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Scribbles and Whatnot

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:57 am
by EmbersOfAutumn
Hey, what does your 'creative process' look like? Sheets of music, lyrics and chords, etc. Just a look into the mind of the person writing the music--how they get to where they get to.

Embers of Autumn - God's Thumb - http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n243 ... tsheet.jpg

Embers of Autumn - Morning on Bourbon (Chorus) - http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n243 ... bsheet.jpg

Re: Sribbles and Whatnot

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:30 am
by The Weakest Suit
this is a pretty cool idea for a thread. i'll update later, when i get to a scanner and my 2007 notebook.

Re: Sribbles and Whatnot

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:35 am
by Billy's Little Trip
Most of what I do is in my head. I'm finding that this particular system isn't working very good anymore. My lyrics are always hand written with arrows going back and forth, scribbled out words and lines. Pretty messy. The only time I type the lyrics is when I add them to the archive.

Re: Sribbles and Whatnot

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:41 am
by EmbersOfAutumn
Billy's Little Trip wrote:Most of what I do is in my head. I'm finding that this particular system isn't working very good anymore. My lyrics are always hand written with arrows going back and forth, scribbled out words and lines. Pretty messy. The only time I type the lyrics is when I add them to the archive.
I'd like to see some of your hand written, arrow-directed examples.

That's kind of what this thread is about. My first example was typed because, if i did the lyrics before the music, they're typed out and the Chord Prog and/or tabs are added in by hand. If music comes first, it usually ends up like the second example.

Re: Sribbles and Whatnot

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:46 am
by Rabid Garfunkel
Ummm... there is a thread about this already, buried somewhere. In Help & How To? It's too early & I'm too damned lazy right now to dredge it up.

Re: Sribbles and Whatnot

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:07 pm
by rone rivendale
Pretty simple really.

1. I spend half an hour or so in Fuity Loops making a beat.

2. I write lyrics to fit the beat in notepad.

3. I open the beat in Goldwave and record the vocals and then mix those two together.

4. Submit to the Fightmaster.

5. Get 1 or 2 votes.

Re: Sribbles and Whatnot

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:35 pm
by Billy's Little Trip
Rone Rivendale wrote:Pretty simple really.

1. I spend half an hour or so in Fuity Loops making a beat.

2. I write lyrics to fit the beat in notepad.

3. I open the beat in Goldwave and record the vocals and then mix those two together.

4. Submit to the Fightmaster.

5. Get 1 or 2 votes.
You and your Momz? :P

Re: Sribbles and Whatnot

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:52 pm
by Reist
I never write down the chords, since it's too much effort. I should probably do that sometime though ... I might regret it later. The lyrics for just about every song I've ever written are in a single notebook, which is completely full now. I guess I'll just have to start anew.

Re: Sribbles and Whatnot

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:53 am
by Billy's Little Trip
By the way Embers, I'm assuming that the title of this thread, "Sribbles and Whatnot" was intended to be "Scribbles and Whatnot". :P

Re: Sribbles and Whatnot

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:19 am
by EmbersOfAutumn
heh... um.... sorry about that.

Yes... sCribbles and whatnot.

Re: Scribbles and Whatnot

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:21 am
by Spud
fixed

Re: Sribbles and Whatnot

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:02 pm
by Dan-O from Five-O
Billy's Little Trip wrote:
Rone Rivendale wrote:Pretty simple really.

1. I spend half an hour or so in Fuity Loops making a beat.

2. I write lyrics to fit the beat in notepad.

3. I open the beat in Goldwave and record the vocals and then mix those two together.

4. Submit to the Fightmaster.

5. Get 1 or 2 votes.
You and your Momz? :P
I believe it's his home and work votes actually. Even Momz has limits to her support of futility.

Check it out though, this week Rone decided to simplify things even further. He completely skipped step # 2, which cut step # 3 completely in half. Unfortunately, he decided to stick with step # 4 which means step # 5 will remain in play as he votes for himself from home and work........again.

Re: Sribbles and Whatnot

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:53 pm
by Billy's Little Trip
Dan-O from Five-O wrote:
Billy's Little Trip wrote:
Rone Rivendale wrote:Pretty simple really.

1. I spend half an hour or so in Fuity Loops making a beat.

2. I write lyrics to fit the beat in notepad.

3. I open the beat in Goldwave and record the vocals and then mix those two together.

4. Submit to the Fightmaster.

5. Get 1 or 2 votes.
You and your Momz? :P
I believe it's his home and work votes actually. Even Momz has limits to her support of futility.

Check it out though, this week Rone decided to simplify things even further. He completely skipped step # 2, which cut step # 3 completely in half. Unfortunately, he decided to stick with step # 4 which means step # 5 will remain in play as he votes for himself from home and work........again.
Come on now, Rone has a song covered by a very famous Canadian that is in a Hollywood production by a Canadian. I for one will stand up a cheer when I see it on the big screen. I be loven me some Rone. :wink:
...the dude has ballets about him and everything.

Re: Scribbles and Whatnot

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 4:46 pm
by rone rivendale
Thank you BLT.

Re: Scribbles and Whatnot

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:14 pm
by The Weakest Suit
yes

Re: Scribbles and Whatnot

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 10:14 am
by Spud
When I look back through my notes, I see a lot of this kind of thing:
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But there's a fair amount of this as well:
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(which eventually became this, btw: http://www.workshop3d.com/octo/scores/accelerator.pdf )
SPUD

Re: Scribbles and Whatnot

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:08 pm
by Caravan Ray
I usually write lyrics straight to the "Ye Olds Lyrics" thread - then edit them later if necessary.
When finished I print out and sing.

This is because my handwriting is atrocious and by posting them early - it gives me extra incentive to finish the song.

I never write down chords. But I only know about 3 of them - so that isn't a great problem

Re: Scribbles and Whatnot

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:00 pm
by Billy's Little Trip
Caravan Ray wrote:I never write down chords. But I only know about 3 of them - so that isn't a great problem
Hey, me too! Plus I don't know what number they izz called.

Re: Scribbles and Whatnot

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:02 pm
by Spud
1, 2, and 3.

Re: Scribbles and Whatnot

Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:53 pm
by Billy's Little Trip
Is the 3 letter one where'nz you put your pointy finger on the second fret on the string that's just under the big'n and ya hit it real hard? Yeah, that'nz my fave O rite!

Re: Scribbles and Whatnot

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:46 pm
by ujnhunter
usually i just have notepad.exe open and i type thusly!

04/29/08
4/4
120 BPM

Bass: E, G
Guit: no idea!

Lyrics... blah blah

Re: Scribbles and Whatnot

Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:48 pm
by king_arthur
Here's part of the lyric original for "Kick Start" -

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I create the drum parts in Band In a Box, and as part of that process, I wind up with a chord chart like this:

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(the chord chart is cropped, it is actually about twice that wide, and includes bars 3-4, etc.)

What's especially cool about the chord chart is that while the song is playing to record the drum part (I record on an external standalone recorder, not on the computer), the cursor follows the chords so it's really easy to lay down that first rhythm guitar and know that I've got all the chords where they go. I wouldn't necessarily need to plug in all the chords just to create the drum part, but I like listening to the guitar, keyboard, etc. parts while I'm working out the song structure, and then I just mute everything but the drums when I actually record the drum tracks tot he AW16.

Charles