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Long shot, but:

Anyone else having this problem? In Virtual Guitarist if you record a note with a high velocity, the guitar plays syncopated. You can set the threshhold at which this happens. But my guitar part seems to arbitrarily play random bars syncopated sometimes, even though every Midi note has the exact same velocity. Changing the threshhold can change it from bad to worse. Anyone else have this problem?

Yep. Never found a solution, so i bought a real guitar.

Sorry.

Jim of Seattle wrote:Anyone else having this problem? In Virtual Guitarist if you record a note with a high velocity, the guitar plays syncopated. You can set the threshhold at which this happens. But my guitar part seems to arbitrarily play random bars syncopated sometimes, even though every Midi note has the exact same velocity. Changing the threshhold can change it from bad to worse. Anyone else have this problem?

Can't say I have tbh (and I use VG a hell of a lot). The only thing I can think of is that it also uses the mod wheel to alternate styles within a player, are you sure the part you're playing has no modulation attached to it?

Have you tried assigning the channel to a different instrument and listening to see if any of the notes have an unexpected velocity/modulation in that? If that all sounds OK, then it looks like you've found a bug in VG. The only work-around I can think of is to hand-stitch the part using channel 16 mode.

obscurity wrote:Have you tried assigning the channel to a different instrument and listening to see if any of the notes have an unexpected velocity/modulation in that? If that all sounds OK, then it looks like you've found a bug in VG. The only work-around I can think of is to hand-stitch the part using channel 16 mode.

Hmmm. I'm pretty sure that there aren't going to be any unexpected velocities, because I looked at each event in event list view, and didn't see anything.

The manual actually comes out and tells you the channel 16 mode is hard to do. Is it? How do I do it? Because I think if it were something I could get the hang of, I'd use it exclusively. I'm a control freak when it comes to music. (Ask anyone who's had the misfortune of trying to collaborate with me...)

Jim of Seattle wrote: Hmmm. I'm pretty sure that there aren't going to be any unexpected velocities, because I looked at each event in event list view, and didn't see anything.

Yeah, I wasn't trying to suggest you hadn't been careful in checking, but just trying to find a way to figure if it was a bug in VG or not. I guess it's the tech support side of me showing.

Jim of Seattle wrote:The manual actually comes out and tells you the channel 16 mode is hard to do. Is it? How do I do it? Because I think if it were something I could get the hang of, I'd use it exclusively. I'm a control freak when it comes to music. (Ask anyone who's had the misfortune of trying to collaborate with me...)

I guess how hard it is has a lot to do with how you work and how fluent you are with your sequencer (or keyboard, I guess, if you actually *play* stuff rather than sequencing it all like me :) ). To me, it's not so much hard as it is tedious. I've used it a bit and I'll have no hesitation in using it again if the need arises, but I prefer to let VG do the work if it'll play ball.

How it works is that VG interprets events on channel 16 in a different way. The keyboard is split into two zones (I can't remember where the split point is offhand, you'll need to experiment or RTFM for that). One one zone, you play the chords just like you would in normal use. However, instead of causing VG to start playing that chord in whatever style you've set, it just tells it to respond to events in the other zone with samples of that chord playing.

It's best to just try it - set your keyboard/sequencer up so you're sending on channel 16 to VG, hold down a chord in the 'chord' zone and start playing notes in the other zone, and listen to what you get.