More or Less Government Control

Eric Y. · Post by **Eric Y.** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 1:53 pm

hahaha, indeed.

huh?

Egg · Post by **Egg** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 5:45 am

More or Less imply relative comparisons to the status quo when the poll was posted. People have correctly pointed out that it doesn't specify which government or control of whom, but that is not a shortcoming. This is a specific ambiguity (teehee) in the poll. There should probably be a preserve the status quo option. That's a shortcoming. Also, none is just an extreme answer of less so there should be a "total" answer to make an extreme more choice available.

I went with less. Ultimately, when a government lacks total control, people can challenge it's legitimacy and change it. Like the ADA. A minority group of people (a disabilitied one at that) convinced the government to spend a lot of money forcing a lot of other people to spend a lot of money to make life significantly fairer for folks with handicaps. Success stories are beautiful. If the government had NO control, it would be harder for those proponents of the ADA to convince people to have wheelchair ramps and doors that use handles instead of knobs. But if the government had TOTAL control, it wouldn't give a shit about the measly number of less productive handicapped people in the country. Both of these extremes are pretty unlikely and useless, but that's why I say less. Harder is better than impossible, given things in the extreme.

Caravan Ray · Post by **Caravan Ray** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 6:52 am

Egg wrote: knobs

knobs...heh!

Eric Y. · Post by **Eric Y.** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 7:53 am

additionally, i think it should be called "governmental control"

Paco Del Stinko · Post by **Paco Del Stinko** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 8:31 am

Caravan Ray wrote: knobs...heh!

What's with the knobs this week? (see also: Kim Deal reviews)

fodroy · Post by **fodroy** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 1:10 pm

fodroy wrote:NO PARENTS! NO RULES! 8)

living on your own is pretty awesome. i just ate candy for breakfast.

...and yes, i just had breakfast at 3:50 in the afternoon, like i do every day.

Poor June · Post by **Poor June** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 1:55 pm

fodroy wrote:
fodroy wrote:NO PARENTS! NO RULES! 8)
living on your own is pretty awesome. i just ate candy for breakfast.

...and yes, i just had breakfast at 3:50 in the afternoon, like i do every day.

how old are you? 10?

fodroy · Post by **fodroy** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 3:38 pm

Poor June wrote:
fodroy wrote:
fodroy wrote:NO PARENTS! NO RULES! 8)
living on your own is pretty awesome. i just ate candy for breakfast.

...and yes, i just had breakfast at 3:50 in the afternoon, like i do every day.
how old are you? 10?

...and a half.

Poor June · Post by **Poor June** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 7:33 pm

fodroy wrote:
Poor June wrote:
fodroy wrote: living on your own is pretty awesome. i just ate candy for breakfast.

...and yes, i just had breakfast at 3:50 in the afternoon, like i do every day.
how old are you? 10?
...and a half.

uhm you in muncie, i lived in plainfield for a while

Denyer · Post by **Denyer** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 8:12 pm

Poor June's trying to pick up a ten and a half year old.

a bebop a rebop · Post by **a bebop a rebop** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 8:17 pm

for a lot more than just penis in vagina.

Denyer · Post by **Denyer** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 9:24 pm

That not having sex with people under 16 is Indiana's law. Poor June can come up with his own theories on that one.

fodroy · Post by **fodroy** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:47 am

Poor June wrote:uhm you in muncie, i lived in plainfield for a while

cool. i'm not sure that i've ever been there, but i'm familiar with the name.

Poor June · Post by **Poor June** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 9:48 pm

this is so redundant
but can't argue, tis the american way :::salutes:::
haha you're a trip

when i lived in plainfield
it had way too many cops
with absolutely nothing to do
everyother day i was getting hassled
for absolutely jack shit
(this is where i learned, that absolutely no one gives a shit)
a pretty good lesson to learn might i add haha

learning that, brings events such as this
to a hault, and no one becomes the wiser
but still it avoids a rediculuous fight of shit slinging
however much fun it is for us to fling poo
the american language wasn't written to explain all
it was written to control the masses with absolutely mindnumbingly rediculuous notions that so many of the same words
mean completely opposite things
random boring mindnumbing questions are asked
but absolutely nothing of any real substance
taboo it is to push a question
but if any real question is asked
it is merely brought down by those who merely will not give it any time to understand
i don't mean to knock deshead,
but there is a place in new jersey
called gravity hill
where things actually float up O_o
i know it's crazy, but this would support my things fall up theory

wether it be to a mass attempt to knock a grown mans theory, certainly most things fall down
but doesn't mean everything is meant to do such
it's merely a label, labels like anything else
are merely labels, and everything has the chance to prove us completely wrong
and if you do not open your eyes
you merely come off as monkey see, monkey do
and that's tough to watch...

(that's everyones own personal option i'm sure... but i guess it all depends on how serious you wanna get?)
however this is pointless... cause yet again
this isn't my place to say otherwise
believe as you may
i just wanted to give an idea

Bjam · Post by **Bjam** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:58 pm

Poor June wrote: but there is a place in new jersey
called gravity hill
where things actually float up O_o
i know it's crazy, but this would support my things fall up theory

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_hill

Optical illusion. Our eyes are rebelling against us.

Denyer · Post by **Denyer** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:16 am

Poor June wrote: when i lived in plainfield
it had way too many cops
with absolutely nothing to do
everyother day i was getting hassled
for absolutely jack shit
(this is where i learned, that absolutely no one gives a shit)
a pretty good lesson to learn might i add haha

fuck tha police
always gettin hassled for no reason
a young nigga got it bad cause i'm brown
officer from overseer
you need clarity?
check the similarity
woop woop
that's the sound of da police
this means we've become good little doggies

a bebop a rebop · Post by **a bebop a rebop** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:47 am

Poor June wrote: the american language wasn't written to explain all
it was written to control the masses

What?

(I'm not "slinging shit", I'm trying to figure out what the hell you're talking about.)

Eric Y. · Post by **Eric Y.** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:52 am

Bjam wrote:Optical illusion. Our eyes are rebelling against us.

optical illusions are just theories -- not facts

Denyer · Post by **Denyer** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:26 pm

tviyh wrote:
Bjam wrote:Optical illusion. Our eyes are rebelling against us.
optical illusions are just theories -- not facts

optical illusions being a theory is just a theory - not a fact

Poor June · Post by **Poor June** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:05 pm

tviyh wrote:
Bjam wrote:Optical illusion. Our eyes are rebelling against us.
optical illusions are just theories -- not facts

then why would we think everything we see, were true?
i'm not fighting gravity
i'm fighting a train of thought
most things are gimics
they placate the masses
it's like a giant rubber passy

and my explanations are just as stupid
as the questions asked

back a hundred years ago
people were willing to die for what they believed in...
all the sudden no one believes in anything
and wouldn't die for shit
the only thing we have left are ideas
these things we truely believe in
just cause we know no better
but even these things are creation
of an imperfect opinion
even truth is hidden in all things flawed
so i guess my point is

is why do we stop questioning?
popular opinion, isn't true opinion
we fought for control in world war 2
and every war since has been fighting for an idea of freedom
when in reality, it's always been for personal gain
to placate and control the masses

it would make sense if they used our own feelings
and emotions, against us, to bring us down
to the wipping boy status

they abolished slavory, only to send all the factories over seas
to have other slaves still do the work for close to nothing
while we can either work a corporate job
or get student loans we'll be paying back for years
just to get a job that doesn't completely suck ass
so technically we don't make 'more money'
cause we have to pay so much more just to get it

it's all an optical illusion
conspiracy so to say, sure it is
to think that it wasn't
would be completely ludicrous

i don't believe gravity is exactly what matters in this case

Post by **Spud** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:09 pm

There is no gravity. The earth sucks.

Poor June · Post by **Poor June** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:38 am

Spud wrote:There is no gravity. The earth sucks.

not a comment, i don't deserve

opinion is questionable, as is everything
i'd love to stay around and circle around trying to grab my tail
but that isn't gonna do anyone, no kinds of good

ammunition, it does the body damage

freedom is ignorance
atleast it is now
indians had it right
they were fucked over bad
merely cause no one understood
their concept of 'freedom'
wasn't a voters option
haha

democracy...
what a scam....

of course again i state personal opinion
for history states it differently, it were the christians
that thought they was a threat
so they killed 'em all

not some big government conspiracy
to own the land and do with it as they pleased
i'm sure of it

after everyone dies... who's gonna know the truth anyways
right? personal opinion is easily bought
you can see that in everyday life now
(telemarketing for heaven's sake, no one believes in the shit they are selling... still do it anyways)
words are cheap