Guitar talk.

Sober · Post by **Sober** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 7:34 pm

I was in Mississippi these past few days, the (late) home of one of the Peavey manufacturing facilities. As much as I've always had an aversion to anything with the word 'Peavey' written on it, I took the trip as an opportunity to do some pawn shop searching.

My guitar teacher buddy told me to watch out for a T-60. It's the first guitar Peavey made, also the first guitar made by a machine. It's solid ash, and weighs about a ton.

Isn't it hideous?

The very first shop I walked into, I could see it hanging on the wall from 100 ft. away. It's got some minor problems, but it's had some work done it as well (frets, nut, some rewiring). I paid $140 out the door w/soft case w/broken zipper.

It's a good 25 years old, and it feels like it was played every day of it. I'll take pictures of it as soon as it's presentable/I get another camera.

I'm going to do some drastic experimenting with my Squier (it'd make Abecedarian blush), and if that goes well, I'll do the same to the T60.

roymond · Post by **roymond** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:16 pm

I like your spirit!

I had a red Gibson SG that I plucked the frets out of above the 5th, and filled with that wood filler stuff. So you could do chords down below, then there was this cool fretless neck to be all Snakefinger with. Then I mounted a mini jack in the pick guard for the handheld pickup my brother and I made, and wired the chord jack for stereo, which went to a break-out box to split the humbucker signal from the hand pickup. It was both freakish and trend-setting. The freakishness outlasted the trend. Then it was lost during a move whilst in storage. I still have the handheld pickup and vow to use it again. But I think the days of fretless guitar, while joyous and undoubtedly never to be matched, are quite over.

Post by **Spud** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:19 pm

The fretless bass, on the other hand, lives on.

bz£ · Post by **bz£** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:51 pm

The Sober Irishman wrote:As much as I've always had an aversion to anything with the word 'Peavey' written on it ...

gear snob!

Hoblit · Post by **Hoblit** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 9:19 pm

bzl wrote:
The Sober Irishman wrote:As much as I've always had an aversion to anything with the word 'Peavey' written on it ...
gear snob!

Yeah, some of the best practice amps for beginners are Peavey. I've even played a sweet Peavey guitar once. It had a nice tinny country tone. No, that wasn't a joke.

Sober · Post by **Sober** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 11:16 pm

There's nothing wrong with Peavey amps - Lynyrd Skynyrd played Peavey amps, and SRV played through a Peavey cab.

Now - Peavey does make some sweet guitars. Generations, Firenzas, Milestones, and Wolfgangs are all nice. But, because J.H. Peavey huffs gas, the company is foundering and the guitars don't hold their value. I mean, a 10-year old Mexican Fender is worth more than an American Peavey of the same age. That's just silly.

And bzl - this is THE thread for snobbery.

Caravan Ray · Post by **Caravan Ray** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 3:04 am

The Sober Irishman wrote:
And bzl - this is THE thread for snobbery.

Oh good.

I have always been of the impression that the finest acoustic guitars in the world are the Australian-made Matons. For 20 year I dreamed of owing a Maton and would take any chance I got to fiddle with them in guitar shops.

About 18 months ago I found myself with a lazy 2 grand in my pocket (roughly halve that for $USD) and thought - "I'm gonna buy me a decent guitar - I'm getting a Maton!"

So I went shopping - and as good as the Matons are - I picked up a Martin out of curiosity, and fell in love.

So, you Seppo's can do something right. I will never play another guitar unless it's a Martin. Matons are still fine guitars, and probably the most popular amongst 'serious' guitarists down here - but when I see one now I feel a surge of superiority - my Martin shits on them.

Mogosagatai · Post by **Mogosagatai** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 3:36 am

I love picking up foreign slang on the SF messageboards. Apparently I'm a septic tank! Rock.

Freddielove · Post by **Freddielove** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 5:37 am

http://www.gonomad.com/transports/0307/ ... picks.html

And its about caravans. Apparently these are big in Oz.

bz£ · Post by **bz£** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 6:18 am

Caravan Ray wrote:So I went shopping - and as good as the Matons are - I picked up a Martin out of curiosity, and fell in love.

Am I the only one that thinks these two brands are suspiciously homonymic? My accent isn't that bad, is it?

Caravan Ray · Post by **Caravan Ray** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 6:23 am

Freddielove wrote:http://www.gonomad.com/transports/0307/ ... picks.html

And its about caravans. Apparently these are big in Oz.

Am I the only one who thought that "Gonomad" was going to be something about testicles?

Me$$iah · Post by **Me$$iah** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 5:31 pm

sorry to bring the thread back on target,
but that guitar looks like a peach

"isnt she hideous" no way thats a looker that is

i love that shape tho i gotsta get me one like it or a LesPaul Jr ..OMG

im off now to have impure thoughts with my colleetion of guitar mags

Tonamel · Post by **Tonamel** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 6:42 pm

bzl wrote:Am I the only one that thinks these two brands are suspiciously homonymic?

When I read this, I thought "Well, only if you're from Boston." Then I looked at your location...

So yeah, I guess your accent IS that bad.

(They do sound similar, though.)

Freddielove · Post by **Freddielove** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 4:35 pm

Ok more signal less noise.

I have been playing a Gretsch Electromatic for the last few years.

I always thought it would be cool to have a Gretsch so when they rolled out a starter model I picked one up. It's been a good instrument though the fit an finish could be better, tone knobs falling off and what not.

Playing it through a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe which rules. May be the least expensive tube amp you can buy and it has a sweet sound. I'm looking forward to getting it on a recording.

Sober · Post by **Sober** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 1:53 am

As soon as my sister sells me her camera (mine was stolen), I'll show you guys what the new studio looks like thus far.

Turns out my T60 has had a bit of work done to it. Shiny jumbo frets shine where original mediums may have been, and a stainless steel nut has been put on it. It appears there was at one point a Bigsby tremolo system on it, which was later removed. One of the more puzzling alterations is that they moved the input jack from the side of the body (like a Les Paul) to the face (like an SG). Why? I don't know. But the hole is still there.

It's going to get a thorough setup tomorrow by a Peavey whiz (free of charge

) , so hopefully he'll be able to shed some more light on it.

Side note: Jim Dunlop Jazz III standard and nylon picks (black and red, respectively) are the best picks ever made.

Caravan Ray · Post by **Caravan Ray** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 3:01 am

The Sober Irishman wrote:
Side note: Jim Dunlop Jazz III standard and nylon picks (black and red, respectively) are the best picks ever made.

I'm a Jim Dunlop grey .73mm man myself - and I must say, the way they sell them in the little cardboard fold-over matchbook style packs of 10 is perhaps one of the greatest inventions known to man.

thehipcola · Post by **thehipcola** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 7:27 am

Without question. Brilliant packaging that has utility. .73 is my pick of choice as well.

Caravan Ray · Post by **Caravan Ray** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 8:36 am

The only way Mr Dunlop could improve his picks is if they had some sort of in-built GPS tracking device so I didn't always loose the little bastards.

Leaf · Post by **Leaf** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 11:49 am

The Sober Irishman wrote: Side note: Jim Dunlop Jazz III standard and nylon picks (black and red, respectively) are the best picks ever made.

I use these all the time. The XL series... I used the little tiny ones for a while...but my big clumsy oaf fingers didn't jell with them... great pick.

Sober · Post by **Sober** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 11:52 am

Agreed.

I usually bring home a pack of picks every day from work, so it's not so much of a problem anymore. I keep them all in my little utility lamp - the base of it's got little compartments for pens and whatnot. The utility lamp is a necessity as far as I'm concerned.

The other pick to use is the Big Stubby 3.0 - it's the thickest non-custom pick you can buy. It's insane. That's what I used for all the fast picking stuff on my Prep School.

But yeah, I like the Jazz III because it's got a really sharp point, and it doesn't dull down like Fender picks do. I originally liked the sharp point for getting in between mandolin strings, but I find I can be really precise on guitar with them, too.

bz£ · Post by **bz£** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:20 pm

The Sober Irishman wrote:But yeah, I like the Jazz III because it's got a really sharp point, and it doesn't dull down like Fender picks do.

They're better after they've dulled down a bit, think of 'em as "vintage." Smoothly clipped like a sweet old tube amp.

New toy arrived today! Got it way below retail cost, too.

Everyone should own a Phantom guitar, because they are endorsed by BATLORD and nobody in their right mind would disagree with that chap. (Just because he wishes you were dead, doesn't mean he doesn't love you.)

Dan-O from Five-O · Post by **Dan-O from Five-O** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 1:24 pm

Caravan Ray wrote:
The Sober Irishman wrote:
Side note: Jim Dunlop Jazz III standard and nylon picks (black and red, respectively) are the best picks ever made.
I'm a Jim Dunlop grey .73mm man myself - and I must say, the way they sell them in the little cardboard fold-over matchbook style packs of 10 is perhaps one of the greatest inventions known to man.

I can't use anything less than the black 1.0 mm string breaker for playing my electrics. Everything else just feels to flimsy. I do use the .73 mm for strumming accoustic though.

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