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So, I'm playing bass in a band called The Funeral Dazies. I previously played with the guitar player of this band when he was in my band Ghost Town Gridlock. We're becoming pretty good friends and when he had asked me to come by and play with them...I did...and have ever since. (Basically because GTG pretty much stopped practicing anyways)

ANYWAYS... my point is that I'm moving on from GTG. HOWEVER, I don't want to abandon it completely. As to say I really REALLY liked what we were doing and I'm not exactly CRAZY about The Funeral Dazies. (If you do any research on it you'll probably realize WHY) I'm going to take GTG's myspace page and change it to Joblito and continue that sound. (also be looking for that here at songfight) Perhaps taking the energy I was putting into that band (that was always met with resistance) can be put into this SELF promotion. No girlfriend, steady job(s) and a need to exercise are going to both hinder AND free me to work on this. I plan on utilizing these things in promotion SOMEHOW. (exercise is good for image yes?...work... more free webspace? No girlfriend to suck time and energy.) (alternatively...Job(s) and exercise eat up alot of time)

Thanks for reading if you in fact did read all that crap... which leads to the Question of the Day:

<b>What do you think of re-inventing yourself/yourselves and have you done this before? How and what did you do? This question is multifaceted and is meant for a general discussion on the topic</b>

Umm, has never worked for me, even in moderation; I always wind up coming back to being the same ol' person. Good luck to you on it, though, I am told that it is possible...

Charles (KA)

I've never tried to reinvent myself. I'm different than I used to be. I just changed naturally and eventually, and I accepted the changes. I don't know how I changed. I guess I just feel different.

Interesting... brings up the subtext of "What do you consider your self-identity". Also makes me wonder what the first invention of yourself was, and where it went awry.

QOTD: Growing up, my parents moved to a different state every few years. This led to a sort of ambisocial attitude developing in yours truly, as one state's children's dominant faddittude is not/was not the same as as anothers, and I got tired of feeling like I needed to change regularly to make other people comfortable/accepting of me and later on scrap those changes to become something else, ad nauseam. So, what do I think about it? It's bullshit if done for the wrong reasons, and absolutely necessary for growth and progress if done for the right reasons. But only the person can decide for themself what the right and wrong reasons are.

ION, just got adopted by a cat last night. Cute little beast. And got a come-on from an extremely indie label. Anyone have any experience with Mabuhay Records?

Yes, as in the San Francisco punk club from the '70s. The 30 Years of Punk shows happening in The City Oct 31-Nov 2 look rather tasty. You readers out there might be interested in seeing John Shirley taking the stage with his band, Panther Moderns, on the 31st.

I feel like I have, but not sure it really changed me to any deep level.

#1 - went from music to comp sci. There isn't that much difference at a personal level. Maybe creative types see more "creativity" in things geeky, so the process and such isn't that different.

#2 - jumped off the cliff career wise (leaving one 10 year job for a competitor), but again that didn't change me so much as shook things up temporarily.

#3 - divorced and remarried - this was a big change. Went from my old "never want kids" to having two and loving it (them). Included some heavy shifts from being basically a self-centered over-achiever to a partner with pluralistic fatherly responsibilities (and a strong under tow of self-centered fantasy). So this is the closest to reinventing myself. And I credit my wife

fodroy wrote:I've never tried to reinvent myself. I'm different than I used to be. I just changed naturally and eventually, and I accepted the changes. I don't know how I changed. I guess I just feel different.

This fits me perfectly, so I'll just borrow it.

Everything I do here on SF is just an expression of what I'm feeling that week. BLT has always been a certain style because of how the music is performed by the band. But my solo stuff has been more of my experimenting with styles that have always been in me that I could never really do until I joined SF. Mainly because all the music is performed by me, so i do it just the way I want.

QOTD: Not reinvented, just changing naturally.

After reading ya'lls posts I realize that I'm not exactly re-inventing myself as I'm branding Joblito. Because I realize I will still be Hoblit and record 'Hoblit' stuff...but I think I'm branding Hoblit's Punk Rock to Joblito. I went down the punk rock path a little further than I had in the past and now I think that it is its own thing now. I believe that would be a better description of whats going on inside my tiny little brain.

Thank ya'll for engaging in this discussion though... ya'll are actually helping me understand it better.

I'm Hoblit but I'm branding Joblito the punk rocker. I'll just be focusing on Joblito a little harder for right now. Maybe I'm just afraid of getting old and this is me 'hanging on', I don't know... but at the very least I have to pat myself on the back for focusing on SOMETHING instead of being all over the place all of the time.

By branding, you mean segregating certain styles of music to different names even though they're all you? I have never felt like I needed to do that, just record everything solo under Heuristics Inc. However this naming thing works well for many people - look at Starfinger, or Jim T for example. Personally I like the freedom in the single name (excepting collaborations, which should have their own names).
-bill

HeuristicsInc wrote:By branding, you mean segregating certain styles of music to different names even though they're all you?
-bill

Thats just it... its not all styles...it's just the one. I kind of want it to be separate. Everything else is Hoblit. I just feel like its 'different' from the Hoblit label now. I couldn't break it down to several styles or else I'd completely lose track anyways!

I saw this earlier and forgot to come back to it. Until now. As far as self-reinvention goes, I'm doing it right now, but I'm on my first attempt. My game plan is at least three-pronged. The main goals are fat loss and general health, financial stability, and musicality. The thing is, all of it comes down to self-discipline. That's really all there is to being good at life. I think it's all going pretty well so far. But it's a work in progress. There's a lot to be gained on all fronts. So, uh, I'll let you know how it turns out, and hopefully, someone will still be curious then.

Here.

Never reinvented myself - closest thing would be sophomore year of high school, when I drifted away from my friends for a different group. Pretty conscious, yet subtle. Led to me, but I think it came from me, too.

Neil Young is great! and all of them are him.