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I can't find the Steamboy thread

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 1:02 pm
by furrypedro
Finally got to see Steamboy last night and I'm a bit ashamed 'cause it was just a download by one of my friends, but I am definitley going to buy the DVD when it's out and I'm not much of a dvd-completist.

I have to admit that I found Akira to be probably the most impressive film I have ever seen so I was just a teeny bit excited at the prospect of something that Katsuhiro Otomo had spent the best part of 15 years making. In spite of the inferior quality of the copy it was still visually absolutely stunning and I know that with a decent copy I could spend hours marvelling at some of the backgrounds and drawings. It was of a suitably epic length too so I'm sure there'll be plenty to get my teeth into during repeated viewings.

*spoiler warning*
It was always going to be difficult to write a storyline with the gravitas to match something like Akira, and Steamboy has a fair go but I did feel it fell short by a hairs breadth, partly down to the behaviour of some of the characters. The Steamcastle, for example, is the most ridiculously OTT machine I've ever seen in the context of any film, and it could have been utilised to massive effect; but (and I suppose this could have been an intentional character flaw) Ray's father is a bit carried away and I think he blew his load far too early (even though this did prevent the film from going on for a ridiculous length of time - I could have handled it, I'm not sure many would). I assume that the conclusion is a commentary on the folly of man and machines, ziggurats, Titanic type stuff; but I have difficulty with the concept of someone getting impatient wanting to show off their life's work and having it crash/explode in the Thames. oh well, if it was anybody else directing I'd say it was a perfect setup for space-based steamy shenanigans in a sequel; as it is I look forward to being 37 when the next one comes out.

small points: - Anna Paquin and her dodgy semi-lancastrian accent - kind of endearing but only cos Ray's good, otherwise just irritating. Patrick Stewart on the other hand was quality casting.
- like Akira-meets-Chaos Engine-meets-FF7. the mere concpet of this is enough to make me excited. okay, so it's not nearly as hardcore as FF7, but all the imagery and mega-valves and stuff was spot on.
- I think it's so cool that it's set in 1866 Manchester, not the most obvious sci-fi settings which adds to the originality. (not enough talk of "working down t'pit" for my liking tho) I can't wait to see this with my cousin; oh those northerners and their silly accents :wink:

good stuff, goooood stuff

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 2:19 pm
by Eric Y.
completely off-topic post, sorry.

dude! i'm surprised nobody thought of this before, but i was bored so i made you a birthday present. enjoy. oh but please download it and put it someplace else if you want to keep it because i'll probably delete it before forever.

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Re: I can't find the Steamboy thread

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 6:36 am
by Adam!
Furrypedro wrote:I found Akira to be probably the most impressive film I have ever seen
If you haven't, read the comic. Vastly superior to the movie, imo. Plus the titular character is actually in it.

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:18 am
by furrypedro
tviyh wrote:completely off-topic post, sorry.

dude! i'm surprised nobody thought of this before, but i was bored so i made you a birthday present. enjoy. Image
hahaha! that's so cool. thankyou!
I'm surprised nobody thought of it before, but I remember Albatross gave me a warning as a noob about referencing that film so I thought it would be wise to leave it.
cheers dude :D
Puce wrote:If you haven't, read the comic. Vastly superior to the movie, imo.
I'll check it out. dunno why I haven't already
Puce wrote:Plus the titular character is actually in it
that does help doesn't it

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 6:18 pm
by nyjm
steamboy was very cool, but i think it hit on its main flaws pretty well there. the philsophic parts seem important, but grafte don clumsily. "akira" outshines it by a mile.

now, if you want to see some much better commentaries about industrialization and the dangers (and hope) of technology, check out miyazaki, especially "castle in the sky", "naussica", "princess mononoke" and his latest "howl's moving castle."

heck, check out everything he's done. disney/john lasseter (from pixar) have been doing a good job of releasing the DVDs in the states.

the two "ghost in the shell" movies are pretty good, too, though much more philsophic.

Re: I can't find the Steamboy thread

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 6:45 pm
by the Jazz
Puce wrote:
Furrypedro wrote:I found Akira to be probably the most impressive film I have ever seen
If you haven't, read the comic. Vastly superior to the movie, imo. Plus the titular character is actually in it.
Yes. Having read the comic first, I could not appreciate the movie. It's like if Peter Jackson had done the LotR trilogy as a three part half-hour TV miniseries. The special effects would still be cool, but so what?

I can't find the Manga thread

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 8:27 pm
by Adam!
the Jazz wrote:Having read [Akira] first, I could not appreciate the movie.
I saw the movie first, and I enjoyed it. And the comic is great. But I can't even compare the two: the plot diverges so dramaticly that I don't even consider them the same thing. Once I started thinking of the movie as 'Inspired By' the source material, I found I could appreciate it on it's own level.

Now, if you want a really brutal adaptation, look no further than here. I predict.

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 1:34 am
by HeuristicsInc
Mmmm... Battle Angel.
I've been a fan of that for a while, so that should be interesting.
-bill

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:07 am
by Adam!
HeuristicsInc wrote:Battle Angel
I just hope the movie doesn't butcher the antagonists like the OAVs did.

Did you read the alternate (aka REAL) ending Kishiro put out recently?

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 8:44 am
by HeuristicsInc
i've actually not read all the manga yet.
i think i have up to vol. 4 or something.... i should get back on it.
-bill