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Welcome to Round Three!
(And thank you to Niveous, who remembered to post this to the master thread last night when I completely forgot.)

Title: Byron Bay
Non Optional Challenge: Must feature a guest who has never been in a Nur Ein song before.
Songs are Due on: Monday, May 11th @ 12:01 AM EDT
Send your MP3 to nurein.sidefight@gmail.com

NUR EIN!!!

I have been waiting literally years for this title. I'm a little cramped on time this week, but I think I can pull it off.

I was writing a song about Start Trek and then remembered it is the BOTANY Bay.

May the 4th Be With You!

Jon, could you give about 90 examples of the non optional challenge, please? I don't think anyone will understand what to do.

I'm pretty sure I scared off a few of the competitors last time.

Will À Tous Les Monsieurs have to find a new vocalist since two-time-Nur-Ein-champion Frankie Big Face has already been in a Nur Ein song before?

ken wrote:Will À Tous Les Monsieurs have to find a new vocalist since two-time-Nur-Ein-champion Frankie Big Face has already been in a Nur Ein song before?

Well, yes and no. The challenge specifies that there must be a guest, not necessarily that the guest must sing, and it doesn't mean that the usual singer (Frank) can't sing. So, à tous les monsieurs seems to be at a huge advantage because they can just get a student volunteer to play an instrument like they did for "Average Circus." (And I assume that's a student volunteer tooting that saxophone in their "Stolen Diary," too.)

That said... While doing the same thing you usually do may sometimes meet a challenge, the judges (or at least this judge) tend to me more impressed when you can meet the challenge in some notable way that comes across as something you wouldn't have normally done. It's very subjective, I know.

Generic wrote:

ken wrote:Will À Tous Les Monsieurs have to find a new vocalist since two-time-Nur-Ein-champion Frankie Big Face has already been in a Nur Ein song before?

Well, yes and no. The challenge specifies that there must be a guest, not necessarily that the guest must sing, and it doesn't mean that the usual singer (Frank) can't sing. So, à tous les monsieurs seems to be at a huge advantage because they can just get a student volunteer to play an instrument like they did for "Average Circus." (And I assume that's a student volunteer tooting that saxophone in their "Stolen Diary," too.)

That said... While doing the same thing you usually do may sometimes meet a challenge, the judges (or at least this judge) tend to me more impressed when you can meet the challenge in some notable way that comes across as something you wouldn't have normally done. It's very subjective, I know.

None of my students are volunteers. They have no choice.

Ken, thank you for using my full name when referring to me.

à tous les monsieurs is a mystery. Who knows what he/she/it will do next?! There are over 1800 students in that school and four or five adults. It will take no effort at all to find an unwilling participant.

Also, is it Byron Bay or Bryan Bay? (because the Songlander placeholder says the latter)

Can the Cavedwellers have Megalodon as a guest?
Can Ken have the Bravo Brothers as a guest?

I'm just kidding judges, no need to answer.

frankie big face wrote:Also, is it Byron Bay or Bryan Bay? (because the Songlander placeholder says the latter)

Byron Bay. (see also)

The Songlander site is updated and maintained by Manhattan Glutton, and I assume he typo'd it. Mike, whenever you get a few minutes, can you fix that?

I made the typo in Songlander. Sorry.

I stand corrected!
(And so does that typo.)

glennny wrote:Can the Cavedwellers have Megalodon as a guest?
Can Ken have the Bravo Brothers as a guest?

I'm just kidding judges, no need to answer.

I'm pretty sure that if the Tydon Docks were playing - they would try to use Caravan Ray as a guest. He has never done Nur Ein.

Caravan Ray,

Have you been to Byron Bay? If so, what's it like?

...and how's it pronounced, proper-like, BOY-rahn?

glennny wrote:Caravan Ray,

Have you been to Byron Bay? If so, what's it like?

I was there a week or so ago and had a very lovely time indeed. It was my mention of it to the other judges that seemed to raise the option of using it as a title. There were some other, very different non-optional challenges that were raised at the time relating to my trip - but it appears that they were (wisely) discarded.

Suffice to say - what goes in the Judges forum, stays in the Judges forum.

I suppose I can offer a few pieces of local colour to get you started:

- Byron Bay (a.k.a simply "Byron") is a coastal town in far northern NSW.
- Cape Byron is the easternmost point of mainland Australia.
- Lieutenant James Cook named Cape Byron after Naval officer John Byron, circumnavigator of the world and grandfather of the poet Lord Byron.
- It is surrounded by some of the most spectacular surf beaches on the planet.
- In the 60s and 70s - it became a centre of "counter-culture" and a mecca for surfer dudes and hippies.
- In the 80s, after the international success of "Crocodile Dundee" - Paul Hogan and some of his mates moved there. Then it became a mecca for millionaires who like to pretend to be surfer dudes and hippies.

Here are 2 differing contemporary opinions of how it is now:

• Byron is a viridescent, sub-tropical jewel in the continent's bellybutton.
• Byron is not just a ravishing physical environment, it is a state of mind. It occupies an affectionate place in the national psyche, in the Australian Dream, and rightly so, for it is a place which affords you the time and (microsocietal) permission to find out who you are, apart from what you do.
• Byron is one of the last bastions of the invididual, or as one local wit once put it: "the truth is out there - and so are we."
http://www.byron-bay.com/byrontimes/column3.html

or

Byron Bay is not relaxed; it's full of drunks, people overdosing in public toilets and stressed out hippie wanna-bes trying to find a rare parking spot in their four-wheel-drives. The waves are crowded, the shops are generic... and then there's the vomit and urine. There are plenty of beaches on the north coast of New South Wales that are just as pretty without the violence and the crowds.
http://www.news.com.au/travel/australia ... 6570722528


(I played at an open mic at Byron week before last to a crowd of mainly 'too-cool-for-school' Euro-backpacker types. Managed to win them over in 2 songs and got an encore and great reception. I was well pleased with myself - it was a challenging crowd. I didn't vomit. And saw very little urine. But the restaurant did badly overcook my tuna steak).

Rabid Garfunkel wrote:...and how's it pronounced, proper-like, BOY-rahn?

errrr.....like Myron? Lord Byron? BY-ren?

Find it hard to see how it could be mispronounced really...

I offer myself as a guest vocalist if you need it! I can write the inclusion or you can. Either or. Make sure you are ready to no longer be in Nur Ein X, though

-jd0

Caravan Ray wrote:

Rabid Garfunkel wrote:...and how's it pronounced, proper-like, BOY-rahn?

errrr.....like Myron? Lord Byron? BY-ren?

Find it hard to see how it could be mispronounced really...

I think that was a gentle jab at the Australian accent.