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I'm hoping this will be udderly awesome.

I'm feeling creative for this weeks title.
We're going to write a pop hit sensation.
This is open to all. It will be at 113.17BPM.
I'll post an 16 count verse and a chorus rhythm/melody. Send me 16 count verse and chorus clips of what ever you play to fit my rhythm guitar. Other guitar players, feel free to work off my rhythm because I will probably pull my rhythm out in the final cut.

In 16 count clips at 113.17bpm, I need:
Lyrics
A drummer or drum loops
Guitar
Bass
Keys
Horns
Caravan Ray's finger
Any instruments (shakers, triangles, blocks, etc) NO TAMBOURINES!
Back up vox (after I do the lead main vox)
Background sounds
Background voice (ahhhs and oooz)
And of course, Cow Bell

I'll need your clips no later than 07/11/08 so that I have the weekend to create. I'll fill in any instruments that don't get filled.
So what are we waiting for, let's get moooving.

PM me or post the part you want here. Please send the clips to me via email at bornxmas@gmail.com with the subject titled, In The Valley
Thank you,
The Management

Ok, here are the clips to work off of:
Verse - 16 count, 113.17bpm A-D-A-E-A-D-E-C
Chorus - 32 count, 113.17bpm A-C-D-G-A-C-D-E-G
Bridge - 16 count, 113.17bpm A-G-F-E

I would hate to commit to a certain part... but I'd be willing to do something... tho I'd have to hear your parts first... to feel inspired...

I'll get started on something right now. I have most of the day kind of free until peeps start showing up at around 5:00pm.

Don't worry about committing to anything. I'll fill in where needed. Also, two or three of the same thing is cool too, I'll just use them in different parts of the song.

man! i remember how much i used to hate Missy Elliot, "beep beep who got the keys to the jeep?" ahhhhgg! hated it!

so i was going to try and record something for you BLT, but decided to be lazy and just play around with Acid and your loops. then found some acapella song from Missy, and after 3 hours of playing around with 2GB worth of loops..
i got this: probraly not what your where looking for, but BTL vs Missy Elliot ?

http://fvs.blaststream.com/testapp/shar ... lliot3.mp3

Ha, that sounds pretty cool, dre. Not quite what I had in mind because I want original vox for the title, etc, but still pretty cool, none the less. Did you do it all with loops, or was it a Missy E song that you just added the guitar to? We could use what you have so far and just pull the vox out.

So that was done with acid? I've never tried that program, but I hear people talk about it often.

I'd love to help! I can do a keyboard bit. Synth or something. I dunno! Post your thing and I'll see what comes to mind. Also maybe backing vocals if I get really inspired.

phetal wrote:I'd love to help! I can do a keyboard bit. Synth or something. I dunno! Post your thing and I'll see what comes to mind. Also maybe backing vocals if I get really inspired.

Cool. The rhythm guitar parts are at the bottom of my first post....up yahhh ^^^^

I can't promise anything, but if I have some spare time some day after work, I might throw a little something at this. Will you keep the original post updated as far as what you've gotten and what you still need?

Actually, just send whatever you want in 140bpm clips/loops to line up with the clips I posted. If all goes well, I should be able to piece together a cool song. So if you want to do something, go for it, because if I have multiples of the same thing, I'll just use them in different parts.

Also, I'm not opposed to the lyrics in 16/32 count clips by more than one person. As long as they are about this weeks title and entertaining.

I think that because the music will end up being a big wall of sounds, the lyrics should be packed with clever humor.

just to save some time... if i can do anything with this... can you just post your chords? i'm not very good at this...

ujnhunter wrote:just to save some time... if i can do anything with this... can you just post your chords? i'm not very good at this...

Ok, I posted them up yahhh ^^^^^

are you sure they are 140 bpm - they don't seem to match my 140 bpm

My 140 bpm is faster than your 140 bpm!

What are you guys getting? I set my click to 140bpm. I've had this same problem before.

I haven't looked that deeply into it yet, but as a general observation: 140bpm is slightly faster than 2bps; therefore one would expect a 16-beat phrase would be just slightly under 8 seconds long, while according to the player I used to hear them, they seem to be just slightly above 8 seconds.

Billy's Little Trip wrote:What are you guys getting? I set my click to 140bpm. I've had this same problem before.

I put your files into a garageband file set to 140bpm, and when I added a beat, it doesn't match at all.

According to GB - it seems to be slightly over 113 bpm (GB only does whole numbers)...(or maybe it's 226-ish bpm - I really don't understand the whole 'beats per bar' thing)

Doesn't matter to me - I will give you some vocals and maybe some sitar - so I won't need to do any looping or cut/pasting.

Does anyone know what might be going on here? Is it a Garageband thing?

Yeah, it's definitely closer to 113 than 140.

(Maybe BLT's computer is completely stoned from all the second hand smoke and it doesn't process as quickly as it's supposed to?)

hmmm. Lines up for me at around 116bpm, but I didn't check to see if the loop was perfectly matched.

SPUD

Caravan Ray wrote:According to GB - it seems to be slightly over 113 bpm (GB only does whole numbers)

Yep, your right. I just put in the beat calculator at 16 count and it's 113.17bpm.
WTF?
This drove Obs nuts once when we tried to collab.

Here is why I'm running into this issue to the best of my knowledge. I hate click tracks, so I use a basic drum track as a click. I loop a drum track, figure the speed I like, then use time stretch in Cubase to set the BPM. I'm obviously doing something wrong.

Anyway, I can change the samples BPMs if you guys need round numbers. But until I hear otherwise, they are 113.17 BPM and I changed them in the first post.

Sorry for my un-professionalism. I've always played by ear my whole life and music theory is like a second language to me that I'm not fluent with.

WTF?! NEVER am I doing this AGAIN! 113.17?!

hehe... j/k

I'll see what I can do tonight... maybe make some fish noises.

Yeah, it's important that fish noises line up on an in integer-based bpm.

Billy's Little Trip wrote: Yep, your right. I just put in the beat calculator at 16 count and it's 113.17bpm.
WTF?

What is a "beat calculator"? Is that part of the software you use? I've always wondered if there is an easy way to find the bpm for a piece of music - it is very fiddly with garageband. Is there software I can download?