Best of lists are....

jack · Post by **jack** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:26 pm

just curious and looking for a mandate

Leaf · Post by **Leaf** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:40 pm

Eric Y. · Post by **Eric Y.** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 9:16 pm

a man date?

WeaselSlayer · Post by **WeaselSlayer** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 9:38 pm

I love making lists, hate reading them. I am a hypocrite.

fodroy · Post by **fodroy** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 9:47 pm

They can be helpful when getting into an area that you're not familiar with. How about a list of great songfight songs? Of course, you could just read the boards and see who everyone likes, but for a brand newbie it would help as a starting point for the archives.

WeaselSlayer · Post by **WeaselSlayer** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 9:50 pm

Plus it wouldn't be a very long list. HEY-OH!

jack · Post by **jack** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:39 pm

jack in some other thread wrote:My 12 favorite songfight tunes of all time

subject to change of course

j$ · Post by j$ » Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:28 am

Hey where's the 'All Of The Above' option?

sausage boy · Post by **sausage boy** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 4:25 am

I'll have to see a list of the best Best Of lists before I can make a decision.

Niveous · Post by **Niveous** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:01 pm

I like Best of Lists as a way of expressing my opinion. Like in 2004, I did a best of songfight list for the year. It was a fun thing to do and I was able to say which songs that year were my faves.

But I can also see how they can be annoying at times, because it's all opinion based and it's bound to lead to differences of opinion. Take for instance Hit Paraders list of the top 100 Metal singers of all time that they just released. I think it's abhorrent:

The Hit Parader Top 100 Heavy Metal Singers:

01. Robert Plant
02. Rob Halford
03. Steven Tyler
04. Chris Cornell
05. Bon Scott
06. Freddie Mercury
07. Bruce Dickinson
08. Ozzy Osbourne
09. Paul Rodgers
10. Ronnie James Dio
11. Axl Rose
12. Sammy Hagar
13. Geddy Lee
14. Geoff Tate
15. Mick Jagger
16. Jonathan Davis
17. Roger Daltrey
18. Paul Stanley
19. David Lee Roth
20. Kurt Cobain
21. Maynard James Keenan
22. Klaus Meine
23. Eddie Vedder
24. James Hetfield
25. Trent Reznor
26. Serj Tankian
27. Layne Staley
28. Steve Perry
29. Gene Simmons
30. Joe Elliott
31. Jon Bon Jovi
32. Alice Cooper
33. Vince Neil
34. Steve Marriott
35. Lajon Witherspoon
36. Sebastian Bach
37. Philip Anselmo
38. Zack De La Rocha
39. Brian Johnson
40. Bret Michaels
41. Udo Dirkschneider
42. David Draiman
43. Ian Gillian
44. Marilyn Manson
45. Jeff Keith
46. Chester Bennington
47. Sully Erna
48. Lemmy Kilmister
49. Aaron Lewis
50. Brett Scallions
51. Chino Moreno
52. Rob Zombie
53. Anthony Kiedis
54. David Coverdale
55. Gary Cherone
56. Andrew Wood
57. Scott Weiland
58. Tom Araya
59. Phil Lynnot
60. Rod Stewart
61. Scooter Ward
62. Ray Davies
63. Sonny Sandoval
64. David Bowie
65. Joan Jett
66. Josey Scott
67. Perry Farrell
68. Scott Stapp
69. Amy Lee
70. Don Dokken
71. Fred Durst
72. Mike Shinoda
73. Pepper Keenan
74. Dez Fafara
75. Gavin Rossdale
76. Blackie Lawless
77. Dave Wyndorf
78. Ann Wilson
79. Jimi Hendrix
80. Ville Valo
81. Peter Steele
82. Dave Williams
83. Dee Snider
84. Joe Lynn Turner
85. King Diamond
86. Corey Taylor
87. Jamey Jasta
88. Justin Hawkins
89. Dave Mustaine
90. Ian Astbury
91. Stephen Pearcy
92. Phil Mogg
93. Biff Byford
94. Cristina Scabbia
95. Dani Filth
96. Wes Scantlin
97. Tim "Ripper" Owens
98. Joshua Todd
99. Kevin Dubrow
100. Ray Gillen

But that's the nature of best of lists. It's one or more people's opinions. And there are bound to be people who disagree. They have their merit.

jimtyrrell · Post by **jimtyrrell** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:13 pm

That's a pretty ludicrous list, and I think it's due to their loose interpretation of Heavy Metal. I mean - Hendrix? Bowie? STEVE PERRY? If they change the list to Hard Rock/Heavy Metal, then it becomes much easier to swallow, though still not perfect.

j$ · Post by j$ » Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:11 pm

Hell, yeah, 100 to fill? Bowie will do! But I love that - nothing wrong with other people's opinions. If you're not willing to accept that other people might just think differently from you, how you ever gonna discover something entirely new, that will change your way of thinking?

[/Lester Bangs-esuqe Faux-Righteousness]

jute gyte · Post by **jute gyte** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:37 pm

FRED DURST BEAT OUT KING DIAMOND WHAT THE FUCK

j$ · Post by j$ » Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:39 pm

Damn you to hell, even with yr irony.

jute gyte · Post by **jute gyte** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:40 pm

If it helps, I changed my post to an unironic one before even seeing your response.

jack · Post by **jack** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:03 pm

Niveous wrote:
The Hit Parader Top 100 Heavy Metal Singers:

60. Rod Stewart
65. Joan Jett
78. Ann Wilson
89. Dave Mustaine

poor mustaine gets no respect

HeuristicsInc · Post by **HeuristicsInc** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:27 am

Niveous wrote:Like in 2004, I did a best of songfight list for the year. It was a fun thing to do and I was able to say which songs that year were my faves.

Which, by the way, was pretty darn cool and also obviously a crapload of work. Does that webpage still exist? It was fun to read. Niv had "interviewed" the fighters about their songs.
-bill

Niveous · Post by **Niveous** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:27 am

HeuristicsInc wrote:
Niveous wrote:Like in 2004, I did a best of songfight list for the year. It was a fun thing to do and I was able to say which songs that year were my faves.
Which, by the way, was pretty darn cool and also obviously a crapload of work. Does that webpage still exist? It was fun to read. Niv had "interviewed" the fighters about their songs.
-bill

http://www.geocities.com/exploderninetyeight/SF200.htm

WeaselSlayer · Post by **WeaselSlayer** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:52 am

Wow. That's really quite cool. Makes everyone sound famous!

Niveous · Post by **Niveous** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:56 am

Maybe if sanity prevails, I'll do a one for 2006. This was a very good year in SF musically.

jimtyrrell · Post by **jimtyrrell** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:57 am

Yeah Niv, I just re-read your 04 list. Thanks for putting that together, it's a great piece of history.

Niveous · Post by **Niveous** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:00 am

hey, I'll do another one. Why not? It's much easier to get the interviews now (thanks myspace) and I've got a shiny new mp3 player.