Sacrilicious! (God Will Give You Blood To Drink reviews)

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Boltoph: I like the groove to this. I also like the chorus. Seems like grunge music a bit, but I like the clean part, too. If you change anything, there might be a few parts in the chorus that seem not to fit too well, but nothing I can put my finger on. I'm not entirely sure what the song is about, but it's still catchy. I admit, I had to look over the posted lyrics to find the relation to the title.

Butterskoskostage: Nice dance/house-like groove, but the vocoder starts to get old too soon. I could see this working really well with a mix between normal singing and the vocoder. I could see this working really well with some female vocals in the mix. Unfortunately, the song just seems to be a bit too long.

Electrocushin: This isn't really doing anything for me. It sets up a nice mood, but it just doesn't move. It seems like it should have another part maybe?

Feldspar: The lyrics draw up some nice imagery with me. Seems to be just the right length, too. Is that some vocal harmony at the beginning? Not sure. The song seems all right to me, not a total stand-out, but not bad either.

I have a lawnmower that will eat your soul: This doesn't sound too bad, but the mix/mastering is pretty bad. I really can't critique the lyrics as the vocals are too quiet.

Justio Von Awesome: This sets up an interesting mood, but it just doesn't go anywhere with it. I'm just not really digging it.

Kamakure: Ohh, church organ. I like the beginning, but the lyrics... well, umm, isn't the whole point of the Bible that God forgave mankind even for killing his only son? This would sound better with some better drum samples or real drums. Maybe even if another instrument came in later in the song. This, for some reason, reminds me of some of the later Roger Waters stuff.

Luke Henley... Naked: When I first listened to this, I wasn't sure if that was a drum or someone banging on the guitar. Now that I'm listening on better speakers, I think it is a drum. This sounds like it was recorded with one microphone in a room with everyone playing. I think there is some good stuff here, but the mix makes it difficult to make that out. I'd love to hear the lyrics better. I'm not sure what they mean, but I kind of like them. (If that makes any sense?) OK, I could do without the "freak-out" in the middle/end of the song. Somehow, this reminds me of early Pink Floyd... not sure why. The coughing could go, too. :)

Max the Cat: Maybe it's just all the talk of God, but this reminds me of Roger Water's "What God Wants." I don't know, but that is now stuck in my mind and clouding my judgement. I like your singing, though--it fits the song very well.

Neil Thrun and the Doom Fairies: Mad Cow Disease? It sounds like the vocals are clipping at some different points at the beginning. The lyrics are just really strange. That's all I have to say.

Sissy Savage: I'm digging the rhythm on this. The drums/guitar fit together really well. This gives me kind of a 60's flashback theme to it. I like the "uh-huh's." I don't like the answering machine parts--I think this would work better with some real lyrics, but that's just me. I kind of like the tune, though, it is catchy. Unfortunately, the ending vocals kind of annoy me.

Song Fight Orchestra: I like the idea behind this and that it is even in Latin, but the vocals aren't meshing. I think it would sound better if it sounded like a religious chant. (And then went into a good techno/house drum pattern like Enigma... Oh, I digress :) I can't critique the lyrics--I had Latin way too long ago and I never really paid attention.

Unicorn: I like the bluesy feel to this. The dirty growly vocals fit this style well. I kind of like this.


Some responses to a few comments on mine:
WeaselSlayer wrote:I think this song would benefit greatly from real drums.
Yeah, I wrote the song with the expectation of having real drums. The drummer for my band was very interested and wanted to do something "heavy" so I put this together. Unfortunately, he bailed on me at the last minute so I had to settle for having the synthesized drums.
It gets a little peppier I guess after that, and a little Stooges-y.
Yes, that was my intent, actually. I really went into some stereotypes here for the genre which probably brought the song down a bit, but made it a bit more fun to play.
EightLeggedOedipus wrote:--- Holy crap, are you autistic? ---
I haven't a clue what that comment means in relation to the song. While I am not a psychologist, my understanding of autism is an affliction with symptoms that include traits of being obsessive-compulsive and being socially inept, but being extraordinarily gifted in a specific area such as mathematics or music. I pretty much know you're not going to like any of my songs and I expected you to hate this one even before I did anything, so I'm not shocked.
j$ wrote:great music.
Thanks.

My intent was that "God Will Give You Blood to Drink" sounded like a heavy metal song. I generally don't play metal, but thought something along the lines of Pink Floyd's "The Nile Song" would sound pretty good for this song.
j$ wrote:When you don't drag out the syllables (as in the chorus) then it sounds much better than when you do. I have this problem too so please don't think I am having a dig.
Oh, I don't think you have a dig--I love your feedback as it gives me good, usable advice. I was actually thinking this song would've worked out a lot better (style-wise, at least) if the vocals didn't drag on and were more of a screamed vocal line. I just needed to think of that last week. :)
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Post by boltoph »

every song in this fight cracked me up. well, almost every song...

Unicorn i like that this has a bit more edge than some of the other basic acoustic tunes around. would like the vocal up front more and perhaps another performance on the instruments.
Songfight Orchestra this is some funny shiz. too bad you couldn't have a pro chamber choir on there. good vocal melody going on.
Sissy Savage like the opening groove. always like hearing a little voicemail in a song...but it's generic, i think you could've come up with a bettter voicemail to throw in there. theres a catch in this chord progression and the vocals tough to hear but there's something that could be good in there.
Neil Thrun and the Doom Fairies i respect that this is an improv. the lyrics are killing me. could be built into something larger. blood in the crotch!
Max the Cat enjoying the fingerpicking, everythings right on key, glad to hear that. the rhymes are so trivial, maybe it's just me cause i like obscure vocals but all this talk of swift swords and heaven / hell, infidels is kinda making me envision some strange things, but the folky bluegrass vibe is definitely well represented and lends itself to that sort of vocal.
Magnetbox this vocal could vary more at least for my ears. i'm wondering who the master is. perhaps a priest?
Luke Henley yeah i'm pretty psyched about the reckless abandon and there's a good chord change or two in there...naked, indeed. scream it. louder! here comes the honolulu troop in with the ukelele madness. I just wanna hear more going on, more chaos.
Kamakura he he i like the priest intro. gaadam this reminds me of early pink floyd. i like the movement of the vocals and the culmination of them to where the drums start. i'm wondering if you're serious with this, hoping you're not :)
Von Awesome the name is fucking hilarious!!! the song sounds like a little baby playing around with a high tech baby mobile for the first time. humour value up.
Lawnmower the artificial harmonics are rockin. but the rhythm guitar tones aren't nearly as heavy as they need to be for this, i could comment more on the production. i hear a good melody coming out in the vocals towards the middle but the rest of the vocals could use more movement or something.
Feldspar this i could really hear being played in a roman catholic mass perhaps even in the basement of the church for a childrens mass. tough to stomach without a shit eatin' grin.
Electrocushion that simple beat could start up into a song a lot earlier, but it actually never really turns into a song. theres sort of a bass line there, could build on that maybe.
Butterskoskostage i like the groove and the robot vocal cracks me up (so thats what a vocoder does, eh?), the melody is fitting for it but you repeat the title so many times and i'm not so into that. the fingersnap break would like to hear more of a build up somewhere. i like how it's catchy in a tv commercial sort of way.
I, Boltoph well now, i'm a LiTTLE PIS†öƒƒ here, eh? gets me pumped. ya I hear all yer comments, thanks for 'em. should be shorter, cut out the whole last verse part entirely and end tight. sorry bout all the f-bombs...couldn't help it. you see, in this, i refer to my loathing of adolescent church ceremony. and findin the eyes wanderin. wondering what the nuns and priests might really be up to... :o
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Post by MaxMinimally »

My first Song Fight review!

Boltoph – Motorhead, but wait… I’m calm now? If the production was better, I’d dig it. Being what it is, I still dig it. The drums needed to be more pronounced. Pretty good.

The Butterskoskostage – Some no name techno dude meets KMFDM meets Daft Punk and then they laugh together and snap their fingers in an empty silo as the dusk turn to dawn, kissing gently. The blood may have turned me off, but, this would have gotten me to church more often. I liked it.

Electrocushin – For a first entry, it still sucks. That hard part is over… and the song is too! Yea!

Feldspar – I wish I had more to say about this, or anything for that matter. Don’t take that as meaning I hated it, it just didn’t stand out for me. The immortality fruit smoothie bit made me smile.

Justio – I’m really glad I wasn’t on acid, or anything else come to think of it, for this one.

Kamakura – Sorry dudes… I’m taking from the collection plate for that one.

Lawn Mower – This defiantly has some potential for me, but in its current state, I can only concentrate on how it *could* sound. You might want to dump your drummer, unless all he had to beat on was an Animal Drum Set made my Mattel for the Muppets line of toy instruments. Hell, if that is the case, bring it more to the front. I’ll be trying to figure out the bit in the center of the song for quite some time. Stop watching Spinal Tapp. At the same time, I’d love to see the stage production that goes along with it.

Luke Henley – Maybe you should return the Muppets drum set. I have a lawn you could beat on.

Magnetbox – Wow, the wah really wahs. Wah wah wah, waaaahh. Whoa… the end of that almost sounds like a Framptone…

Max The Cat – I like the tune overall. I would have enjoyed a stronger electric guitar with less distortion. Hell, maybe a harmonica. The acoustic work was nice. A stronger ending would have been with the acoustic guitar. I liked it.

Neil and the Fairies – The minute mark recaptured my attention… The real cruelty of a crucifix is that both hands are tied/nailed so you couldn’t even crank one off if you so desired.

Sissy Savage – How did you get God’s number?

Song Fight Orchestra – This is why I didn’t get to church more often.

Unicorn – I liked the guitar. If you were a street musician, I stop and listen to a song, then ask for directions. I’ll give it a “maybe”.


1. The Butterskoskostage
2. Max the Cat
3. I have a lawnmower that will east your soul
Electrocushin - Not to be used as a floatation device
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Post by Eric Y. »

j$ wrote:SFO - I like the latin (latin right? Do they mean anything? I did latin a-level but I can't remember any of it.)
yes, it's latin. and yes it does mean something. if you saw a direct english translation, it would be highly disappointing, because the actual words are fairly pedestrian and dull, but there actually is some thought and meaning hidden behind them. for what it's worth, the final line roughly translates to 'god will give you blood to drink'.
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Post by boltoph »

I still got butter's robot melody in my head!
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He is a street musician, but he probably dosn't know the way.

There aint no other vocal options, 'lifestyle' saw to that, and I had to kick him ou of my room after a few days, so no more recording time. Three turds? Nope just one, guitar & vocals one take into a mic, bass over that. I think some of you over estimate how much kit some of us have!
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Re: My mate unicorn

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13hugh wrote:Three turds? Nope just one...
(Re: Unicorn)
What does this mean???? You should've given him more time to make the vocals just a bit louder and possibly do another take on the guitar. Take over his room and the rest of the place while he takes over yours. Put down a tarp and break out the olive oil![/b]
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Post by j$ »

It's a slightly frustrated response to an earlier review, I believe.

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Post by boltoph »

ah yes, thanks J$.
13hugh wrote:I think some of you over estimate how much kit some of us have!
It ain't about the kit or the gear. We're not sound engineers (well not all of us at least) or professional producers. We're songwriters, right?
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Electrocushin why'd you have to go and ruin that cool groove with those lousy frikkin' vocals? Jeeez. Boooo.[/b]
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Post by Leaf »

Ok... I haven't finished full reviews of this fight yet, but Boltoph... that song is rad rad rad rad rad rad.



And then some more.

I've listened to it tons...reminds me of Rollins.... with some more modern elements, also some Suicidal Tendencies in there, some chili peppers... some... WICKED!!

I can not see how any other tune will get my vote, or wind up in my favourites, but I'll give them all a chance I suppose...

I love it.
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Re: My mate unicorn, anyway beer is in my head...

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boltoph wrote:
13hugh wrote:Three turds? Nope just one...
(Re: Unicorn)
What does this mean???? You should've given him more time to make the vocals just a bit louder and possibly do another take on the guitar. Take over his room and the rest of the place while he takes over yours. Put down a tarp and break out the olive oil![/b]
Three turds round a mic, somone wrote, yeh if he was still in this town he could have had more time, but appart from the two other songs he recorded, and the fact that I have no reason/money to go to Winchester.... Tarp and olive oil?! This is just disturbing, I'm glad none of my friends read this forum, I have a reputation to uphoald ;-)
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Post by boltoph »

rock! wish i could've had real drums on my song but had about 9 or 10 different cycles on this alesis sr16 machine. recording was fun once the drum prog was done. worked on the guitar amp mic placement for a while. vocals are still a little rough in places and theres always things i'd like to redo differently but, aw hell
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Post by Verbatim »

boltoph - the song sounds really good. you have a nice voice, just wish i could hear you a little more clearly. this went on just a little long for me.

butterskoskostage, the - negative points for your name dude. i'm not a fan of the robot voice. sorry.

electrocushin - your voice is somewhere between turning me on and creepy, no wait it's just creepy. ... yea still creepy.

feldspar - you had me bobbing my head. great lyrics. i like this. nice. :)

justio von awesome - this is kinda hurting my head. sorry :(

kamakura - i like the intro. very cool. nice lyrics, nice use of title.

luke henley - you never fail to disappoint, thanks once again. but i'm uppity, remember, so what do i know.

magnetbox - a fellow pittsburgher, cool. voice is a little mono for me but i like the lyrics i could make out, and the background music.

max the cat - very cool. i'm digging your voice and lyrics a lot. really nice song; nice guitar work also. :)

neil thrun and the doom fairies - this seems to try to be funny. maybe i'm missing something. but i am tired, sorry. i'm sure you just offended somebody, kudos on that.

sissy savage - wow the vocals are really low. like the answering machine message -- cute.

song fight orchestra - i first heard this upon being awakened at 4:17 am monday morning (eric is so cute when he's excited). i think he did a nice job with this; it will be interesting to see how next week's entry ties into this one.

unicorn - you have an interesting voice, pretty background music. song's not bad, good job. nice job if this is your first entry, looking forward to hearing more from you.
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Post by Eric Y. »

boltoph - musically this is pretty awesome. the vocals don't come in early enough, and when they do i can barely hear them over the sound of me typing this review. the singing sounds great, you just need to boost it a bit more. i really like what i'm hearing overall.

butterskoskostage, the - left the room as soon as the "vocals" came in, so i don't have much to review. sorry.

electrocushin - too much electro, not enough cushin. also: i really hope you're trying to be funny with the whispered vocals, because i don't imagine anybody having any other reaction.

feldspar - nice guitar-playing, though sounds like there's some "happy accidents" here and there, but it's a pretty decent song altogether. the lyrics are pretty decent -- and they're actually audible in this song, unlike the others we've heard thus far.

justio von awesome - more like justio NOT awesome.

kamakura - i like your lyrics a bunch, and the singing is especially well-done. i think it would have benefitted from leaving off the intro. also: i'd recommend a smidge of reverb on the organ, because it sounds a bit too clean against the vocals. i like it.

luke henley - i'm all about experimenting with songwriting. i think i read somewhere that you tried recording the vocals and guitars in different keys? sounds like an interesting idea. unfortunately, the experiment didn't seem to go so well. but at least you had the guts to try it. (oh and i didn't really like the drums very much, and i really didn't like the howling at the end very much.)

magnetbox - man, it's frightening how much you sound like the guitarist from my former band. well, the guitar-playing is slightly better than i remember, but the singing and etc are remarkably eerily similar. and he lives in the pittsburgh area too. how about that.

max the cat - a bit more minor-key than the typical MtC fare. i was hurriedly trying to catch up writing about the previous song so i missed out on most of your lyrics i'm afraid, which is usually the highlight of your songs. but the guitar part and singing sounded really good. like i said, tonally a bit different than i'd normally expect but different is good.

neil thrun and the doom fairies - neil you sound more and more like marcus kellis every time i hear you. take it as you will.

sissy savage - the intro isn't too long, but it is too long for being as repetitive as it is. um and the lyrics are far repetitive-er. and how. i think we got the point about seventeen iterations ago. the answering machine OGM could be a funny concept maybe but "i will not bring your cat back to life" is really a let-down as punchlines go. topped only by "really really busy."

song fight orchestra - can't understand a single word you're saying. too short. pretty stupid, actually. i like the organ part but it's too repetitive at the end. and that's quite a feat for such a short song.

unicorn - hey the singing here is at minimum halfway decent. i didn't really pay attention to the lyrics, but that's not unusual for me. sounded like a pretty okay song.

ok so that's it. there was some pretty awful stuff here (my opinion my opinion, don't whine at me if you disagree), but some okay stuff too. i guess i'll be voting for boltoph because despite the barely-audible vocals, i think i liked that song the best.
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Post by WeaselSlayer »

I guess lawnmower wasn't up when I reviewed. So here you go buddy:
This is rad. I mean, it's pretty much the Butthole Surfers' "Dust Mite," but it's a loving and capable recreation of it. Good job.
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Post by Eric Y. »

oh i guess i missed it too.

i have a lawnmower that will eat your soul - starts out sounding kinda judas priest, with the guitar riffs and such. then the vocals come in and all i have to do is just ding a dang dong my dang a long ling long. way too long, should have ended at 2:00.
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tviyh wrote:magnetbox - man, it's frightening how much you sound like the guitarist from my former band. well, the guitar-playing is slightly better than i remember, but the singing and etc are remarkably eerily similar. and he lives in the pittsburgh area too. how about that.
Hmm, how about that?
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the joy of sadness

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i probably should have apologized in advance for the vocoder. Having absolutely no vocal talent our options are....eh...more than limited? Anyways, thanks for the feedback from everyone, much appreciated. I'd do reviews but i don't really feel like i have room to talk.
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everyone has room to talk. offer your opinions, based on whatever you base them on. it will be appreciated.
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Re: the joy of sadness

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The Butterskoskostage wrote:i probably should have apologized in advance for the vocoder. Having absolutely no vocal talent our options are....eh...more than limited? Anyways, thanks for the feedback from everyone, much appreciated. I'd do reviews but i don't really feel like i have room to talk.
You shouldn't say that, just because a few of us didn't like the song doesn't mean someone out there doesn't just love it :) Think on the bright side, besides have you heard everyone's voice here? I am not saying everyone is great here at songfight because a lot of them are but some of them aren't the point is be yourself if you were happy with the outcome then :) thats what matters not our opinions.
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Post by erik »

I'll agree that your own opinion is the most important one with regards to your own music. But hell, everyone likes their own music in a vacuum. What's really important (and telling) is if you still like your music after getting negative feedback on it. Were you happy with the song, and then changed your mind after hearing what others thought? Or were you kind of not happy with it in the first place, and were hoping that other people would like it and assuage your fears? "Apologizing in advance" is always a sign that someone isn't confident in their own work, and that always seems to taint any comments people have about the song (some people are nicer when someone is self-deprecating and some tend to be meaner, but it's kind of hard to look past). Just make songs that you think are awesome, let people listen to them, and learn to ignore their opinions (unless you've realized that they are smart and their opinion is valuable).
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