Song Fight! Comp CD

blue · Post by **blue** » Sat Sep 25, 2004 10:25 pm

So duplication with color on-CD printing and a decent li'l insert is about $2 a CD. Divided up a little, that means we could make some songfight comps for a low per-band cost, and then give em away or sell them at shows. So I made a web page where you can put money in a kitty and when we get enough money, we'll make the first Songfight Comp CD.

The page explains the process, more or less. If someone only wants 5 CDs I can make another option for a $15 entry.

I need someone to do the art and stuff for it. Well, I don't NEED someone to do it, but no one wants ME to do it, I promise you that.

The basic idea is that you remix your favorite of your songfight entries (no non-songfight songs) and get them as good as you can get them, then send me an original. I will put em all together and master the CD, then send it off to be duped. The lovely and talented SFCOMP, Inc. fulfillment center will then take the bulk CDs, repack em, and send them out to you.

Here is the webpage:

http://www.songhole.org/sfcomp.html

Please no whining.

j$ · Post by j$ » Sun Sep 26, 2004 3:26 am

Sweet idea, Blue. Can I just confirm that once people get their CDs, they can do whatever they like with them - give them away, sell them on, make coffe mats out of them? If so, I won't be doing it myself because I'm not into money being made out of my music, but it's a really good idea.

J$

blue · Post by **blue** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 12:43 pm

yes, you can do anything you want to with the CDs when you get them, including selling them for millions and millions of dollars.

Poor June · Post by **Poor June** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 5:41 pm

i'd be up for this... but i am dead broke... :-\... and i owe a good 400+ of money that i don't have... so i'll remain broke for quite sometime

Phil. Redmon. · Post by **Phil. Redmon.** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 8:11 pm

That's hot.

I'm raising my hand as "someone who would be into doing art for this thing."

Now, what song to use.......

(dot dot dot.)

JonPorobil · Post by **JonPorobil** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 8:30 pm

When you ship the CD, will it be USPS or a parcel service? This is important because I have a college residence PO Box, and a room. USPS doesn't deliver to the room, parcel services don't deliver to the PO Box. Otherwise, I'm in.

blue · Post by **blue** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 8:43 pm

USPS media rate unless someone wants to pay for some other shipping method

I think Spud wants to do at least the first one for art and layout, so we have a good base to build from.

JonPorobil · Post by **JonPorobil** » Sun Sep 26, 2004 8:48 pm

PS you gots a typo in the title bar of that web page.

jimtyrrell · Post by **jimtyrrell** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 5:21 am

Oh, this is badass. I'm definitely in.
People at my solo shows are starting to bug me about a CD, so anyone who gets on board can at least expect to be heard by strangers in the sticks.

j$ · Post by j$ » Mon Sep 27, 2004 5:37 am

I am vascillating about this - i do want to do it, but what song, and when I get it together to paypal is another thing... is it a first-come first-served, when I've got enough people, I'll create a CD thing? Can I register interest with caassshhhh to follow?

It occured to me that a) I'm not making any money and b) if someone does, they can donate any j$ share of 'profit' to songfight or something.

J$

starfinger · Post by **starfinger** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 6:42 am

yay!

-craig

blue · Post by **blue** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 9:30 am

j$ wrote:Can I register interest with caassshhhh to follow?

i'm sure most people are interested, but the people who pay the money are those who get to be involved.

j$ wrote: It occured to me that a) I'm not making any money and b) if someone does, they can donate any j$ share of 'profit' to songfight or something.

you can make as much money as you want, but don't expect any profit sharing, largely because don't expect anyone else to make any profit either.

c hack · Post by **c hack** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 9:33 am

Sounds cool; I'm in.

I'm also up for doing art/design for this thing if you want.

Anyone have any recommendations as to which song(s) I should include?

blue · Post by **blue** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 9:42 am

the web site is updated with the people who are actually signed up. 6 slots left!

please note that altho i said i'd send it off as soon as i got the money, this is filling up a little faster than i expected so we may spend some time waiting on art and layout.

also, feel free to remix or re-record your song! make it as good as you can make it!

j$ · Post by j$ » Mon Sep 27, 2004 10:08 am

blue wrote:i'm sure most people are interested, but the people who pay the money are those who get to be involved.

For sure. Just because I'm not a big fan of money and music being bed fellows doesn't mean I don't respect 'put your money where your mouth is' I guess what I meant to ask/implied was once the cd is full, will there be another following right on? Or is this a once-only deal?

blue wrote:[you can make as much money as you want, but don't expect any profit sharing, largely because don't expect anyone else to make any profit either.

See above. I was asking from a wanting the answer to be no point of view. In justifying my possible sign-up I wanted to make that stipulation - if anyone sells the cd and wants to give back to the artists, give my share to a charity.

All that said, I won't have any money in my account until the end of the week, when all the slots will doubtless be consumed anyway.

So keep on keeping on ...

jimtyrrell · Post by **jimtyrrell** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 10:17 am

Money and songs sent.

01. Between The Rain
02. Silent Pipe

HOWEVER, I see we have the opportunity to re-record. I hadn't thought that would be permitted, but it would be to my benefit to do so. If there's time, I'd like to revisit these songs and provide cleaner versions.

c hack · Post by **c hack** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 10:24 am

j$ wrote: All that said, I won't have any money in my account until the end of the week, when all the slots will doubtless be consumed anyway.

Paypal lets you charge a credit card for back-up funds. Which is what I had to do, to the tune of $0.78.

blue · Post by **blue** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 11:18 am

whether i do it again or not depends on how much of a pain in my ass it is, how well it turns out, and how jb and spud feel about it when the time comes around.

but i don't have any kind of patent on sending songs to musician's friend. anyone can do this.

Kamakura · Post by **Kamakura** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 12:25 pm

An Excellent idea, though I have a few questions, if you'd be so kind.
Is the CD going to be a real (aiff) CD?
What's the postage to UK roughly?
How long do we have to remix?
What Bit rate should master mp3's be at, and what is an unmastered wav?

Cheers

blue · Post by **blue** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 12:32 pm

Kamakura wrote:An Excellent idea, though I have a few questions, if you'd be so kind.
Is the CD going to be a real (aiff) CD?
What's the postage to UK roughly?
How long do we have to remix?
What Bit rate should master mp3's be at, and what is an unmastered wav?

Cheers

follow the link given on the project page. it is a "real" CD. CD audio isn't aiff, tho.
what's your postal code?
a week? i dunno. do it now.
whatever sounds best. the highest ABR you can get if you must use mp3. an unmastered wav is your mix without normalizing or bus compression/maximization.

HeuristicsInc · Post by **HeuristicsInc** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 12:52 pm

blue wrote:CD audio isn't aiff, tho.

I think it can be, actually, if I remember right you used AIFF on a mac when you burn CDs. The CD audio isn't technically WAV either, as you only write the raw data to the disk after dumping the header info. AIFF I believe is the same, with different header stuff which is also dumped.
But I could be wrong.
-bill

Kamakura · Post by **Kamakura** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 3:04 pm

You're right Bill. Aiff is the mac fomat, though I thought it was universal (audio interchange file format).

I've sent the dosh.

Song Fight! Comp CD

Song Fight! Comp CD

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