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Heuristics Inc. Cipher Challenge

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:28 am
by HeuristicsInc
Some of you may have noticed the garble of letters in my sig. Some of you have gone so far as to solve the puzzles within. Just thought I'd mention it here so that others may try if they wish.
Basically there is a cipher, a message written with letter replacements. The early ones were simple cryptograms, and now they are becoming more challenging.

Here is one of the old ones:

art fexxcii rb fkc mwwicbf bwglnrpkfcx yxwhgo!

(this one is kind of silly)
-bill

Re: Heuristics Inc. Cipher Challenge

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:29 am
by HeuristicsInc
Here's a more challenging one:

ujlw ju b tkptqk qqocfrwpjlpfvq dksljx

-bill

Re: Heuristics Inc. Cipher Challenge

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:32 am
by HeuristicsInc
A couple of old ones that I just found:

azvv nctkco ckizjo ifni z jfncmoe pt uzm vzco?

and

nabmb zao hzvsewp zpj yzw hincatpw bhk!

-bill

Re: Heuristics Inc. Cipher Challenge

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 1:59 pm
by Reist
Is this part of some sick april fools joke, or am I just bad at puzzles?

Re: Heuristics Inc. Cipher Challenge

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:14 pm
by HeuristicsInc
Nope, not a joke. There are at least two others around here who have solved these (may be others, I don't recall).
-bill

Re: Heuristics Inc. Cipher Challenge

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 5:56 pm
by fluffy
I have to admit that I generally solved them with the help of software.

Re: Heuristics Inc. Cipher Challenge

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:19 pm
by Märk
HeuristicsInc wrote:Nope, not a joke. There are at least two others around here who have solved these (may be others, I don't recall).
-bill
Me being one. Your latest sig looks kind of intimidating, though.

Re: Heuristics Inc. Cipher Challenge

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:06 pm
by HeuristicsInc
Fluffy: well, sure. This new one might be challenging for the software, though :)

Mark: Yeah? Did I know that? Sorry if I forgot. As far as the new one, I've been reading this book on codes and ciphers and it gives me all sort of ideas...
-bill

Re: Heuristics Inc. Cipher Challenge

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:10 pm
by fluffy
Yeah, I'm kind of wondering what it could be, although my early ideas don't work out (since there are number pairs greater than 26).

Re: Heuristics Inc. Cipher Challenge

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:04 pm
by Spud
fluffy wrote:Yeah, I'm kind of wondering what it could be, although my early ideas don't work out (since there are number pairs greater than 26).
although, there are none less than 12.

Re: Heuristics Inc. Cipher Challenge

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:38 am
by jimtyrrell
And no zeroes at all. Still working on this one.

Re: Heuristics Inc. Cipher Challenge

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:30 pm
by anti-m
I had an idea for the current one... but it was not a good idea, evidently!

(I assume you've read the Stephenson book, yes?)

Re: Heuristics Inc. Cipher Challenge

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:38 pm
by HeuristicsInc
Yes! Last year. Great book.
But actually I have also read a good bit of actual history about cryptography. I am currently reading The Codebreakers: The Comprehensive History of Secret Communication from Ancient Times to the Internet (by David Kahn) - a fantastic read but not for the faint of heart (1200 pages or so). Also his book about the Enigma was great and a lot shorter.
Also, I just joined this organization: The American Cryptogram Association which is a hobbyist club dedicated to this sort of puzzles. Looks like they get way harder :)
-bill

Re: Heuristics Inc. Cipher Challenge

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:48 am
by jimtyrrell
I haven't forgotten about this.

A few peculiarities about the number sequence:

1) There are no zeroes.
2) Every other number (1, 3, 5...) is a 1, a 2, or a 3.

So my idea is to set up a letter chart in three columns and nine rows, which places the letters in coordinates. Then the number sequence can be broken up and read like this:

15 26 12 14 16 17 12 33 26 21 13 16 12 14 16 17 23 29 29 21 19 16 23 16 33 18 29 38 24 12 35 14 16 13 21 17 15 23 32 25 29 21

It's a nice enough idea, but I haven't found a letter placement that makes any sense. Still, I feel like I'm on to something.

Re: Heuristics Inc. Cipher Challenge

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:17 am
by HeuristicsInc
Doing well! Keep it up :)
-bill

Re: Heuristics Inc. Cipher Challenge

Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:32 am
by jimtyrrell
From this point, random letters could be assigned, and then it's basically a regular old cryptogram. Except for the fact that there's no word breaks. So there goes my shortcut. :)

Ooh, and some of the random assigned letters could actually be CORRECT, further muddying the soup. This puzzle is affecting my ability to construct decent metaphors.

Re: Heuristics Inc. Cipher Challenge

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:03 am
by jimtyrrell
Other notable things:

3) the sequence 12 14 16 17 occurs twice.

4) the only instance of a double letter* is 29 29.

*assuming the numeric value of a letter is constant.