have the same dates? Maybe one fight on Monday and another on Friday?

when there was 3 fights two of the titles were normally pretty bad, and one of them was pretty good. Now with 1 title there's less chance of a good title, which is why i haven't done a song in so long.

DJ Big Dick wrote:Now with 1 title there's less chance of a good title, which is why i haven't done a song in so long.

I just think that's kind of funny.

i'm not really fussed, though I have had more successful songs in multiple title SongFight than single title SongFight. Sucess, of course, is relative, in this instance.

I voted 2, because 2 does seem to be a happy middle ground.

So I voted three. Just because I liked the choice. Some of the fun was also in seeing who would be in the same fight with you. ("Crap - Boltoph chose the same title as me this week.") But I am aware that with 3 titles there were sometimes some pretty small fights. 3, 4, 5. For me, "Welcome_To" was sort of an event because all of a sudden we were all thrust into one title, and that was fun, too.

Tonight, after the 31 song fight came up (thanks for the stats post, Fluffy) I went and looked at the last few fights of the original single title era and I notice they are around 20-25 songs. So I'm wondering if was originally split because of a feeling the fights were too big (I kind of feel they are right now). If so, it seems to me that the same conditions apply now. If not, I guess I'd be curious to know why they were split and why a single title was restored. Perhaps that is already out here somewhere I haven't seen, so a direction to that content would be great.

There are some thoughts.

Oh, also, to lobby here, I see that the one title option has the most votes, but would be losing a "do you want one or more than one" poll (just sayin

rdurand wrote:So I'm wondering if was originally split because of a feeling the fights were too big (I kind of feel they are right now).

Yes, if I remember correctly there was a general feeling on the boards that the fights were becoming unwieldy so the FMs adjusted the number of titles to match the recent participants.

If not, I guess I'd be curious to know why they were split and why a single title was restored.

Either because certain whiners, for reasons that mystify me, kept pestering to go back to one fight, or because the FMs want to do less fights
-bill

who is whining? sounds like you.

Seriously. You're allowed to have opinions as long as they are the same as mine. Otherwise, you're a "whiner." That seems to be the prevailing attitude around here.

frankie big face wrote:Seriously. You're allowed to have opinions as long as they are the same as mine. Otherwise, you're a "whiner." That seems to be the prevailing attitude around here.

Hey Mr, if I want your opinion I'll give you one!
.....you mean like that?

HeuristicsInc wrote:
Either because certain whiners, for reasons that mystify me, kept pestering to go back to one fight, or because the FMs want to do less fights
-bill

well, i kind of expected this thread to be chock full of "whiners" (i.e. people with opinions) complaining (i.e. discussing) how big this fight is, and how it mandates the need for more than one fight. so far it's been quiet so i'm going to throw down some joe-friday logic and try to break this down in simple terms.

multiple fights means more work for the fightmasters
that's right, believe it or not, all of you people that feel the need for more fights are asking 2 very kind and upstanding guys that run this for free to give even more of their limited time and resources. gee, maybe the reason the fightmasters took a week to get the fights up was because they had to deal with multiple versions of the homepage, collecting multiple cover art, re-tagging and sorting multiple songs. personally, i feel like everyone that has "whined" (i.e. discussed) about multiple fights are doing so for their own selfish reasons (too many songs for ME to review, too many songs for ME to listen to, but seemingly all about the individual). really, how are mutiple fights better for everyone, the community at large and specifically the very benevolent fightmasters? it's more work for them.

it's called Songfight!
hey, lets just change the name of the site to Songfights! change the URL too. i won a songfight that had 2 other entries in it (and yes, this was after the change to multiple fights from the original formula). wow, i won a fight against 2 other artists. big whoop. hardly anyone probably listened to that fight, i know it got minimal reviews. a proud accomplishment indeed. would i rather have the satisfaction of winning a single fight, the only fight for that week. absolutely.

it's not about choice
don't like the title? uninspired? don't play. it's pretty simple. i was in 2 fights the past year. there was a time when i entered every week, sometimes multiple times under multiple names back when songfight was small. but now i enter only when i'm inspired. my muse dictates my participation, not a choice of titles.


prove me wrong. give me some real evidence and facts that having multiple fights is better for everyone and not just you. otherwise your opinion is a grain of salt to me.

jack wrote:who is whining? sounds like you.

sheesh, jack, get a grip, lookit the smiley i put on the line you quoted. observe the attempt at humor.
-bill

jack, get a grip, lookit the smiley

Sounds like an instructional introduction for emotipornz.

frankie big face wrote:Seriously...

You know, yr post could be misconstrued as sounding whiney. Just the use of the word 'seriously' makes one sound whiney. Now I am very aware that pretty much everything I post sounds whiney and I know you are not whiney, having met you. But using the word 'seriously' ... whiney!

Or is it spelt 'whiny'? Or 'Winey'?

Honestly, I think it is where you came into 'songfight' that matters. so FBF and Jack are one-fighters, because that's their first fight experience. Mine is two, so it's mine. Maybe not, but I'm trying to be conciliatory!

j$

j$ wrote:
it's all moot anyway, cos "THERE SHOULD BE AS MANY AS THE FIGHTMASTER FEELS IS APPROPRIATE"

j$

well, for what it's worth, i think you summed this all up the best.

Word!