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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:18 am
by Hoblit
fluffy wrote:fodroy wrote:my qotd: have i become a troll?
i don't do anything with songfight anymore. i just read the boards and occasionally respond.
Eh, you're not the only one.
Yeah, but I'd never let that happen to me. NEVER I tell you.
<font size="1"><i>My biggest problem/excuse is I work further away from the house than I have since I've been a Songfighter. 25 minute drive one way and I work 9-6 M-F. After I exercise, shower and eat dinner it's already 8:30pm. I have to get in songfighting and life (which includes TV, house cleaning, reading, internet stuff, phone calls, friends etc...) in those last three hours of my day. I also practice and gig with a band. So...uh, thank god I don't have a girlfriend right? </i></font>
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 8:19 am
by HeuristicsInc
Or a wife, Hoblit, haha, see how many Songfights I enter solo these days. It's all collabs!
-bill
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 10:22 am
by Rabid Garfunkel
fluffy wrote:Spud wrote:fluffy wrote:I knew what you meant, but I was giving you a hard time. ±8 means exactly either -8 or 8. ~8 means around 8. I am, as always, a huge math nerd.
I actually don't drink a lot of coffee. Maybe 2-3 cups per week. I go through phases.
Well, that depends on the context now, doesn't it. In architectural dimensioning, ± is a reference to a tolerance. If you say ±1/4", you mean it can be up to a quarter inch off in either direction. It doesn't HAVE to be.
It still requires an amount to be off from though. Just saying ±8 cups means you can be off by as much as 8 cups. Well, from how many?
This is giving me a chuckle, thanks.

Let's call it X, and for mathematical goofiness, say X is 9 (there's always at least one cup a day). Better?

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:07 pm
by Spud
Rabid Garfunkel wrote:fluffy wrote:Spud wrote:
Well, that depends on the context now, doesn't it. In architectural dimensioning, ± is a reference to a tolerance. If you say ±1/4", you mean it can be up to a quarter inch off in either direction. It doesn't HAVE to be.
It still requires an amount to be off from though. Just saying ±8 cups means you can be off by as much as 8 cups. Well, from how many?
This is giving me a chuckle, thanks.

Let's call it X, and for mathematical goofiness, say X is 9 (there's always at least one cup a day). Better?

So then, 9 ±8 cups? That's anywhere from 1 to 17. I suspect you meant something more like 8 ±2, which would be from 6 to 10, probably closer to reality.
For my money, you could have better stated this by putting the ± AFTER the 8 instead of before, and leaving the 2 implied, i.e. 8±. Tag, you're it, fluffy.
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:25 pm
by fluffy
Or if it's 1-10 cups then it's more like 5.5±4.5, although if you really want to do this right you should state it in terms of mean and standard deviations from it (for example, a mean of 8 and a standard deviation of 2 means that 67% of the time you drink 6-10 cups, 80% of the time you drink 4-12 cups, etc.). In order to refine this you should keep a detailed log so we can do a moving statistical analysis.
In any case that is still a hell of a lot of coffee.
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:40 pm
by Hoblit
I was told there would be no math.
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:59 pm
by Mostess
Spud wrote:
For my money, you could have better stated this by putting the ± AFTER the 8 instead of before, and leaving the 2 implied, i.e. 8±. Tag, you're it, fluffy.
Is that your .02$, um, $.02, er...?