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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 8:13 am
by HeuristicsInc
I thought "all y'all" was the plural one.
Also, my neighbor always said "yous" which I think is slightly different from "youse".
-bill
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 9:00 am
by j$
HeuristicsInc wrote:Also, my neighbor always said "yous" which I think is slightly different from "youse".
-bill
How can you tell, if he was saying not writing it?
J$
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 9:51 am
by HeuristicsInc
The 'E' is not silent. Also, she.
"Yous" sounds like "yooz" and "youse" sounds like "yoose." I think.
Is this important?

-bill
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 10:00 am
by j$
HeuristicsInc wrote:The 'E' is not silent. Also, she.
"Yous" sounds like "yooz" and "youse" sounds like "yoose." I think.
Is this important?

-bill
Yooz = yoose the way I would say them.
Is anything?

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 10:20 am
by Leaf
Youse guys stopped complaining... or maybe not... I dunno.
My suggestion of the day: MORE MUSIC.
Of course, this is directed at myself. Hopefully this week will bring that about and YOUSE all can potentially enjoy it.
Or not.
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 10:33 am
by Jim of Seattle
Whenever anyone says "youse" it makes me think of that lead guy on Sha Na Na with the huge mouth who sort of dressed like Fonzy.
And "y'all" makes me think of Hee Haw.
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 10:39 am
by Leaf
Bouser.
Bowser.
That's his name anyway. I loved that show as a kid...dip dip dip dow... sha na na na, sha na na na na na.
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 3:05 pm
by JonPorobil
The plural form of you is "Y'all." If someone tries to tell you that "y'all" is singular, or to use "All y'all," then bitch slap them for me. Jeff Foxworthy will back me up on this (The Southern Dictionary, or whatever that god-awful book is called, has a page-long rant about how the word "y'all" is STRICTLY a plural pronoun).
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 3:34 pm
by HeuristicsInc
joke, joneric, joke!
where's that "these are the jokes" picture... that should be an emoticon.
-bill
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 3:44 pm
by JonPorobil
Yeah, so was mine.

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 3:55 pm
by Leaf
Generic wrote:Yeah, so was mine.

No, I don't think so man. I think you were serious. Yeah, and now you're trying to cover up... but we're on to you.
Damn Leetist, think you're better than everyone....
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 4:12 pm
by erik
Generic wrote:The plural form of you is "Y'all." If someone tries to tell you that "y'all" is singular, or to use "All y'all," then bitch slap them for me. Jeff Foxworthy will back me up on this (The Southern Dictionary, or whatever that god-awful book is called, has a page-long rant about how the word "y'all" is STRICTLY a plural pronoun).
Can I just bitchslap you instead, because "all y'all" is a perfectly acceptable phrase, and the meaning is quite different from "y'all". You live in Ohio.
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 4:12 pm
by Mogosagatai
Whether Joneric was joking or not, I firmly agree that "y'all" is only to be used as a plural. "All y'all" is clearly redundant--"all you all." I say "y'all" regularly. It's quite useful.
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 4:17 pm
by erik
If standing before a group of people, and I say "I hate you", this can have many meanings: I hate one of you, or I hate some of you, or I hate all of you.
If standing before a group of people, and I say " I hate y'all": this can mean different things: I hate some of you, I hate all of you.
If I say "I hate all y'all", that means that I hate the entire group of people.
Y'all != all of you
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 4:21 pm
by Leaf
What's this thread about again?
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 4:23 pm
by erik
i hate all y'all
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 4:36 pm
by Leaf
Right.
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 4:59 pm
by Eric Y.
#1: despite being a contraction for "you all", "y'all" is clearly just a plural form of "you". "all y'all" or "all of y'all" (or more commonly "alla y'all") is not redundant, it clearly indicates not just a couple of y'all but ALL of y'all.
#2:
Puce wrote:J$ ... said "I know this is the right place for it 'n'all, but sheesh, guys, does the grass always have to be greener?". ... I read J$'s question as "Does it always have to be so negative all the time?"
i didn't see it that way; to me it seemed more like "everyone has suggestions for how things could be improved for them, but can't we just be happy with the way things are?" i.e., the grass appears it would be greener on the other side (the other side being an alternate version of songfight with longer fights or with three or two weekly fights or WHATEVER the suggestion du jour is) but can't we be happy with the grass we have now?
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 5:41 pm
by Jim of Seattle
Since you asked the thread was originally my suggestion the we have one title every few months or so wherein we get a 3 week deadline, to throw a bone to:
* people who are too busy to work up a song in a week
* people who want to collaborate with another songfighter and need that extra time
* people who wish they could work a little more on a song sometimes
* bands who can only meet once a week
* people who are interested in writing something a little longer
* people who don't want to submit just anything and hold themselves to a higher standard than one week usually permits
* overworked fightmasters who can rest from setting up new fights for a couple weeks
I also suggested advance notice of when these long fights would be so people could plan on them (but no advance notice of what the title is, of course).
(I also bitched a bit because too many people, including FM's, failed to agree that it's a good idea.)
On the other topic, you could say "all y'all" as in "I wanted to have longer fights every once in a while but all y'all could say in response was it was a bad idea."
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 5:42 pm
by Adam!
Voice: Meh, synonyms. Negative all the time = Unhappy all the time = Unhappy no matter what. I think we're talking about the same thing. The problem with telling people they should be happy is that it doesn't ever make them happy. However, giving people chocolate usually does. Unfortunately I have yet to discover how to give someone chocolate over the internet. If anyone has found a way, feel free to test it out on me.

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 6:04 pm
by Eric Y.
i'm pretty sure the question of this thread's purpose was sarcastic.
furthermore, if you wanted to emphasise the overwhelmingly negative response from EVERYONE:
"I wanted to have longer fights every once in a while but all all y'all could say in response was it was a bad idea."
Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 6:10 pm
by j$
tviyh] [quote="Puce wrote:J$ ... said "I know this is the right place for it 'n'all, but sheesh, guys, does the grass always have to be greener?". ... I read J$'s question as "Does it always have to be so negative all the time?"
i didn't see it that way; to me it seemed more like "everyone has suggestions for how things could be improved for them, but can't we just be happy with the way things are?" i.e., the grass appears it would be greener on the other side (the other side being an alternate version of songfight with longer fights or with three or two weekly fights or WHATEVER the suggestion du jour is) but can't we be happy with the grass we have now?[/quote]
To be honest I can't recall exactly what slightly psychotic self-obsessed trip I was on when I posted it

I think I meant (concentrating now) 'why are we having this ocnversation? The fightmasters have made their decision, and the loveliness of songfight has not diminished considerably as a result. Can't we just enjoy the coolest web place that I have yet to come across (at least the coolest that doesn't involve naked people)?' taking into account that I was one of the people who a mere few pages earlier was having a right old moan about going back to two fights.
I hope that answers the question. Although, it must be admitted, I like the confusion
J$
ps I can't figure out how to close the quotes on this properly. sorry.