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Making Music Videos

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 3:22 pm
by Billy's Little Trip
I'm trying to make one. I have experience with my Ulead studio 7 program. But only for home movies off my dig vid cam. Now I'm trying to get clips from a movie I D/Ld.
Any suggestions on saving pieces of the movie I D/Ld? My vid editing system is soooo slow and freezes my computer every clip I make.
I'm thinking it will better if I burn the vid to a DVD and get it off my HD. Is this the way to do it best? Any great programs out there?

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:51 am
by Billy's Little Trip
I thought I would bump this up by saying I figured out a pretty good way to save movie clips, but it is a slow process.

Next question. How much repetition in a music vid is too much?
For example, is it bad to repeat the same footage every time the chorus plays since the chorus is repeating itself? When a song is repeating the first verse after the bridge, is it ok to repeat the vid footage that was used in the first verse at the beginning?
I realize this is subjective, Im just wondering what the average brain excepts as ok I guess, because I want it to look like a real music vid, lol.
Any video pros? C-hack?

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 11:00 am
by roymond
I'd say think about music videos you think are successful and analyze them for these points and look at what else makes them work.sometimes the repetition doesn't seem so apparent if the subject is interesting, but sometimes it just comes off formulaic. I've wanted to make some but there's just no time.

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:10 pm
by Billy's Little Trip
Thanks Roy. Yeah, I've been pondering videos for sometime, but haven't had the time either. I have been thinking back to some of my favorite music vids and youtubing and they do sometimes repeat the footage when the song repeats, such as the chorus. I just want to hear what the average person thinks. I'm not sure if I'm trying to justify the repeat footage because it's common with music vids, or if it's because it's a lot of work and I'm lazy. I promised myself that the next album I put together will have a video to go with each song. I know that's a tall order, but I've become accustom to letting myself down. :P
I just think that it's cool when you get a music CD with video tracks on them. In fact, I prefer to buy Band DVDs these days because my cars have audio/video systems in them. Kind of cool to be rocking out and watching visuals to go with the song.

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:55 pm
by Rabid Garfunkel
Billy's Little Trip wrote:In fact, I prefer to buy Band DVDs these days because my cars have audio/video systems in them. Kind of cool to be rocking out and watching visuals to go with the song.
Ha! :lol:

To get why I'm laughing so hard right now, please refer to my entry for Bitter Orange. If you can stomach it, of course :wink:

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:15 pm
by Billy's Little Trip
HaHa, O.C.eeeEEEE, what a bitter bitter Orange you are to me. Yep, I like my tv screen in bedded my dash. :P Funny song and very relatable for any So Cali people. The therman(sp) thingy gives a cool effect.

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:33 am
by spinlock
I would be very interested to see what you come up with. I don't watch music tv, but among my favourite amature music videos are.
these

two
The second link includes the software they wrote to make their video :)

My favourite commercial video is All about the pentiums by Weird Al.

The rule seems to be, for my taste anyway: change the shot about every 6 seconds.

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:16 am
by Hoblit
<a href="http://www.breadboxstudios.net/misc/The ... Remain.wmv" target="resource window">The Funeral Dazies - Only Bones Remain</a> Internet Video.

I just don't have a good enough capture card for DVD making...although the uncompressed version does blow up pretty well... but still a little fuzzy.

I use Adobe Premier, Adobe Photoshop, and Sound Forge for video work. Never graduated to after effects or any of those. (and I have never bothered to get more plug-in effects or transitions...but I want to)

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:23 am
by Billy's Little Trip
Mine is coming along pretty good. I have it done front to back, but now I'm making notes as I watch it to go back and create FX and interest that doesn't look too hokey. My first reaction to everything seems to be "make it hokey", so it's hard for me to pull back, lol. The other tough part is keeping the vid matching the beat. I have to manipulate the footage in ever scene to make it look right. But inadvertently, it's actually making the scenes look way cooler.
I need to just put some finishing touches on it and be done with it. I'm getting way to into this thing and putting way too much time into something that will get watched one time and never seen again.
Plus the scenes are from a Tarantino movie, so youtube will probably remove it. Maybe I can convince Quentin that it's to help promote his movie and he will OK it.
....by the way, does anyone know where Quentin has a blog that he posts in? :P

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:28 am
by Hoblit
Billy's Little Trip wrote: My first reaction to everything seems to be "make it hokey",
Me too... because I'm always pretty sure it'll come off amateur...so I might as well at least try to be tongue & cheek about it.

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:55 am
by Billy's Little Trip
Well, just the fact that I'm using Tarantino movie clips makes it kind of funny to me. His horror FX make me laugh even though they're supposed to be bone chilling. I guess everyone looks at that stuff in a different way. But he is great at taking a gore scene and adding something completely hokey and artificial and making it even better, like the scenes in Hostel. When that guy had to clip off that girls eyeball that was "getting in the way" and hanging by a "single vain" and after he cut it off "greenish yellow goop" came oozing out. Now that is hokey perfection at it's finest.

Those vids up there gave me a few ideas. I should superimpose or ghost image (not sure what it's called) a close up of my fingers on the fret board on the intro guitar part and maybe on the re-intro after the bridge, over the scene. Hmmm, I even think I know how I can do that to.