Singing

Sober · Post by **Sober** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:06 am

Sit in your car. Scream as loud as you can. Pay attention to every physio-mechanical action your body takes, from the big air intake to the shoulder bracing.

Go inside and do the same thing. This business about singing quiet and turning up your preamp is nonsense. Sing loud. No one ever got anything done singing quietly.

Billy's Little Trip · Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:15 am

Sober wrote:Sit in your car. Scream as loud as you can. Pay attention to every physio-mechanical action your body takes, from the big air intake to the shoulder bracing.

Go inside and do the same thing. This business about singing quiet and turning up your preamp is nonsense. Sing loud. No one ever got anything done singing quietly.

I'm sure this will get discredited, but I can't agree more. If you find the sweet spot in your car, you need to do the same in front of the mic. Just don't peak the amp. if you want the peak distortion, do it in the mix.

jeff robertson · Post by **jeff robertson** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 2:33 pm

I don't really have any advice for singing, since probably you don't wish to sound like me, but I can attest to the car thing. I have actually recorded vocals for song fights in my car with a laptop, because it was the only place I could find to scream loud enough.

Billy's Little Trip · Post by **Billy's Little Trip** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 2:46 pm

jeff robertson wrote:I have actually recorded vocals for song fights in my car with a laptop, because it was the only place I could find to scream loud enough.

Isn't it a shame that an arrrr-teeeest has to go in his car to create his/her artistic expression? cha!

Hoblit · Post by **Hoblit** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:01 pm

Billy's Little Trip wrote:
jeff robertson wrote:I have actually recorded vocals for song fights in my car with a laptop, because it was the only place I could find to scream loud enough.
Isn't it a shame that an arrrr-teeeest has to go in his car to create his/her artistic expression? cha!

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Sober is right though, sing... don't whisper...and whatever you do ... do not FAKE scream... I've heard shoulder cringing 'soft scream' entries in Songfight past and I freakin' hate THAT. It sounds like you are singing along with a song on the radio while simultaneously not trying to annoy everybody else in the room with you.

Billy's Little Trip · Post by **Billy's Little Trip** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:07 pm

I just wait to do my vox when everyone is gone. If they aren't gone, then I give them money to go to the movies, err something.

Tonamel · Post by **Tonamel** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:47 pm

Sober wrote:No one ever got anything done singing quietly.

Well, Iron and Wine, maybe.

Hoblit · Post by **Hoblit** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:17 am

Tonamel wrote:
Sober wrote:No one ever got anything done singing quietly.
Well, Iron and Wine, maybe.

You could pick apart that quoted statement all day long. That Elliot Smith do0d... a lot of early Paul Simon songs... yadda yadda... but I think his point is that you can't fake being loud... you won't get far without some real vocal effort.

Tonamel · Post by **Tonamel** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:21 pm

I know, I was joking.

Sober · Post by **Sober** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:54 pm

I stand behind the quote, in the literal interpretation.

Singing softly does not mean singing quietly. Paul Simon sings softly, sure, but he sings plenty loud for his lung capacity.

To go along with this idea, my buddy and I were talking about this the other day:

The greatest people in history have always been angry.

Music, politics, social liberty, literature, whatever. Maybe not religion (modern, at least), but they've all been angry about something.

Hoblit · Post by **Hoblit** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:01 pm

Sober wrote:I stand behind the quote, in the literal interpretation.

Singing softly does not mean singing quietly. Paul Simon sings softly, sure, but he sings plenty loud for his lung capacity.

To go along with this idea, my buddy and I were talking about this the other day:

The greatest people in history have always been angry.

Music, politics, social liberty, literature, whatever. Maybe not religion (modern, at least), but they've all been angry about something.

Yes, Ghandi and Mother Theresa embodied the very definition of angry.