Gray, or is it Grey? (prefight)

Reist · Post by **Reist** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:29 pm

mc eric b - Why don't you capitalize Blue anymore?

MC Eric B · Post by **MC Eric B** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:27 pm

jolly roger - I noticed he does not capitalize it in his username, so I figured that is how he wants to be addressed. No hidden meaning behind the change.

halen99 · Post by **halen99** » Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:58 pm

Hey fellers. Did I mention I was in on this fight?

Ross · Post by **Ross** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 12:06 am

blue wrote: eric b is neither a songwriter nor a musician. that, not where his beats come from, is the problem.

Dude, what's the high horse about? He's doing the best he can. He enters the fight. He loses the fight. He lives to fight another day.

I believe this is an actual song - he wrote it. Can you tell me who he plagiarized from? I don't think it's an especially good song (MC Eric B - PM me for specific feedback) but what makes you say this is not a song????

http://www.rossdurand.com/mcericb_cover.mp3

My 3 cents

Ross

blue · Post by **blue** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:35 am

rdurand wrote:I believe this is an actual song - he wrote it. Can you tell me who he plagiarized from?

the dude said a) he is a songwriter, not a musician, and b) he can't play any instruments. so either he is a musician and plays the piano or this is loops and auto-accompany.

i thought it was hilariously ironic that mostess was identifying with the dude as a fellow songwriter.

eric's been a good sport about it.

Mostess · Post by **Mostess** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:24 am

blue wrote:i thought it was hilariously ironic that mostess was identifying with the dude as a fellow songwriter.

eric's been a good sport about it. :lol:

Fight! Fight!

To be honest, I haven't even listened to his stuff. But I am intensely self conscious of my poor percussion skills and find it the most difficult part of recording. So I resonated with his issue.

He is a great sport, though. A true N00b would have been playing right into your hand with a bunch of "hey! what I ever do to you!??! I have the right to do anything and call it whatever I want!"

Eric B- "Melody" typically refers to an arrangement of pitches that lies over the metered time. A pianist commonly plays a bass line and rhythm with the left hand and the melody with the right. Mozart bragged that his left hand was machine-like and faithful to the beat while his right hand could decelerate and accelerate the melody expressively. The latter is "melody". Sounds like you're referring to the former; given that you're doing it with samples and drum loops, I'd use "pattern" or "ostinato".

As for the prefight, I'm obviously in. And I'll take my answer off the air.

Mostess · Post by **Mostess** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:44 am

WesDavis wrote:
Mostess wrote: Les Anchois actually won!
It was a dead tie! I haven't heard your version in a long time, but I remember being very surprised our tied for the lead, since it seemed like a lot of folks didn't like it all that much.

It does help to link up with someone who does electronic stuff though, with regard to the rest of your post there. I find my songs are generally far better received when I have that stuff in there.

I've edited my post. You are right. I'm assuming you're surprised that ours got so many votes (Your typo is hard to parse. Maybe you were surprised that yours got so many?).

I was surprised, too. My wife hates it. But I do consider it one of the more successful Hostess Mostess genre experiments. And I remember writing it while painting the kitchen. It was fume-inspired. But definitely it would have been better if I'd (gasp) collaborated with someone who makes good rhythms.

MC Eric B · Post by **MC Eric B** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:07 am

Ross - I love your version of my "Couldn't Have Been Worse" song!!!

Blue - Ross's version of my song proves my point that I am a songwriter, not just a lyricist. He could have taken my lyrics and made a totally different sounding song, but instead he used almost the same exact melody/tune that I created, just with different background music (his guitar) and better sung vocals. His version is more like a "unplugged" version. Since my lyrics are somewhat poetic, this works very well for the song.

Mostess - In regards to a "melody", what I am trying to say is that there is a difference between just writing only lyrics, and writing the tune/melody for the song. I maybe am not saying it correctly, but when I write my lyrics, I also create a melody/tune for them in my head. I really don't care much about the pattern of the drum or how the loop sounds. Even if I were to sing my song acappella, it would still have the same melody/tune. I just add catchy background music because, well, that's part of what makes it a song. Nobody wants to hear me sing acappella

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As for the me being a "musician" or not, since I write and perform my own songs I guess by default that makes me a musician. But, I don't want to put myself in the same category as real musicians (like Ross and most other songfighters) who play their own instruments and play in bands, so I don't want to call myself a musician on a forum filled with people who are all at a totally different level.

Reist · Post by **Reist** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 7:00 am

So ... where's the fight? I normally wouldn't ask since I know where it is, but I'm just really excited for this one.

WesDavis · Post by **WesDavis** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:17 am

Mostess wrote:
WesDavis wrote:
Mostess wrote: Les Anchois actually won!
It was a dead tie! I haven't heard your version in a long time, but I remember being very surprised our tied for the lead, since it seemed like a lot of folks didn't like it all that much.

It does help to link up with someone who does electronic stuff though, with regard to the rest of your post there. I find my songs are generally far better received when I have that stuff in there.
I've edited my post. You are right. I'm assuming you're surprised that ours got so many votes (Your typo is hard to parse. Maybe you were surprised that yours got so many?).

I was surprised, too. My wife hates it. But I do consider it one of the more successful Hostess Mostess genre experiments. And I remember writing it while painting the kitchen. It was fume-inspired. But definitely it would have been better if I'd (gasp) collaborated with someone who makes good rhythms.

Heh, sorry, I meant that I was surprised that my version got that many votes. I meant to say "ours" because that was in Pipefist, which is a collaborative project between a friend of mine and me. He does all the electronic stuff, and I just lend guitar and vocals, and generally write the melodies, lyrics, and structure of each song. Coincidentally, my ex-fiance hated my Les Anchois entry too! Also I just went back to listen to your Les Anchois again, and it was quite enjoyable.

Also Ross that MC eric B cover is pretty awesome. Your 3 cents were well spent.

blue · Post by **blue** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:02 pm

knowing that a career cybersquatter is songfighting has sapped spud's will to update.

poor spud. eric, you suck.

Post by **Lunkhead** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:56 pm

All hail the totally open democratic format that is SongFight!

Billy's Little Trip · Post by **Billy's Little Trip** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 2:01 pm

Lunkhead wrote:All hail the totally open democratic format that is SongFight!

hear hear!

blue · Post by **blue** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 2:08 pm

Lunkhead wrote:All hail the totally open democratic format that is SongFight!

cue gripe in 5... 4... 3..

wages · Post by **wages** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 3:57 pm

Lunkhead wrote:All hail the totally open democratic format that is SongFight!

I'll drink to that!

WesDavis · Post by **WesDavis** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:37 pm

Wages wrote:
Lunkhead wrote:All hail the totally open democratic format that is SongFight!
I'll drink to that!

I'll drink to your mother, naked!

(Am I naked or is she? A MYSTERY FOR THE AGES!)

wages · Post by **wages** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:07 am

WesDavis wrote:
Wages wrote:
Lunkhead wrote:All hail the totally open democratic format that is SongFight!
I'll drink to that!
I'll drink to your mother, naked!

(Am I naked or is she? A MYSTERY FOR THE AGES!)

You probably want to be, and trust me when I say this, the naked one.

Personally, I don't want to see either of you naked!!

Oust The Mods · Post by **Oust The Mods** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:30 am

blue wrote:
Lunkhead wrote:All hail the totally open democratic format that is SongFight!
cue gripe in 5... 4... 3..

2...1

OK you shits! What's going on?

I haven't read a thing in this thread but I smelled my name being spoken.

What can I do for you?

furrypedro · Post by **furrypedro** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:36 am

I think Lunkhead gets 3 wishes

Oust The Mods · Post by **Oust The Mods** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:40 am

MC Eric B wrote:rdurand - I totally agree with you, but everytime I use a premade hip-hop beat some songfighters give me crap about it, and some even refuse to review my songs because of that. Since I am a songwriter, not a musician, I would rather just focus on writing good songs, so using a premade beat is a big help.

A song consists of words and a melody.

You should just submit your song accapella.

If I were an elected official here we would institute a program that would include one assignment that required an accapella submission.

anti-m · Post by **anti-m** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:44 am

Oust The Mods wrote:
blue wrote:
Lunkhead wrote:All hail the totally open democratic format that is SongFight!
cue gripe in 5... 4... 3..
2...1

Woah! Spooky! BTW, I love that OTM has his very own "Troll" designation in his profile. Are we sure OTM isn't JB?

Oust The Mods · Post by **Oust The Mods** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:45 am

If you people are having trouble it is not my fault.

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