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passaggio from chest voice to head voice
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:48 am
by PlainSongs
Anyone got tips on singing up and down the gap between chest and head voice?
I've been reading up on it and practicing:
- humming, 'lip-rolling', and ah-ing short scales up and down
- singing songs that bridge the (for me) problem zone
- concentrating on breathing from diaphragm, relaxing neck muscles etc.
I can roughly sing from the bass E on a guitar to the treble E, but the G to B in the middle give trouble. Voice breaks or falls away or yodels involuntarily; it seems to change in character when switching to head voice (as if a different person started singing); and I find it hard to keep my throat from constricting at these notes, even though I can sing high C to E/F in head voice pretty relaxed.
Do you guys have other tips, other than "practice and be patient" (which is a good one for sure)? Cheers -PS
Re: passaggio from chest voice to head voice
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:19 am
by Rabid Garfunkel
Practice talking/singing in fake accents (French for head, Russian/Portuguese for chest, maybe?). Not that I've tried this, but it sounds like the sort of physical mnemonic that might have a chance of working. For me, that is.
Re: passaggio from chest voice to head voice
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:38 am
by ken
Take a voice lesson or two and tell them you want to focus on this issue.
I suspect that point changes as your voice strengthens or weakens. I would practice those notes in both places and find which way things are least stressful on your voice.
Ken
Re: passaggio from chest voice to head voice
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:58 am
by jb
Well, it changes in that as your vocal strength increases you can sing higher without switching to falsetto. I believe the point where your voice naturally "wants" to flip is physiological and doesn't change much. At least, it hasn't for me.
I like to do sirens at various speeds, concentrating on feeling the flip occur and changing the musculature in my throat to smooth out the change. In my head, I liken it to smoothing out a bump when riding a bicycle-- kind of lifting up on the bike a bit to make my body act as a sort of shock absorber. If you can find some kind of visualization like that it may help.
JB
Re: passaggio from chest voice to head voice
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:05 am
by melvin
I find it helps both pitch and bridging the chest/head thing to picture each note you sing as moving further and further out in front of you INSTEAD of as moving up or down. This advice has helped me a lot.
EDIT: I think this works because when your mind thinks you're going up or down to a higher or lower note, it triggers certain unwanted physiological responses. This method tries to avoid those triggers.
Re: passaggio from chest voice to head voice
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:10 am
by Billy's Little Trip
I needed some audio to get a better idea of the two. Hello youtube. For those, like me, that don't know this stuff, here are some vids. For those that already know everything, make us a vid.
What is head vs chest voice
Head voice
I "think" this is a good example, but I'm no expert, lol.
Of course as usual, just click the vids to the right for all of the lessons in one minute chunks.

Re: passaggio from chest voice to head voice
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:48 am
by Sober
Transpose every song you play into E. Getting better at singing is for fags.
Re: passaggio from chest voice to head voice
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:50 am
by ujnhunter
yea what he said! i thought i was the only one with voices in my head...
Re: passaggio from chest voice to head voice
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:52 pm
by PlainSongs
Thanks for the ideas. The 'picture higher notes farther away' in particular rings true but I reckon it varies from person to person.
Sticking to the same ol' key was my old strategy, but you're screwed when you want to sing along in a jam or to the radio, and sometimes it forces you to play wicked chord positions rather than the smooth ones that would match a higher key.
YouTube indeed sports a bunch of vocal teachers, found the following helpful:
http://www.youtube.com/user/kieferton
http://www.youtube.com/user/francotenelli
http://www.youtube.com/user/EricArceneaux
Not tried yet:
http://www.youtube.com/user/Aaron08832
cheers -PS