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http://www.time.com/100albums

just read about this in the newspaper today...
Feel free to bash / praise all you want here:

Yes - when I think "Great Albums of the 21st Century" - I automatically think of Muddy Waters, Hank Williams, Elvis Presley and Sam Cooke too.

I hate albums and this makes me hate them more.

I hate lists and this makes me hate them even more.

How many fucking times have we seen this list? Every 100 greatest albums of all time is the fucking same and Michael Jackson fucking blows. Do people still not think that? And so do the Sex Pistols.

Since when are you allowed to put "The Essential [artist name here]" and such on a greatest albums list? Those are compilations, not albums.

Also...

Michael Jackson fucking blows. Do people still not think that? And so do the Sex Pistols.

WeaselSlayer wrote:How many fucking times have we seen this list? Every 100 greatest albums of all time is the fucking same and Michael Jackson fucking blows. Do people still not think that? And so do the Sex Pistols.

Man, am telling you; sometimes I think you might be my long lost brother.

Well I am adopted, so who knows!

I dunno ... I think they got Abbey Road right.

I have, or had 32 of those. My taste is 32% validated ( or would that be 68% invalidated)

It seems that my ability to recognize good albums started to decay about the time I started buying music at age 13.

Darkside of the moon, That live Cream album, SRVs first release, David lee Roth era Van Halen. I think they wanted to compile a list of influential rock(ish) music but ignore influential Guitar players.

Dumb

Since when does being a good guitar player make good music? Bah.

I hate people who comment on lists and commenting on people commenting on lists makes me hate them more.

Or should that be makes them hate me more?

It's all so troublesome.

I am defined by my opinion of other people's opinions.

No Manowar?

fodroy wrote:Since when does being a good guitar player make good music? Bah.

It doesn't, unless you're talking about the recording process itself. Having a competent guitar player vs. someone who plinks around on guitar record a track can mean the difference between something sounding professional and something sounding hacked together or being passed off as lo-fi.

Whoops, I forgot who I was speaking to.

Carry on.

I was mostly commenting on people mistaking Jimi Hendrix's chops for musical brilliance. Some people just take the guitar a little too seriously as an art form.

jute gyte wrote:No Manowar?

Dan-O from Five-O wrote:Carry on.

fodroy wrote:I was mostly commenting on people mistaking Jimi Hendrix's chops for musical brilliance. Some people just take the guitar a little too seriously as an art form.

I don't mean to derail the thread but...

Dude this is just so flat out wrong, I had to comment. Jimi's "chops" were a definitive part of his musical brilliance. Just as Picasso saw things in a different manner than everyone else, Jimi heard things differently than everyone else. He was a pioneer of almost every guitar sound used today. How much more brilliant could he be? Guitar amps now have a "Master Volume" so guitarists don't have to blow their eardrums out to get his sound. Effects that were created specifically for him are now being retro-created and developed even further. Jimi changed the way guitarists play, the sound they have available to them, and the way amps are constructed. Pretty brilliant if you ask me.

If you don't like his music, by all means, that's fine with me. But denying his obvious accomplishments? That's just silly and obtuse.

Also, saying "people just take the guitar a little too seriously as an art form" is akin to saying people just take music a little too seriously as an art form. If that's your opinion, just get out of playing music now because you obviously don't get it.

Damn Dan, I like you man. Don't make me call you out like this.

Apologize to the "Gods" of guitar rock and be absolved of you sins or forever be considered a Heretic in the eyes of this six stringer.

Dan-O from Five-O wrote:Just as Picasso saw things in a different manner than everyone else, ....

just because you paint stuff all crooked and square and put tits on a girl's neck or shoulder or whatever the hell, doesn't automatically make you a GOOD painter, just becuase you are the first or only person to have done so. (feel free to draw your own conclusion, then, about the analogy you are making).

[edit -- basically i guess what i am saying is, everything is subjective.]

I think they got David Bowie and the Beatles just about right. Everything else...I have little opinion about.

Lists of "the most influential" reek of popularity contests anyway. Steve Howe and Yes not influential? Even rock gods bow down to Steve Howe. Plus, he's really ugly. That's just icing.

May Blige? Kanye West?

I obviously live under rocks.

Dan-O from Five-O wrote:Apologize to the "Gods" of guitar rock and be absolved of you sins or forever be considered a Heretic in the eyes of this six stringer.

I apologize to no God of guitar rock. I was never converted by their disciples. I can understand what Hendrix did for the guitar, but I just don't get it. I hate to say it, but I don't get it. I like music with guitars, just not music where guitar is the main focus. Yngwie Malmsteen is a disgrace.

But then, I've also only played an electric guitar maybe twice in my life. I haven't truly experienced the power.

I spent a lot of time in high school listening to punk. I liked the brash simplicity. Then I mellowed out and really rockin' out music is just too much for me now. I'm tired all of the time. I think that has something to do with it.

I like you too, Dan-O. It just seems we fall at the opposite of most spectrums.

And Picasso kicks ass. That guy made an impact in not only art but literature too. Picasso's cubist ideas influenced Gertrude Stein who influenced a whole school of L-A-N-G-U-A-G-E poets (yes, that's how they spell it).

I'm gonna end this before I start talking about Jackson Pollack.

roymond wrote:Yes not influential?

The ability to make people vomit doesn't really count as being influential