The Song Fight Bulletin Board

i've been on myspace for forever, and haven't been on there in almost as long. but i found out recently that there is a new profile for Silent E, so i logged on with the purpose of adding that to my friends list. in the process, i also added half a slew of other songfight-related folks. so if you get a friend request message or whatever from some doofy looking dude named Eric, perhaps depicted wearing a kompressor t-shirt and playing bass, that'd be me. ignore or accept as applicable.

Well, I set up a separate myspace profile for my non-SF self: http://www.myspace.com/jenbigelow

Look out coffeeshops, I'm coming to git ya!

Oh hey, I forgot this thread was around.

I joined Myspace around the beginning of May this year.

http://www.myspace.com/ronerivendale

ME:

http://myspace.com/hoblit

My band:

http://myspace.com/ghosttowngridlock

Hoblit wrote:ME:

http://myspace.com/hoblit

My band:

http://myspace.com/ghosttowngridlock

your new band is awesome dude. so happy to hear you rockin out.

For the sake of bumping down the Gay Crates thread...

(Old) Catch: http://myspace.com/musicbycatch

Stupid myspace, now with even stupider music

new noise side project:

sucked into garbage bags

Perhaps this belongs in the "help and how to" forum. I have a beef with MySpace, and I need help!

I suspect that MySpace is recompressing the MP3s I'm uploading -- Why do I suspect this? Because the MP3s sound about 50% crappier after being uploaded to the myspace page. (Crunchies in the high end / overall fuzziness) ARRRRGH! It's killing my acousticore!

Does anyone know the secret to avoid this problem? Like, say, the target bitrate for MP3s that MySpace actually wants you to use? (I've been uploading 160... and just tried again with 128... but I'm still getting badness)

Perhaps I'm a moron, but I can't find any info on this issue in their "help" section.

Anyone got any idears?

[edit: OMG! I'm finally a real PIRATE!]

-eM

How do I put music on My Space?

I made a site but I dont know what to do with it


http://www.myspace.com/caravanray

I will answer this question, but only if someone answers mine from my post above!




Just kidding.


CR, you actually need to set up a music profile. As far as I know, you can't convert a regular profile to a music profile.

Just go here:

http://signup.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=bandjoin

And create a new profile.

--Em

anti-m wrote:I will answer this question, but only if someone answers mine from my post above!




Just kidding.


CR, you actually need to set up a music profile. As far as I know, you can't convert a regular profile to a music profile.

Just go here:

http://signup.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=bandjoin

And create a new profile.

--Em

OK - thanks. Didn't realise there were different types of accounts - I deleted my old site and started a music one

http://www.myspace.com/caravanraymusic

One used to be able to convert a user account to a music account (though it was one-way only, non-returnable, etc., etc.).

anti-m, I think the blittification of your music has to do with the Flash player's handling of the MP3 file. Don't remember what the lowest common denominator bitrate that Flash downsamples to.

I could be talking out my ass, of course. Last time I did anything with Flash was v3.x.

And thanks for the musical saw info!

I've tried several times to upload a longer song, but it never worked. It always said "processing" and when I checked back in a couple of days it said "There was an error. Please delete song and try again."

I added a shorter song yesterday and it worked right away though. So who knows? Myspace music is pretty buggy.

I've had a song on there listed as Processing for a year or so now.
Their Contact feature sucks.
-bill

HeuristicsInc wrote:I've had a song on there listed as Processing for a year or so now.
Their Contact feature sucks.
-bill

I think it works just as they intended it to.

Good point.
-bill

anti-m wrote:I suspect that MySpace is recompressing the MP3s I'm uploading -- Why do I suspect this? Because the MP3s sound about 50% crappier after being uploaded to the myspace page. (Crunchies in the high end / overall fuzziness) ARRRRGH! It's killing my acousticore!

Does anyone know the secret to avoid this problem? Like, say, the target bitrate for MP3s that MySpace actually wants you to use? (I've been uploading 160... and just tried again with 128... but I'm still getting badness)

I don't know how you'd avoid the problem, but just for fun, I used Ethereal to see where myspace was pulling my own mp3s from, which led me to this URL. I have no idea whether or not that link will actually work for you though, so I copied the resulting mp3 to my site.

Anyway, I downloaded that MP3, and ran mpginfo on it, where it shows up as:

Audio : Mpeg 2 layer 3
Estimated Duration: 01:44.80s
96 kbps 22050 Hz
Frame size: 313 bytes
Joint Stereo: (Intensity stereo off, M/S stereo on)
No emphasis, original

Mpginfo shows my "source recording" (pre-myspace-garbling) as:

Audio : Mpeg 1 layer 3
Estimated Duration: 01:44.79s
160 kbps 44100 Hz
Frame size: 522 bytes
Joint Stereo: (Intensity stereo off, M/S stereo on)
No emphasis, original
ID3 v1.0 tag

It looks like they used LAME 3.96.1 for their transcoding, based on a casual glance at the resulting mp3 file, but I can't be sure. And they stripped my ID3 tag! How wude!

So there's a chance that if you encode it at 96kbps, 22.05 khz, you MIGHT avoid some artifacts related to their re-encoding. But at any case, if your mp3 is anything like mine, this might help why it sounds as artifactilicious as it does.

I'm not sure what to make of the "mpeg 1" vs. "mpeg 2" piece, though.

Plat wrote:Lots of technobabble

I totally bow down to the power of your geekitude. That is one of the coolest pieces of web forensics I have seen in a long time. Kudos!!

stueym wrote: I totally bow down to the power of your geekitude. That is one of the coolest pieces of web forensics I have seen in a long time. Kudos!!

Indeed! Thanks for the detective work! I'm going to experiment with a couple of things...The MPEG 2 thing is mystifying, though. Are they hoping people will record quadraphonic stuff?

--Em

MARCUS KELLIS and the LEGITIMATE BUSINESSMEN now have a myspace presence I am proud(-ish) to share:

http://myspace.com/mkatlb

I can't, of course, be proud of anything myspacey. I made the thing a few months ago. But then I only made it look OK yesterday. but it looks OK now, so.