jack shite wrote:i think you need to keep in mind that what's "best" for a 19 year old is probably not going to be what's best for a 40-something guy. we come from different generations. why even argue the point. it's stupid. it's all just opinions.
No DUDE. These are all facts. FACTS. And if you can't handle that, you just better move along buddy.
Freakin 40 year olds, don't know what's best for them.
The Flinstones.
I'd like to consider this as a sitcom, since we're throwing in the Simpsons and such. Don't tell me that show didn't occupy some afternoons.
While we're at it... I guess Sesame Street isn't a sitcom, but it certainly deserves some props for teaching me how to connect "b" and "us".
And now the secret's out on why my on-line spelling and grammar are so stellar....
Jim, i've often seen you expressing disquietude at the reactions some of your discussion points raise. Well, if you can't tell the huge huge difference between 'I disagree' and 'You're wrong' then perhaps you're a little too defensive to be starting up discussions such as these.
I hate being mis-quoted/ inaccurately represented.
Just a heads-up
And seeing as I am now a Respected Member of the Community, I am obviously, always right. Tsk, what's a curmudgeonly old misanthrope like me to do?
Generic wrote:. Could you articulate it without bringing historical importance into it, or is it simple preference at that point?
...dude you amaze me at times. Seriously... to me, you are twisted. This is the TV forum.... TV!!!
...I love it.
I didn't think I'd wind up making so many posts of the TV section. But I didn't expect it to be so intellectual. Is it just me, or are we a bit tantrum-prone lately? Sheesh.
While I'm thinking about it, Jack, I'm not nineteen, dorkface. Not for another two weeks, anyway.
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Generic wrote:Is it just me, or are we a bit tantrum-prone lately? Sheesh:
Hey Jon, do you think the number of times you end up making this post, or variations on it, might suggest something that needs considering in your own overall style? Probably not, unfortunately ...
[EDIT: No, in fact, rather than being a little twat about it, perhaps I should explain a little more thoroughly. I make that post, or a variation on it every time I see the variation on "Just because I disagree with you doesn't mean one of us is right." And it wouldn't be so annoying if it weren't the same people making the revalation that... Wow! We can disagree without hating each other! But first arguing for a few posts about who's wronger than whom.
I'm sure that won't satisfy you, but that's how I see it, at least.]
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for me (and by default my list), the top 5 really needs to be monumental, groundbreaking. taking chances. and maybe most importantly, spawning a bunch of really bad copycat shows.
more than anything, the common denominator for me is absolutely brilliant writing, which often reflects society at the time, but also transcends the period to the point where the show doesn't become "dated". the humor transcends the time. and usually, the writing and humor is full of things we see in ourselves and our lives. it's real, even if it might be a cartoon where the characters never age a day.
Generic wrote:. Could you articulate it without bringing historical importance into it, or is it simple preference at that point?
...dude you amaze me at times. Seriously... to me, you are twisted. This is the TV forum.... TV!!!
...I love it.
I didn't think I'd wind up making so many posts of the TV section. But I didn't expect it to be so intellectual. Is it just me, or are we a bit tantrum-prone lately? Sheesh.
While I'm thinking about it, Jack, I'm not nineteen, dorkface. Not for another two weeks, anyway.
uh... like I said....
"tantrum-prone" segueing into "dorkface".... yep. You're twisted.
jack shite wrote:for me (and by default my list), the top 5 really needs to be monumental, groundbreaking. taking chances. and maybe most importantly, spawning a bunch of really bad copycat shows.
You put The Andy Griffith Show on your list. Don't you actually mean Mayberry RFD? TAGS was really a weaker spinoff of the original show. I agree MRFD should be way up there. But do you think that one was groundbreaking or historically important, or was it just good?
jack shite wrote:for me (and by default my list), the top 5 really needs to be monumental, groundbreaking. taking chances. and maybe most importantly, spawning a bunch of really bad copycat shows.
You put The Andy Griffith Show on your list. Don't you actually mean Mayberry RFD? TAGS was really a weaker spinoff of the original show. I agree MRFD should be way up there. But do you think that one was groundbreaking or historically important, or was it just good?
i think you have it backwards. mayberry RFD was the color versions that were not that good. the black and white andy griffith shows were the best.
jack shite wrote:for me (and by default my list), the top 5 really needs to be monumental, groundbreaking. taking chances. and maybe most importantly, spawning a bunch of really bad copycat shows.
more than anything, the common denominator for me is absolutely brilliant writing, which often reflects society at the time, but also transcends the period to the point where the show doesn't become "dated". the humor transcends the time. and usually, the writing and humor is full of things we see in ourselves and our lives. it's real, even if it might be a cartoon where the characters never age a day.
and i hate the king of queens.
General agreement - but for me the major criteria for making the top 5 list is repeated watchability.
I plan to pack a emergency pack of DVD's of my Top 5 ready for the day when I may be shipwrecked alone on a desert island with only a coconut powered television to amuse myself (and no, I wont be adding Gilligan's Island to the list)
jack shite wrote:for me (and by default my list), the top 5 really needs to be monumental, groundbreaking. taking chances. and maybe most importantly, spawning a bunch of really bad copycat shows.
You put The Andy Griffith Show on your list. Don't you actually mean Mayberry RFD? TAGS was really a weaker spinoff of the original show. I agree MRFD should be way up there. But do you think that one was groundbreaking or historically important, or was it just good?
i think you have it backwards. mayberry RFD was the color versions that were not that good. the black and white andy griffith shows were the best.
Jim of Seattle wrote:
You put The Andy Griffith Show on your list. Don't you actually mean Mayberry RFD? TAGS was really a weaker spinoff of the original show. I agree MRFD should be way up there. But do you think that one was groundbreaking or historically important, or was it just good?
i think you have it backwards. mayberry RFD was the color versions that were not that good. the black and white andy griffith shows were the best.
Oh, you're right. I had it backwards.
and as far as TAGS being monumental or groundbreaking, that might be a stretch, but it remains a personal favorite. growing up in the south, the show showed good common sense (dare i say it?) family values, while remaining extremely funny and original.
hell, the main character was a sheriff who didn't carry a gun but always came out on top by being resourceful and patient. something to be said for that.
