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Re: 05/14/10 - Zephyr Vegetarian Cafe - Long Beach

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 7:14 pm
by Ross
Welcome to socal.

Mike and Irwin have put together some sort of franken-PA that uses a laptop as the mixer, they were also going to record through it, so i am not sure how jakcing your machine into that will work.

I plan to get there around 4:30 or five myself. If you get ther before me, ask for Breck, he is a personal friend and knows we are coming.

The alleged BBQ is still on.

Um what to do in long beach? Well, there's the Queen Mary, a decent aquarium, you might be able to catch a harbor cruise or whale watching trip, supposedly there's Russian submarine somewhere.

Looking forward to seeing you/meeting you again.

My cell is 714-323-8125

Re: 05/14/10 - Zephyr Vegetarian Cafe - Long Beach

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 7:16 pm
by MintyHandy
I'll be there around 5; I'm working in Carlsbad that day, so I won't have far to go. I can't help you with the touristy stuff, though.

Re: 05/14/10 - Zephyr Vegetarian Cafe - Long Beach

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 7:21 pm
by Steve Durand
Well for touristy type things, the aquarium there is really good.

And it's practically right across the street from the Hyatt

Re: 05/14/10 - Zephyr Vegetarian Cafe - Long Beach

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 7:23 pm
by fluffy
Oh, if recording is already covered, then my laptop could be used for streaming instead, then. Is the recording just going to be a board feed or will there be room mics too?

I'll have to check the aquarium out. Tomorrow. Tonight I'm spent. Most of the drive was wonderful, but then I got to LA, and then I was stuck in traffic, but I repeat myself.

Re: 05/14/10 - Zephyr Vegetarian Cafe - Long Beach

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 7:59 pm
by Ross
I think irwin and mike were hoping to run room micas as well.

We like the aquarium, you can pet sharks :-)

Re: 05/14/10 - Zephyr Vegetarian Cafe - Long Beach

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:25 pm
by fluffy
Excellent. Sounds like I overprepared, but better to have too much gear than not enough. (And really I could have fit a LOT MORE in my car.)

Re: 05/14/10 - Zephyr Vegetarian Cafe - Long Beach

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 11:51 pm
by fluffy
Ross wrote:Looking forward to seeing you/meeting you again.
Okay this line has been bugging me since I first saw it. Have we actually met in person before? I don't remember you being at any SFLives, and I think on the various tours you always stopped before I started. Am I going to feel like a total ass tomorrow? Or was it just a generic shout-out to everyone who's coming?

I mean I have neurological problems with this but that doesn't stop me from fretting about these things (maybe it makes me fret more?).

Re: 05/14/10 - Zephyr Vegetarian Cafe - Long Beach

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 12:02 am
by j$
I'm here! See you all for the first time tomorrow!

Re: 05/14/10 - Zephyr Vegetarian Cafe - Long Beach

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 12:09 am
by Ross
fluffy wrote:
Ross wrote:Looking forward to seeing you/meeting you again.
Okay this line has been bugging me since I first saw it. Have we actually met in person before? I don't remember you being at any SFLives, and I think on the various tours you always stopped before I started. Am I going to feel like a total ass tomorrow? Or was it just a generic shout-out to everyone who's coming?

I mean I have neurological problems with this but that doesn't stop me from fretting about these things (maybe it makes me fret more?).
We were both at songfight presents LA, February 2006. I was still pretty new then and there were a lot of people there, I'm not sure we did more than shake hands and say nice to meet you.

Don't feel like an ass, no offense taken.

Re: 05/14/10 - Zephyr Vegetarian Cafe - Long Beach

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 12:13 am
by fluffy
Oh, right! Now I remember. That was a crazy event. I have pictures. (Not in them: the craziness.)
j$ wrote:I'm here! See you all for the first time tomorrow!
I'm looking forward to it!

Re: 05/14/10 - Zephyr Vegetarian Cafe - Long Beach

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 12:21 am
by Ross
I was this guy

Re: 05/14/10 - Zephyr Vegetarian Cafe - Long Beach

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 12:32 am
by fluffy
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SO CRAZY
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so who's this guy?

Re: 05/14/10 - Zephyr Vegetarian Cafe - Long Beach

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 12:43 am
by Ross
He was from Moxie Prophets. Good rock guitarist.

Check out this link they posted the whole show


http://moxieprophets.com/songfight/

Re: 05/14/10 - Zephyr Vegetarian Cafe - Long Beach

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 12:49 am
by fluffy
For some reason I thought that was your brother but I guess it's a different Steve! Huh.

That show was before I finally learned how to use a guitar pick, and I was still doing that limp-wristed fingerstrumming thing that made me look even faggier than I am. Also my fashion [lack of] sense has changed (marginally). PREPARE TO HAVE YOUR MINDS BLOWN.

Anyway, bedtime for me. I think everyone here has my cellphone number, if they want to meet up for lunch or whatever.

Re: 05/14/10 - Zephyr Vegetarian Cafe - Long Beach

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 10:24 am
by irwin
fluffy wrote:Oh, if recording is already covered, then my laptop could be used for streaming instead, then. Is the recording just going to be a board feed or will there be room mics too?
Bring your mics, and we'll feed them into the board as room mics. We can send a mix of the stage and room mics and the direct inputs to your laptop for the stream audio. What kind of inputs do you need? Output would be 1/8" line level. All tracks would also be recorded.

Re: 05/14/10 - Zephyr Vegetarian Cafe - Long Beach

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 11:09 am
by fluffy
irwin wrote:
fluffy wrote:Oh, if recording is already covered, then my laptop could be used for streaming instead, then. Is the recording just going to be a board feed or will there be room mics too?
Bring your mics, and we'll feed them into the board as room mics. We can send a mix of the stage and room mics and the direct inputs to your laptop for the stream audio. What kind of inputs do you need? Output would be 1/8" line level. All tracks would also be recorded.
1/8" line level is fine. I'd prefer dual mono 1/4" or dual xlr, but 1/8 line is probably going to be the easiest.

Re: 05/14/10 - Zephyr Vegetarian Cafe - Long Beach

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 11:38 am
by irwin
fluffy wrote:
irwin wrote:
fluffy wrote:Oh, if recording is already covered, then my laptop could be used for streaming instead, then. Is the recording just going to be a board feed or will there be room mics too?
Bring your mics, and we'll feed them into the board as room mics. We can send a mix of the stage and room mics and the direct inputs to your laptop for the stream audio. What kind of inputs do you need? Output would be 1/8" line level. All tracks would also be recorded.
1/8" line level is fine. I'd prefer dual mono 1/4" or dual xlr, but 1/8 line is probably going to be the easiest.
Sorry, brain fart. Output will be a pair of 1/4". We can also output spidif if that's easier.

Re: 05/14/10 - Zephyr Vegetarian Cafe - Long Beach

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 11:41 am
by fluffy
Ah, even better (the dual 1/4" I mean). I don't have s/pdif on my portable interface but that's okay, this is just for streaming a lo-fi indie rock performance to the Internet so I don't really see that making a difference.

Note that the mics I brought for room-mic purposes are condensers and need phantom power. Will that be a problem?

Re: 05/14/10 - Zephyr Vegetarian Cafe - Long Beach

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 11:54 am
by MintyHandy
I'm going to be recording parts of the show by duct-taping a Flip to the wall, so my kids can see what goes on. This is not useful information to any of you, but it's a good reminder to me that I need some duct tape.

EDIT: Ah, I wish I had thought of the possible need for phantom power. I have a 4-pot mixer at home (that I hadn't even thought of before) with phantom power, but I'm in Carlsbad now. Grr. *IF* we're screwed without phantom power, let me know ASAP (cell's 323-841-4307) and I'll make the long drive back to get it -- but if we're not screwed, don't do that. :P

Re: 05/14/10 - Zephyr Vegetarian Cafe - Long Beach

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 12:00 pm
by fluffy
Well, we might be able to work something else out with the signal path or something. My portable interface does do phantom power, and it can act as a mixer as long as it's plugged into a computer (via FireWire). Unfortunately, that means we wouldn't be able to use it for streaming directly.

My original plan (when I thought I'd be recording the show) was to just have an RCA or 1/8" line from the board to my interface's line input (3/4), and have the room mics on its 1/2, and then let someone else capture the mixed output onto their computer for streaming while I recorded them all to discrete channels so I could do a better mix after-the-fact.

Maybe we should meet up at the venue a bit earlier so that we have a bit more time to work this stuff out? 5:00 would only give us two hours, and that's not sounding like it's enough now. :)

Re: 05/14/10 - Zephyr Vegetarian Cafe - Long Beach

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 12:02 pm
by Ross
I am bringing a small mixer with phantom power, and my guitar pre also has phantom power, although I'll be using when I play since my pick up is passive.

Re: 05/14/10 - Zephyr Vegetarian Cafe - Long Beach

Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 12:29 pm
by fluffy
Maybe I should just stream with the room mics only, and let ustream record it.